Remove Life pills from auto potion?

[SkeemaLOM]

Hi, wondering about opinions on this. It was suggested before on discord that pills be removed from autopots and at the time i disagreed as didnt see how it would have been as bad as people were making out. However this was pre-defiance changes and before advanced potion mastery existed.

Now, i would like to explain my reasoning as to why my opinion has changed.....warriors are tanky beasts currently, which i love to see as always been a tanky warrior on 99% of mir servers ive played. however the balance is slightly off. what with other class HP being extremely low you will find warriors using defiance during pvp and full tank kit yet still be able to kill most classes with perhaps the exception of a tao with CL in 2 hit combo.

As a sin its impossible to kill a warrior around the same level who is using pills (i was under the impression sins are supposed to be strongest characters for 1v1). The main issue on pills in auto potions is the fact they have 1 second cooldown and killing a warrior with his defiance up who can pot every second without pressing any buttons, is abit...broken. tbh no class should be able to automatically pot every one second. perhaps on next dev meeting some tests on sin vs warrior pvp could be checked with pills

im not even gonna start thinking about 1 second cooldown pills with advanced potion mastery

now removing pills from autopotion but leaving them in the shop to manual pot this is my preferred solution, as then they at least have to focus on pushing a button to sustain their health rather than having it done for them so they can cast spells at the same time....i mean its not like warriors dont already have the least amount of buttons to press as it is...and has always been.

ginsengs imo are fine left on autopotion with one sec CD as they are unavailable to shop, and are important for alot of high bosses. i would just like pills to be considered in the same way.

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by the way this isnt a moan about warriors as such, just i believe all classes would be better pvp balanced without such low automated potions as one second

 

[Exwizz]

what a dumb suggestion. move along.

 

[WelshSteel]

Incorrect auto pot usage is a sinkhole, do you seriously think much would change if auto pots weren't here? it would just end up being an inconvenience but also forcing others to itemize more defense (hp) to compensate for the fact they have to take a slight hit to mechanics to press a pot.

I was a part of this for a long time on Marble, the sin vs warrior debate and it looks like you are miffed that the warrior can easily sustain the trade or ignore you, the fact is for certain aspects it's very much a team game especially when it comes to pvp and spend a day thinking about the strengths and weaknesses of all the classes and them playinig together and you should come to find an answer on how you should play the game!

/Libero

 

[DarkSacred]

Group of 15 of us tonight (all be it the majority under level 38) trying to take down a single level 45 warrior, couldn't scratch him, easily out potted our damage. While it was funny and enjoyable I cant imaging its going to be much fun later game when warrior can just stack up hundreds of potions and be unstoppable. My warrior currently has over 1,200 bag weight too.....

Not sure if the best solution is to increase the potion timer to 2 seconds? Or change the function of pills entirely (maybe make them tick like Mir 2?) but either way as it stands its just silly. As a warrior I'm never going down unless I run out of potions in my very deep pockets.

 

[Exwizz]

So pre level 38s couldn’t kill a 45 warrior with defiance with min stats being the same as max he wouldn’t even need pills.

The damage most of you will be dealing to him would be laughable.

he would have been using (L) normal pots for sure pills aren’t cheap to just **** about like that.

 

[WelshSteel]

Group of 15 of us tonight (all be it the majority under level 38) trying to take down a single level 45 warrior, couldn't scratch him.

15 average players or a mixed bag of good/bad/afk all around lvl 38 (the top end of the lower spectrum of the server) vs a lvl 45 warrior with a good few essential warrior skills at lvl 3, highly likely to have much superior kit in comparison, better companion and lvled stats etc and very likely to be of a competitive mind frame because he's got to 45+ in a short server life span. Nothing more to be said :/

/Libero

 

[SkeemaLOM]

i already put the option on the poll of having the cooldown increased/matched to 2sec (same cooldown as non pills)

Shane and Jamie if you could do some testing please with equal kit and lvl chars? should warriors be able to be the best 1v1 class and at the same time the tankiest?

being able to pot every one second on a server with no flinch doesnt quite work, 2 second cooldown on autopotion conssumables would actually make pvp more fun imo

 

[Exwizz]

The whole game is group based, what the **** are 1v1s gonna solve?

You can’t be this dense.

also it’s impossible for sins to kill warriors? Spectate Tony he wipes plenty of people out including warriors also with the warriors using pills before you spill some more dribble.

 

[SkeemaLOM]

minus rep me Exwizz idk why u have to bring your salt to a simple poll thread. gave your opinion, now move along. not everyone will agree with me, thats life but negative reporting me for having a different opinion than you? lol kids these days

 

[Exwizz]

minus rep me Exwizz idk why u have to bring your salt to a simple poll thread. gave your opinion, now move along. not everyone will agree with me, thats life but negative reporting me for having a different opinion than you? lol kids these days

The - rep was simply how much bullshit you’ve just displayed, saying assassins can’t kill warriors because someone as bad as you can’t.

Don’t try and take the high ground about opinions nd what not you’re just a terrible player with terrible game sense enough said.

Melon.

 

[SkeemaLOM]

oh i just realized youre ExCaLa...aka the guy whos calling me dumb retard for saying wemade GSP didnt have autopotions. how did you make lvl 73 on there yet you cant even remember that there was no autopotions on gsp?

also anyone anyone WhO WriTes AnYtHiNg LiKe ThiS WaY is a self confessed moron in my eyes, if you want to start insulting. this isnt 2005 msn messenger days. feel free to -rep me again

 

[Exsodius]

Same reply I get every suggestion thread:

"Stop crying...."

 

[SkeemaLOM]

please tell me again how im a retard for saying wemade gsp global didnt have autopots :lol i need a good laugh, love how you talk like Mir3 Wiki. when u cant even remember something as basic as autopotions not existing on wedmade gsp. you cried about no pk drops now youre just ggonna throw salt on every opinion that differs to your own

 

[Exsodius]

please tell me again how im a retard for saying wemade gsp global didnt have autopots :lol i need a good laugh, love how you talk like Mir3 Wiki. when u cant even remember something as basic as autopotions not existing on wedmade gsp. you cried about no pk drops now youre just ggonna throw salt on every opinion that differs to your own

At least quote who you're trash talking....because you've already mentioned auto pots earlier (or are you just repeating yourself?) and I wasn't involved in your global dispute

 

[SkeemaLOM]

[14 January 2018 23:42:25]: (!@)Skeema: wasnt even autopotions on global so makes me laugh when ppl talk about pills on global...lul
[14 January 2018 23:42:40]: (!@)KingTony: yes there was? lol
[14 January 2018 23:42:46]: (!@)ExCaLa: lol this guy.
[14 January 2018 23:42:53]: (!@)Hells: =D
[14 January 2018 23:42:55]: (!@)Skeema: gsp global.
[14 January 2018 23:43:14]: (!@)KingTony: yup i know what you ment...
[14 January 2018 23:43:29]: (!@)ExCaLa: did u ever get past the buy pot part and using them you thick ****
[14 January 2018 23:43:35]: You have received a new mail from SpankMe.
[14 January 2018 23:44:47]: (!@)Karma: wemade server had no auto pots though
[14 January 2018 23:44:58]: (!@)ExCaLa: wemade is GSP and it did.

:highly_amused:

 

[Exsodius]

:highly_amused:

Ahh ok, so it was aimed at ExCaLa and now it's 3 times

 

[Chalace]

I haven no input on class balance or who can/can't kill who...

I do however have a general opinion on the subject.
Never liked instant potions as standard, it is poor design in general. Good old days of a sun pot or 2 staying in your bag all day waiting for that 'oh ****' moment was fine. Auto-pot was the worst thing to ever be added into Mir. the only reason it exists is to facilitate lazy people. Even when it was buggy as hell on other servers and got you killed, people still used it... that says everything.

 

[SkeemaLOM]

good old pot bug days of clicking the box in mirmail for quick fix whilst creating duplicate fake pots in bag, ah i remember it so fondly

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so current poll results inconclusive, typical for mir players no one can agree, disregard any logic because for certain players current state benefits themselves, loads of salt thrown about as a result and general feeling of wasted time has been achieved. :lol

i think next poll should be how many sins have already rerolled to warrior...reults may be surprising for some

 

[daneo1989]

This is my personal opinion on Auto Pot,

It takes away any form of skill towards the gameplay, I have noticed Mir3 is a lot faster than Mir2 (Die a lot faster).
I personally would add additional Pot usage CD to AutoPot, whether its normal potions or pills.

 

[nwaticky]

This is my personal opinion on Auto Pot,

It takes away any form of skill towards the gameplay, I have noticed Mir3 is a lot faster than Mir2 (Die a lot faster).
I personally would add additional Pot usage CD to AutoPot, whether its normal potions or pills.

I think this would be the best option.