Server Team can you fix the wiz today please or do tests.
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For some reason sam think wizzies were over powered on AceM2 when they wasnt over powered at all, there were few issues like TU being effected by luck, giving wizizes a stupid way to level that broke them on ace which did get fixed! meteor shower on Acem2 was stupidly over powered, one shotting most people even warriors! issues that were cause by the DEVs so on chronicles because of that they were nerfed every way they could have been!
on AceM2 wizzies did damage and only needed pets when they felt like a change! not that they were needed! wizzies were still always extremely killable! just they could give it back aswell! maybe it was me that made them look over powered on ace
If you expecting a change to wizzies dont bother! i gave up ages ago! sam will on say "tame pets" or some crap like that!
/Pandoria
can we get this "girl" a ego checker please. cause im pretty sure "her" current 1 is broken.
as for wizzie cant comment havent played 1
As a nrly L43 Archer who spends all my time levelling (no Pvp), I think wiz are "a viable class" as they can:-
1.) TU archers for 6800xp with a 45%+ success rate at the same level, meaning they can get 6800xp for 1 MP(L), even with attuned mind I cannot match this while using single target or the famous "overpowered" static shot, even with plat arrows & all quest items (high DC).
2.) Wiz can do same dmg with their lightning spell as I can with my primary single target attack (assuming on a 'living' mob rather than an undead which I get a slight bonus on) but also hit in a line. This effectively makes their spell similar to Piercing Shot which I suspect I'll never see :-( It also has an incredibly high base damage meaning even with little MC it does very high damage.
3.) Two wizards working together than Tstorm 20+ mobs at a time at a low (but reasonably) damage while stunning the vast majority of those mobs
4.) Wiz does have a very powerful magic shield which makes surviving against certain boss mobs easier than I find it on my equivalent level Archer with my "mega OP HP"
I'm not saying that you may not have valid concerns but it's "swings and roundabouts" (I hate that phrase). As the fastest leveling class in game I think people wanting improvements to PvP should be willing to take a hit to their PvE ability to balance things out a little.
1.) TU archers for 6800xp with a 45%+ success rate at the same level, meaning they can get 6800xp for 1 MP(L), even with attuned mind I cannot match this while using single target or the famous "overpowered" static shot, even with plat arrows & all quest items (high DC).
2.) Wiz can do same dmg with their lightning spell as I can with my primary single target attack (assuming on a 'living' mob rather than an undead which I get a slight bonus on) but also hit in a line. This effectively makes their spell similar to Piercing Shot which I suspect I'll never see :-( It also has an incredibly high base damage meaning even with little MC it does very high damage.
3.) Two wizards working together than Tstorm 20+ mobs at a time at a low (but reasonably) damage while stunning the vast majority of those mobs
4.) Wiz does have a very powerful magic shield which makes surviving against certain boss mobs easier than I find it on my equivalent level Archer with my "mega OP HP"
I'm not saying that you may not have valid concerns but it's "swings and roundabouts" (I hate that phrase). As the fastest leveling class in game I think people wanting improvements to PvP should be willing to take a hit to their PvE ability to balance things out a little.
Easy solution... Simply increase damage significantly of Flame disruptor, T bolt, Ice storm and frost crunch this can be done overnight right now. I think with lvl 3 Flame disrupt 40+mc at least u shud be hitting 100+ with it and that's being very very fair that's not even very much atm my FD does 60s/70 its a joke .
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good post cudnt have said it any better archers are the new wiz with loads more HP than wiz and 4 times the damage, no exaggeration here at all, Archers have ruined the server completely and wrecked all class balance just look how many ppl are rerolling from 44+wizz to a 40 archer which is infinitely stronger lol.
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Complete and utter nonsense Archers fireshot does triple the damage of flame disrupt which Is the equivalent spell NOT lightning fireshot is easily landed repeatedly consecutive not like lightning which is impossible to do lighting is a useless spell in pvp because u cannot connect more than 1 hit then they heal up easy with pots, you cant compare lightning to any of archers spells cos they are all single target not LOS line of sight spell lightning, flame disruptor must do same damage as fireshot 150+ to be balance the classes, even if this was done Arrow barrage still 1 hit any wiz ingame so yeh still easily kill wiz.
I think your forgetting Archers USE DC NOT MC this is where the problem lies arch can easily get double the stats of wiz whereas wiz struggle to get 50 mc an arc can have 80+ DC this where all this huge damage is coming from , look at the 43 arch wep LOL!! It has BETTER DC THAN SOWG LOL
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good post cudnt have said it any better archers are the new wiz with loads more HP than wiz and 4 times the damage, no exaggeration here at all, Archers have ruined the server completely and wrecked all class balance just look how many ppl are rerolling from 44+wizz to a 40 archer which is infinitely stronger lol.
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Complete and utter nonsense Archers fireshot does triple the damage of flame disrupt which Is the equivalent spell NOT lightning fireshot is easily landed repeatedly consecutive not like lightning which is impossible to do lighting is a useless spell in pvp because u cannot connect more than 1 hit then they heal up easy with pots, you cant compare lightning to any of archers spells cos they are all single target not LOS line of sight spell lightning, flame disruptor must do same damage as fireshot 150+ to be balance the classes, even if this was done Arrow barrage still 1 hit any wiz ingame so yeh still easily kill wiz.
I think your forgetting Archers USE DC NOT MC this is where the problem lies arch can easily get double the stats of wiz whereas wiz struggle to get 50 mc an arc can have 80+ DC this where all this huge damage is coming from , look at the 43 arch wep LOL!! It has BETTER DC THAN SOWG LOL
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Sorry I did say I was not commenting on PvP, PvE only. My only point is Wiz currently dominates PvE above Archer (and all others), if Wiz made stronger PvP I think a balance in PvE should be considered, this is all
Sorry I didn't see you going on about PVE yes wizzies are a bit better but only with Turn undead TS is a broken skill on this server as their is only one cave where its effective 2 44+ wizz shud be able to storm thru bdd killing big lures but they simply ineffective here.
archers is not useless not at all go vipers with static shot u can make insane exp as much as a wiz does and archers miles higher single target damage they can kill bosses much much quicker than wizzies this discussion/thread is about PVP though??? mainly ppl play for pvp not pve tbh its all about pvp and the fun of classes and fights.
archers is not useless not at all go vipers with static shot u can make insane exp as much as a wiz does and archers miles higher single target damage they can kill bosses much much quicker than wizzies this discussion/thread is about PVP though??? mainly ppl play for pvp not pve tbh its all about pvp and the fun of classes and fights.
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After taking some more to think about the class ive been playing since i joined whats really pissing me off is the effort to tame pets for what seems like a little over an hour for some of them (the timing seems to be random ive different pets to the ones i tamed first untaming) and in general most retame fine in a few hits.
Then theres times like tonight, it took me about an hour to tame 5 brownfrogs (which is brutal in that cave) only to have 2 of them explode on retame a little while later.
And a few times ive tamed pets only to lag out a while later and lose them which is probably even more annoying.
certainly losing the will to play atm, really wishing i had chosen another close now.
Then theres times like tonight, it took me about an hour to tame 5 brownfrogs (which is brutal in that cave) only to have 2 of them explode on retame a little while later.
And a few times ive tamed pets only to lag out a while later and lose them which is probably even more annoying.
certainly losing the will to play atm, really wishing i had chosen another close now.
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still pissed your meteor shower never one hit me or give you an advantage when fighting me? :lol
i have an ego for a reason :
got to 44 on wiz bfore I re-rolled from my wizz, Wizzys are diabolical on this server and need massive boosts. The whole point of a wizard has been taken away, not only are they piss weak with low hp, But they are also expected to toe-toe bosses.
Again wizards wanting to be awesomer than everyone else. Like they have been on most servers. Nothing on euro was ever balanced and no one ever tried to change wiz on a p server because of the crying. Most servers til now most players were wizzy like 75% because they are so awesome and own so early in server and yawn yawn. Everyone else was in the other 25% Now they arent but nor is anyone else until they get decent kit and luck 4 or more.
Someone tell me one server where msot of the players werent wiz.
Someone tell me one server where msot of the players werent wiz.
Every1 goes on about the lvling speed of wizzies, tbh most of the top 10 wizzies have put in the effort to be at the top not because we can level really fast, bullpit (46 warr) can make 0.3% in 35mins in pb and me (46 wizz) can make roughly 0.25-0.35 per hunt in archers solo which lasts roughly 30mins so there's not much different! Fastest lvling by far is sins with luck7 as proven by Shane and Jamie, and soon to be orca and tori black who was both flying up rankings!!
This, leveling has always been about time. I'll be 44 in a few days and figure ill probably stop at 45. Can sustain in vipers for as long as my dura lasts and get n1 exp/drops
Too much trouble finding a tao most the time i play (6am-11am uk time)
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I am a wizz, i rarely tstorm etc and would agree with most that has been put about spells being under-powered. i am seriously considering re-rolling atm but have played Wiz since Euro.
The things that I find disappointing:
one would think that when you achieve a level and can learn a new skill it would cause more damage than the first skill you used! FC, Vamp, Icestorm, FD etc hit less than TBolt so where is the point in using/having them.
Shield, nothing like any server i have played, im not saying it should stay on all the time but never have I had a shield last such a small amount of time. Its almost pointless using.
Pets, funny how Tao Pets don't untame, not do they have to waste an hour of leveling by taming them in the first place. I don't mind taming but would ask "again" that it can be changed so that it is not so time consuming and the time tamed is upped
I guess that yes this is another wiz "cry Thread" but i honestly believe it to be a viable one.
The things that I find disappointing:
one would think that when you achieve a level and can learn a new skill it would cause more damage than the first skill you used! FC, Vamp, Icestorm, FD etc hit less than TBolt so where is the point in using/having them.
Shield, nothing like any server i have played, im not saying it should stay on all the time but never have I had a shield last such a small amount of time. Its almost pointless using.
Pets, funny how Tao Pets don't untame, not do they have to waste an hour of leveling by taming them in the first place. I don't mind taming but would ask "again" that it can be changed so that it is not so time consuming and the time tamed is upped
I guess that yes this is another wiz "cry Thread" but i honestly believe it to be a viable one.
IMO taming isn't too bad only after having pets 4-5 hours I find myself taming 1 every 20mins lol, you can't compare wizz and Tao pets tbh, Tao pets are nowhere near as powerful!
Main problem with wizzies is theirs no places to AOE nicely Thunderstorming is the main point of playing a wiz and its crap on this server the only place we can do it effectively is in PT even at lvl 44+ is the only place can go Tsing lol! we need lots of new caves with good spawns Undead where TS actually hurts them not like bdd/zt where it barely scratches them making it pointless and a waste of time, its really not much to ask for to be able to play a class how its intended to mass killing big lures.
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Its different here. For every class not just wiz.
You don't see wiz at the top of the rankings complaining.
You spells aren't supposed to get more and more powerful each time you get a new one. They are for different situations.
I also play a wiz most of the time. Start by thinking that wiz needed adjusting downwards on every other server including euro.
When you get good mc instead of the basic kit most people have you will be fine.
Tao pets compensate for the weakness of sfb. Every server ever taos level slowest solo. Hell its even faster to level dc sometimes
Flying up the ranking almost always means biked/family char spending money and recently Last suppers.which are more spending money. Double strength and 1.2 exp Not the best idea I ever heard of.
You don't see wiz at the top of the rankings complaining.
You spells aren't supposed to get more and more powerful each time you get a new one. They are for different situations.
I also play a wiz most of the time. Start by thinking that wiz needed adjusting downwards on every other server including euro.
When you get good mc instead of the basic kit most people have you will be fine.
Tao pets compensate for the weakness of sfb. Every server ever taos level slowest solo. Hell its even faster to level dc sometimes
Flying up the ranking almost always means biked/family char spending money and recently Last suppers.which are more spending money. Double strength and 1.2 exp Not the best idea I ever heard of.
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