Should TrustMerchant Charge 10k ?

[Richens]

Well, people do talk about it, and I thought simply that it would be interesting to see an opinion poll on it.

Personally?
I think the Commission charges are enough to scare people off from putting cheaper items in.
Also the fact stuff gets removed from the TM after a certain amount of days, prevents junk from being/staying in there.

However maybe i'm wrong, maybe it's a good way to keep gold down? So maybe just a reduction?

What do you think?

 

[Follower]

I voted leave it as is.

Keeps the lower end items out the TM imo. though we still see some, they're generally people who are unaware of the charges.

 

[Richens]

First three votes split, interesting..

 

[Turrican]

Id just like to point out TM takes a lot of money out the game, which keeps gold a worth while currency.
if he gets consigned 1000 items a week, that's 10 million gold he's taken out of the game just from consignment fee.

i feel 10k is a small fee when you look at the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is a more balanced game for everyone.

 

[TheDayIDie]

True I like the fact that gold has value and people are always scrounging about for gold to get pots etc.
Thing is the best way to make fun is killing chestnut trees which is not the always fun, something with abit more exp and something more interesting would be good.

 

[Skyline]

keep it as it is.

It's going to get rid of a lot of gold, and also keep junk out of TM, and more people shouting in towns to sell stuff.

 

[Insinia123]

keep it as it is.

It's going to get rid of a lot of gold, and also keep junk out of TM, and more people shouting in towns to sell stuff.

+1

 

[mir2pion]

I voted for No commision charge because if the server has problem with too much gold, then gold sink like this one won't save it. Once items change hands for 50 or even 100 or 200 mill and more, then for pple in that wealth bracket (who have tens or even hundreds of millions) the 10k listing fee will be inconsequential for them (because it doesn't scale up, is not progressive) - BUT the poorer folks will be beat by it.

The well off pple are always much less numerous than those who don't have much and this measure will be mainly sink for the more numerous poorer folks.

I'd liken such listing fee to political right wing measure which which doesn't hurt or dent the rich and only hurt the poor and the poorer they are, the more they get hit by it. That's how political right wing policies always work by definition and this is no exception. Sorry for pulling in rl stuff, that was just to make it more clear.

The commision (steeper the longer you want to list the item for is OK because it scales up and doesn't hurt pple with little gold and allows them to sell junk items (remember as someone already said - one man's junk is another treasure... or something to that effect. And as also said, the items are bumped off anyway after at most eight days or what it is, they won't stay forever, like it was on usa TM for example.

Actually, as I suggested elsewhere, we should have second TM that would keep the items in forever but with limit of some level of items - like you couldn't list there items level 30+ or something like that. Point is when someone starts a new char down the road half the year later they will gladly buy that +1dc skelly ring etc etc but by then with most pple being past that level they won't bother listing low level items but leave them rot on caves' floor

 

[NightScare]

I voted for No commision charge because if the server has problem with too much gold, then gold sink like this one won't save it. Once items change hands for 50 or even 100 or 200 mill and more, then for pple in that wealth bracket (who have tens or even hundreds of millions) the commision will be inconsequential for them (because it doesn't scale up, is not progressive) - BUT the poorer folks will be beat by it.

The well off pple are always much less numerous than those who don't have much and this measure will be mainly sink for the more numerous poorer folks.

I'd liken such commision to political rightwing measure which which doesn't hurt or dent the rich and only hurt the poor and the poorer they are, the more they get hit by it. That's how political rightwing policies always work by definition and this is no exception. Sorry for pulling in rl stuff, that was just to make it more clear.

Highly doubt anyone will ever have 200m.


The only reason there was that much gold on euro was because of the SW Exploits and numerous other gold exploits that there were early on.

Without them, You would of been able to buy a SOWG/Heaven arm for 30m.

 

[Jamie]

I really would love the TrustMerchant's ordering to be Newest to Oldest rather then Longest to Shortest Time remaining

 

[mir2pion]

We'll see said the blid man.

I imagine it wouldn't be all that hard to do to make another, separate TM instance for Mizu that would be tweaked for accepting only items up to certain level and with smaller listing fees.

As second thought such limited TM should be placed in all towns where there would be standard TM (which would sell all level items as it does now) because higher level pple wouldn't bother to travel to Mizu just to sell their lower level junk.

 

[d1craig]

True I like the fact that gold has value and people are always scrounging about for gold to get pots etc.
Thing is the best way to make fun is killing chestnut trees which is not the always fun, something with abit more exp and something more interesting would be good.

that is great taking the money out of game but so does commission. All the low items end up getting sold the junk man and then it disappears.

most items in there atm are junk Costing less than 50k that's like 20-50% tax. Commission and charge should be taken from the amount you have in your bag. Like real life

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True I like the fact that gold has value and people are always scrounging about for gold to get pots etc.
Thing is the best way to make fun is killing chestnut trees which is not the always fun, something with abit more exp and something more interesting would be good.

that is great taking the money out of game but so does commission. All the low items end up getting sold the junk man and then it disappears.

most items in there atm are junk Costing less than 50k that's like 20-50% tax. Commission and charge should be taken from the amount you have in your bag. Like real life

 

[mir2pion]

It can't be 'what you have in your bag' because pple would use extra char with zero or low amount of gold in the bag.

 

[Merc_Draven]

Stop with trying to change things with polls and let the team do it their way.

500-600 people play this! most people who are going to vote on the poll be about 30 people --- IT DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!

That's why polls are BULLSHIT

 

[Pottsy]

I don't mind it charging 10k

But not if the item doesn't sell...I don't put anything on there as I'm afraid of just wasting money.

I'm sure others are the same lol

 

[shane1985]

Anyone else spotted people selling items on the market for 5k, meaning they are selling items at a loss?

 

[blah1233]

I really would love the TrustMerchant's ordering to be Newest to Oldest rather then Longest to Shortest Time remaining

This needs to happen.

 

[The NightAngel]

I think having three options takes away the question at hand.
splitting the "Yes" people into two groups will not give an answer to you question.
why isn't "No and I don't want commission either" an option to split the "NO" people...

should just be yes or no.

 

[Breezer]

eBay charges a listing fee as well as commission, then you get pwned by paypal.

 

[Pez]

Right now the 10k comission doesnt need to be in place. When we have items considered rare right now selling on there. Give people a chance to make a bit of money instead of selling to the shops and it being wasted when someone else might need it.

Give it a couple of months and once people have a fund then do it. But for what people are selling it destroys the use of a TM


Or just let people sell to shops and let people buy the sold items from the npcs.

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eBay charges a listing fee as well as commission, then you get pwned by paypal.

But Ebay charges a percentage, so does paypal. Where are the TM charges a flat 10k.