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Scampi

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The whole sun pot debate is pretty obvious - there shouldn't be bundles of them for the sake of pvp and pve.

There will always be cheats of some sorts on mir, because it's so easy to cheat on - do what you can against them, but if they donate a lot they wont be banned.
Low or non donors will be made an example of once every blue moon - but this doesn't stop the server being fun or making people want to keep loggging on. It's a different topic for debate that doesn't really make a difference to how long the server will be active for. Hot topic too it seems but should probably have its own thread with a poll?
 

kickey

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If the warrior runs up, does 2 hits but doesn't kill them and also gets hit twice by say, flamefield at the same time- but neither opponent dies, why would the wizard use sun potions when he can regain his full health with a normal potion 4x quicker than a warrior can?

You're assuming one class just sits there like a pleb taking damage without dealing any of it back lol.

I mean if that's how you play fair game to you.

Your assuming that the warrior is always going to run away, obviously he won't run after 2 or 3 hits if he doesn't need to ... but in that time the wizard will have to use suns to say alive while the warrior wont.

It's just an example..
 

CrazyBear...

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Your assuming that the warrior is always going to run away, obviously he won't run after 2 or 3 hits if he doesn't need to ... but in that time the wizard will have to use suns to say alive while the warrior wont.

And that is why a warrior is a tank and wizard is not.

A wizard is actually in a worse position with the current sun pot delay.
 

kickey

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And that is why a warrior is a tank and wizard is not.

Still over looking the fact warriors gona have a bag full of sun pots while every other class is going to have fk all, being forced to tt or die.

Anyway im done on this, ciao
 
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DeeKayDee

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Still over looking the fact warriors gona have a bag full of sun pots while every other class is going to have fk all, being forced to tt or die.

Anyway im done on this, ciao


I know rite, if only we have a way of limiting them?! OH WAIT


I have never face palmed so much on a thread before...
 

CrazyBear...

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Still over looking the fact warriors gona have a bag full of sun pots while every other class is going to have fk all, being forced to tt or die.

Anyway im done on this, ciao

This is currently what is happening now though, you're making it sound like a big deal. Warriors can also carry more sun bundles than a wizard due to bag weight.
 

Mystickiller

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Wizard bag weight isnt really that bad. I'd easily sacrafice 10-20mp and 10-20hp for 4-5 sunpot bundles in reserve, or a bag of loose ones i can actually spam when 5 people jump on you. MS is good, but not that good.
 

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Removing the delay will ofcourse massively help assassins, archers and mostly wizards. However won't it make warriors unkillable in high damage fights?

Currently in a fight a warrior has the bonus of his HP pool, the 1 second sun rule means that once he's below 500hp he's exactly the same as an assassin and if you maintain the pressure he's going to pop pretty quickly. If you lift the cap wont they just smash it out above 800hp the whole time?
 

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Removing the delay will ofcourse massively help assassins, archers and mostly wizards. However won't it make warriors unkillable in high damage fights?

Currently in a fight a warrior has the bonus of his HP pool, the 1 second sun rule means that once he's below 500hp he's exactly the same as an assassin and if you maintain the pressure he's going to pop pretty quickly. If you lift the cap wont they just smash it out above 800hp the whole time?


We're talking about removing the delay AND removing sun bundles Harry

If a warrior is spamming sun pots each time he goes below 800hp instead of tactically dashing away to re-gen .. then he is out of sunpots fairly quickly = bye bye warrior.
 

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Still over looking the fact warriors gona have a bag full of sun pots while every other class is going to have fk all, being forced to tt or die.

Anyway im done on this, ciao


How has that been overlooked?

When Koriban/Crazy and DeeKay all said; 'limit the amount of SunPots people can carry' - they addressed this......

Please read things properly before responding, otherwise everything you say is taken less seriously and it turns to flames rather than people working together to improve the quality of the server.

Stupidity costs servers their lives.
 

CrazyBear...

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Would be interesting to have Babyhack's thoughts, maybe a poll with arguments for and against.

Like i pointed out earlier, this makes caves/bosses harder which has been a hot topic recently.
 

kickey

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How has that been overlooked?

When Koriban/Crazy and DeeKay all said; 'limit the amount of SunPots people can carry' - they addressed this......

Please read things properly before responding, otherwise everything you say is taken less seriously and it turns to flames rather than people working together to improve the quality of the server.

Stupidity costs servers their lives.

last post...

If we all have 30 suns each....

war meets sin....who runs out of suns

war meets tao ....who runs out of suns

War meets archer ...who runs out of suns ( if he actually gets to use all 30 )

War meets wizard... who runs out of suns.

Same in group fights too... warriors will use sun pots less often ...


If you don't agree with, or understand my point of view then that's fine ... No need to get petty.
 

ILovePie:D

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last post...

If we all have 30 suns each....

war meets sin....who runs out of suns

war meets tao ....who runs out of suns

War meets archer ...who runs out of suns ( if he actually gets to use all 30 )

War meets wizard... who runs out of suns.

Same in group fights too... warriors will use sun pots less often ...


If you don't agree with, or understand my point of view then that's fine ... No need to get petty.

I'm sure a warrior would sink more suns than I.
 

CantTouchThis

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In answer to your question(s) kickey: warrior runs out of suns.

Sins out-dps warriors now
Taos wont even get hit due to pets
Archers are ranged so shouldnt get hit
Wizz are ranged so shouldnt get hit, they also have clone

Seriously, in a 1 on 1 warriors are shite. In a group fight they have to take damage just to get next to their target. Sure they can maybe take 1 more hit before having to sun compared to sins but then thats it - after that hit theyre on the same hp.
 

ILovePie:D

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I think this thread sums up the fact that PotatoFaggot has no idea what he is talking about.
 

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last post...

If we all have 30 suns each....

war meets sin....who runs out of suns

war meets tao ....who runs out of suns

War meets archer ...who runs out of suns ( if he actually gets to use all 30 )

War meets wizard... who runs out of suns.

Same in group fights too... warriors will use sun pots less often ...


If you don't agree with, or understand my point of view then that's fine ... No need to get petty.


I was not being petty, far from it, again if you had read my post, you would have surmised that for yourself.

However, you failed to do that.

I was trying to maintain a subjective view and not start an e-peen contest, you said something had been overlooked or not considered by the main people posting on this thread - I explained to you that they had covered that base, and how they had covered it.

You then tried to be clever, and in the next few posts have been proven incorrect again.

So, if you don't agree with, or understand the posts, opinions and facts laid before you by the entirety of the LOMCN community, you should delete Mir and get back in the field.
 

kickey

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How has that been overlooked?

When Koriban/Crazy and DeeKay all said; 'limit the amount of SunPots people can carry' - they addressed this......

Please read things properly before responding, otherwise everything you say is taken less seriously and it turns to flames rather than people working together to improve the quality of the server.

Stupidity costs servers their lives.


Ain't nothing but petty.

I read all posts fully and correctly and explained my views on every class having 30 suns ...

like i said ... if you or every single other person on this forums doesn't agree with me that is fine... every1 is entitled to there opinion ....and no matter how many times you want to say my opinion is stupid or w.e new **** you want to come out with that's fine ....but my opinion won't change .
 
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