RedDarkArmor

[Rollcage]

any news on this please? been waiting for a change to its stats for ages, its bloody useless atm

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what happened to "i read every post on forum" ???

 

[HarryH]

I don't think he spends his sunday evenings staring at the live feed..

Expect a reply in 3 hours?

 

[Babyhack]

any news on this please? been waiting for a change to its stats for ages, its bloody useless atm

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what happened to "i read every post on forum" ???

Have a look at the bottom of te thread and you will see that I have seen your post,

3 hours on a Sunday evening. Sorry for not spending my Sunday sitting at a PC waiting on your post and sorry for not replying to you within seconds.

I did not post because there is no news. It's on the list to look at, it's not super important and is not anywhere near the top of the list so we will get the it wen we do.

BH

 

[Rollcage]

you've been saying that for a couple months, its high on MY list lol, got an armor that u keep making less and less useful.
atm its not even as good as crafted lvl 40 armor

and as for spending ur sunday evening on pc, i assumed u just browsed forum every now n then, no ones suggesting that u should do otherwise so keep ur wisecracks to urself homeslice

 

[Unseen0202]

you've been saying that for a couple months, its high on MY list lol, got an armor that u keep making less and less useful.
atm its not even as good as crafted lvl 40 armor

and as for spending ur sunday evening on pc, i assumed u just browsed forum every now n then, no ones suggesting that u should do otherwise so keep ur wisecracks to urself homeslice

Lol at home slice

 

[Mystickiller]

I'm still trying to figure out what seems to be wrong with it? +MP for a wiz sure why not. It could give no mp would you still complain? Sins and archers cant even use OKR or HA, none are complaining. Archer and sin dark arm still not ingame (who knows if its drops or if it even exists???). I don't see anything wrong with it. It's class locked and that's the stats it was on euro and official. Wizzys are already op enough with shield.

 

[Rollcage]

I'm still trying to figure out what seems to be wrong with it? +MP for a wiz sure why not. It could give no mp would you still complain? Sins and archers cant even use OKR or HA, none are complaining. Archer and sin dark arm still not ingame (who knows if its drops or if it even exists???). I don't see anything wrong with it. It's class locked and that's the stats it was on euro and official. Wizzys are already op enough with shield.

why not? ill tell u why, ive already got 1k mp at lvl 44 what possible use is there for another 230?
no ones complaining that archer/sin cant use okr? hmm...wrong. take a look around forum a bit ull see the posts, hell, u can look on posts not even related to it and ull see moans about it.

people HAVE complained about there not being any dark armors for sins/archers ingame
and why would u see anything wrong with, its not like u have eyes is it? -.-
the point is dark armors offer special stats in terms of the wearers survivability (HP in every other class's case), red armor offers NOTHING, and yeeees its the same stats it had on euro...where the armors wernt class locked... and protection rings were availavble to make the extra mp useful.
like ive said before, the armor is so useless the korean server doesnt even have it anymore, they changed it to a 230 HP armor instead, cos its pointless as it is, and im moaning cos as far as i know its rare as rocking horse **** but completely useless as far as armors go.

so...kindly stop trolling me hombre, do u even play?

 

[KylerStern]

Another suggestion would be to give +mp another use.
Along the lines of every 25mp over max gives +1mc (while mp pool is above the max aswell) once consumed mc bonus is gone until replenished again.

 

[Phawk]

This is, and should be, way way way down the list. There is so much more that's more important. IF, a lot of users had dark armour, and they were all working for all classes, and this was crippling wizards then sure. As it stands at the moment, dark armours are more of a luxury item that some classes don't even have yet. SO asking for 1 to be 'refined' before other classes even get there isn't going to be very high priority.

/Mark

 

[Paloma]

Wizards
Spoiled rotten always have been. More hissy fits then a diva convention

 

[Rollcage]

This is, and should be, way way way down the list. There is so much more that's more important. IF, a lot of users had dark armour, and they were all working for all classes, and this was crippling wizards then sure. As it stands at the moment, dark armours are more of a luxury item that some classes don't even have yet. SO asking for 1 to be 'refined' before other classes even get there isn't going to be very high priority.

/Mark

i would agree if this wasnt a less than 10 min activity..why post nonsense? Who leaves 100 5 min fixes till after they have done a 1 week fix?

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Wizards
Spoiled rotten always have been. More hissy fits then a diva convention

spoiled rotten? clueless turd, be quiet.

 

[Samuel]

The problem BH will have with this one is convincing me .

I am still not convinced why wizards (which are completely OP from 44 on wards) should benefit from a HP increase.

Sam

 

[Rollcage]

completely OP? are u high? they are on almost even ground with everyone else (they only excell at mass-damage more than others)

so why should wiz get a hp boost on armors that are exclusive for giving hp boosts? how about cos everyone else does. gonna leave wiz with a dark armor that isnt worth the space it takes up in the drop files?what is difficult to understand here..?its not my opinion that +mp is pointless...its a FACT

why you dont wanna change it is behond me, are wiz here sooo much more powerful than they are on any official server when compared to other classes..no

 

[Phawk]

completely OP? are u high? they are on almost even ground with everyone else (they only excell at mass-damage more than others)

so why should wiz get a hp boost on armors that are exclusive for giving hp boosts? how about cos everyone else does. gonna leave wiz with a dark armor that isnt worth the space it takes up in the drop files?what is difficult to understand here..?its not my opinion that +mp is pointless...its a FACT

why you dont wanna change it is behond me, are wiz here sooo much more powerful than they are on any official server when compared to other classes..no

Calm down a bit. With the current damage of Blizz/FF, wizzies are indeed v powerfull. As for OP - its a fine line that they seem to be skirting at the moment. Wizzies use MP, it is their primary resource (as opposed to HP), so that is what the armour adds to keep it in character to the class lock.

Giving wizzies even more HP, especially at that level, makes them a lot harder - reducing the glass cannon that wizzies are supposed to be. At level 40 you can get 350-400 hp fairly easily. That mixed with MS, and auto pot, makes their surviveability already incredibly high.

Admittedly, at that level MP isn't a massive concern, so something probably could be done with the stat that is more useful - but going instantly for HP isn't in the classes, or the games best interests balance wise. If you wanted to be able to tank mobs, roll a warrior. My 2 cents anyway.

/Mark

 

[d1craig]

Change it to +mp regen then it becomes a lot more useful. Doesn't compare to HP but it's still more useful.

 

[HarryH]

Get an archer in the equivalent of evilwoman's kit, and they'll hurt less 1v1 than he does, they have no shield, equivalent HP and that's not even taking into account multiple targets.

 

[Varaka]

Have to agree the MP stat on that amour is useless. That armour is more rare than the OK Robe/ Heaven Armour and lvl 50 armours. As pro rings are not in the drop file, it should have a HP stat.

 

[Tai]

Change it to +mp regen then it becomes a lot more useful. Doesn't compare to HP but it's still more useful.

This wes going to be my suggestion also.

 

[Rollcage]

Calm down a bit. With the current damage of Blizz/FF, wizzies are indeed v powerfull. As for OP - its a fine line that they seem to be skirting at the moment. Wizzies use MP, it is their primary resource (as opposed to HP), so that is what the armour adds to keep it in character to the class lock.

Giving wizzies even more HP, especially at that level, makes them a lot harder - reducing the glass cannon that wizzies are supposed to be. At level 40 you can get 350-400 hp fairly easily. That mixed with MS, and auto pot, makes their surviveability already incredibly high.

Admittedly, at that level MP isn't a massive concern, so something probably could be done with the stat that is more useful - but going instantly for HP isn't in the classes, or the games best interests balance wise. If you wanted to be able to tank mobs, roll a warrior. My 2 cents anyway.

/Mark

ever used FF? you HAVE to tank mobs...and im not asking for 5million hp on the armor, im asking for a useful stat,somthing that will directly increase the SURVIVABILITY OF THE WEARER like every other class has

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Get an archer in the equivalent of evilwoman's kit, and they'll hurt less 1v1 than he does, they have no shield, equivalent HP and that's not even taking into account multiple targets.

this isnt entrely true, archers nearly 1 hit me through shield in kit a little worse off that EW's..

 

[HarryH]

EW hits 370 with flamefield, 360 with blizzard and i'm assuming 550 with meteor strike when he gets it. All without red poison. The fact that a wizards AOE, does a lot more damage than an archers single point damage is far beyond my understanding.

A wizard only needs this extra HP for PvP, where they can already 1 hit kill assassins, taoists and archers. It's a shame the armour is pretty pointless, it should be given some bonus over other robes, but I don't think HP is the way to go. I'd say make it MC5-5, BDA is fine at 1-2, GDA 0-4, Gold DA is 2-2 if i'm not mistaken and dark armour 1-2.