Sin way to op

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Jamie

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If you want to provide Feedback about balance issues, You must post a video to prove your point.

I cannot spend anymore time reading these threads without any proof as it just becoming hive mind issue.
 

SadClown

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It's a Wizz/Sin server

you have Wiz's pet frogs owning everything in sight
you have Sin's 100% run speed no cd/silly damage even in shop gear
you got Taos doing shite,heals don't mean **** as HP pots and heals are HoT's
You have Wars that are having to stack ACC? lol
I like the server, but there has to be more balancing..
 

daneo1989

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My opinion on the following points.

1. FoxCave Frogs have always been strong, either way is to refuce its DMG which could either be through the mob itself or make each tamed pet loose 10% per tamed mob ie 1 = 90% 2 = 80% 3 = 70% 4 = 60% 5 = 50% Yes this is a major nerf but a fair,
2. Increase CD or add one to the Run Spd spell, Lower Assassins ACC by 25% see how it goes
3. Maybe give taoists better healing spells maybe instant heal or greater hp heals ie 30/50 etc
4. See point 2 to nerf sin
 

Dibby

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A lvl 35 can toe to toe me when I'm lvl 40 when they have red poison and I have near 90 dc sort it out Jamie honestly constant swift feet is very stupid and how fast they are when they cast it may as well of just said here run some speed cheats I wont continue to play if it remains like this cba with it



Can I ask your ingame name? was this in PB per chance? I may be able to shed some light on this situation

Is it Charlotte or something per chance?
 
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Keevo

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he is lvl 40 just assumed he was 35 cuz of his kit lol,... highest dps with shop kit on lol ??? this server you can not dodge peoples hits like you could on other servers so with the swift feet the way it is. if they no how to use it then you are not escaping lol your right I don't have that much acc atm have not been playing long and focused lvling abit but at the same time ive still had to spend mils for a shop kit sin to be able to beat me with ease surely the balance there is stupid



once upon a time a level 40 warrior went to PB with his 36 tao friend, he ran into a level 40 sin and a level 40 tao and got SMASHED all over PB, NERF SINS NERF SINS NERF SINS the end.
 

Jamie

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I would like to point out that changes to balance happens on EVERY reboot based on MY observations of PvP, when the gap is too big you can expect it to be closer next reboot, its a gradual process but it'll be there soon enough.
 

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Jamies idea of testing lets fight one with rage + luck 3 sowg lol you tested nothing bro I'm not talking about 1 fight I'm talking about a number of fights I have had where sins are in shop kit running around killing people with decent kit lol... I also agree with the wiz pets that's kinda dumb the dmg on them is insane.... Jamie if you want log on you no who I am put yourself as a 40 sin in shop kit and we wont need to record it.... You guys did smash us at pb tao's can not escape sins they deal good dmg that bit is normal swift feet allows them to always get by them swear you guys are ****ing stupid lol
 

Jamie

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Jamies idea of testing lets fight one with rage + luck 3 sowg lol you tested nothing bro I'm not talking about 1 fight I'm talking about a number of fights I have had where sins are in shop kit running around killing people with decent kit lol... I also agree with the wiz pets that's kinda dumb the dmg on them is insane.... Jamie if you want log on you no who I am put yourself as a 40 sin in shop kit and we wont need to record it.... You guys did smash us at pb tao's can not escape sins they deal good dmg that bit is normal swift feet allows them to always get by them swear you guys are ****ing stupid lol

Why the bloody hell do people ignore the first 40 minutes of test and only use the last 5 minutes which was for fun.

I tested with NO Rage, No Added DC, just added accuracy.. I tested with a Black Slayer.

I mean its like I am talking to a VERY think wall here.
 

Dibby

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once upon a time a level 40 warrior went to PB with his 36 tao friend, he ran into a level 40 sin and a level 40 tao and got SMASHED all over PB, NERF SINS NERF SINS NERF SINS the end.


Basically THIS.

Im not lvl 33, I DONT have shop gear. I was with a higher lvl tao. A mob also was hitting you, aswel as my Tao friend AND me. Then you post a QQ thread?

Please do one and stop feeding Jamie bullshit buddy.

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he is lvl 40 just assumed he was 35 cuz of his kit lol,... highest dps with shop kit on lol ??? this server you can not dodge peoples hits like you could on other servers so with the swift feet the way it is. if they no how to use it then you are not escaping lol your right I don't have that much acc atm have not been playing long and focused lvling abit but at the same time ive still had to spend mils for a shop kit sin to be able to beat me with ease surely the balance there is stupid


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Good logic. I have 10 DC from my taos UltimateEnhancer, daily DC buff, Perm DC buff, smash set, dring, 8 Trigram, or blackiron? i forget. But I've a LOT more DC than you think, I'd guess more than you, or close. Also 8-8AMC/AC from my tao. It pains me having to explain away a **** warrior who expects to 1 bomb a sin. A warrior who is lieing about the situation to try force a change to a class, which will have a BIG impact on the game.

Just to note, I've been killed by a few warriors, toe 2 toe. I didnt post any QQ thread.

I'm dangerous, what can i say pal
 

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Start deleting this stupid ****ing threads it's all he said she said and crys cos they lost in pvp

videos or **** off
 

Razarus

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Jamie already confirmed that Wars cannot stand up to sins without getting +2/3 ACC on every possible slot while sins can just use shop kit.

He also said that when a War does get those stats and rage the sin will not stand a chance....

Basically, you are playing mir, there is never going to be balance at every stage of the game.

I think Jamie has made a huge mistake to say that there is no issue just get to 45 and stack ACC. The balance zone should always be the grind wall. As that wall moves so must the balance act.
Managing the hardcore and pay to win is the trick because they always step into the next zone of balance.
 

shawn56

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you added acc yeah so what your saying is we have to acc gem everything to be any good and by doing that we will have to lose dc and not do any dmg so they still can tank our hits nice one for that Jamie bro your such a smart guy.. my problem is only that a shop kit sin can toe to toe a warrior with red psn on him when he has 90 dc lol and yeah I do a good fs swift feet away come back like hey you did a good hit well done lets carry on then oh look your low no escaping me I run like I'm running speed cheats all the time ... think it over mate it isn't hard to see why a lot of people are complaining... I don't really no what a VERY THINK WALL is you might need to correct that one...
 

shawkey

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Agreed with you really sins have op dmg and speed
 

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If you think Sins are OP try fighting a 44 wiz with 5 Level 7 BigHedgeKektals.

Those ****ers are broken.
 

shawn56

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If you think Sins are OP try fighting a 44 wiz with 5 Level 7 BigHedgeKektals.

Those ****ers are broken.

I completely agree with you bro pets need a nerf to but wiz don't really do to much dmg with there spells either
 

Keevo

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Jamies idea of testing lets fight one with rage + luck 3 sowg lol you tested nothing bro I'm not talking about 1 fight I'm talking about a number of fights I have had where sins are in shop kit running around killing people with decent kit lol... I also agree with the wiz pets that's kinda dumb the dmg on them is insane.... Jamie if you want log on you no who I am put yourself as a 40 sin in shop kit and we wont need to record it.... You guys did smash us at pb tao's can not escape sins they deal good dmg that bit is normal swift feet allows them to always get by them swear you guys are ****ing stupid lol

You also forget to factor in your terrible pvp skills

just saying.
 

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What bothers me is that we need to stack acc just to be able to hit them. We dont need acc for anything else. We hit just fine the bosses and everything else atm. Except sins.
They can + dc and slow/agil their kit...higher agil, higher chance to tank any mobs. I tested with a 40+ sin in pb..in a lvling session he used like 37 hp pots while I used 140 (im 42 warr).
Dont even want to know how slow will proc with their 8 a speed.
They will get more dmg, slow, evasion. While we get nothing...just the "ability" to actually hit them. Not miss 70% of the time.
Anyways...not gonna point fingers...but seems abit unfair.
We'll see how it goes when ppl start getting acc on every piece that allows...
 
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