So now static shot is useless are you....
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Glad I started lvling a warrior last few days so I can two hit people and not be classed as op thanks for the total time waste leveling my archer I won't be supporting this server in anyway with ********s with the stupid unexpected nerfs because of a Tao or two crying.
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i put a lot of time and effort into an archer. this change isnt putting the class into balance its putting it at a huge disadvantage as it stands. fair enough take away the poison but wtf is with that delay ? re roll ftw
as for the main issue regarding static shot i can't speak because i know nothing about archer
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we must admit it is really hard to be developers of a community like this for a few reasons:
1) everything is shouted out as a flame.. you read 1 constructive comment in like 20.
2) everyone pretends to know more than the devs themselves.
3) no-one has the patience to propose and wait for an action.
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we must admit it is really hard to be developers of a community like this for a few reasons:
1) everything is shouted out as a flame.. you read 1 constructive comment in like 20.
2) everyone pretends to know more than the devs themselves.
3) no-one has the patience to propose and wait for an action.
Well I will try to be constructive here (I'm not an archer) but, rather than people moan about the nerfs/changes why don't you try pitching solutions?
For Static Shot :
increase the bounce speed (slow speed seems a bit strange)
Give the level 0-1:1 extra bounce
Level 1:2
Level 3: 3 or 4 extra bounces (so its the target then 3/4 bounces)
-Randomizing bounces is a bit iffy, as I'd hate to use (for instance chain lightning) and it saying, it could hit up to 5 tiles ahead but not always.
-Make multiple targets hit by the same hit take reduced damage each time it's hit
To me, people are saying "Make Archers single target kings" But I always thought that was the 'sin's job.
Since you predominantly build DC with them and burst your target before it bursts you, they are melee.
Also great server, appreciate the effort the team have gone to get it running, that's why I donate, to help you guys out!
For Static Shot :
increase the bounce speed (slow speed seems a bit strange)
Give the level 0-1:1 extra bounce
Level 1:2
Level 3: 3 or 4 extra bounces (so its the target then 3/4 bounces)
-Randomizing bounces is a bit iffy, as I'd hate to use (for instance chain lightning) and it saying, it could hit up to 5 tiles ahead but not always.
-Make multiple targets hit by the same hit take reduced damage each time it's hit
To me, people are saying "Make Archers single target kings" But I always thought that was the 'sin's job.
Since you predominantly build DC with them and burst your target before it bursts you, they are melee.
Also great server, appreciate the effort the team have gone to get it running, that's why I donate, to help you guys out!
Sins single target DPS is not even that great, I dno where you get this from? Now wars have TDB they kill just as fast if not quicker, an archers single target DPS isn't even fair off that if anything at all, you archers have just got to use to having it easy lvling.... Man up and deal with it
archers hit once every 2 secs or 1,5 secs and even warrior with no attack speed hit faster and as for sins.. 8 attack speed from spell we could all complain about that but we haven't... archers cant use attack speed kit and they hit crap with out red poision iv seen sins same level as me kill faster in BDD solo, than me solo with this 'OP staticshot' you just talk utter wet move on and dont comment on here if your not a archer yourself you go play a OP class that gets max attack speed from spell.
- Jun 2, 2013
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You lot all screwing at the staff, have you ever thought about who tested the server?
The beta testers should have noted how OP the skill was in the first place, fair play they tested up untill what level 40? Then all they did was find the fastest way to level there live chars, that's what you get for having "The Chronicles of Mir, Closed beta for apex"
So don't just blame the staff for not see'in this, should have been addressed way before... But apex got greedy, hence why most of em seem to be archers... Or have taged with an archer...
The beta testers should have noted how OP the skill was in the first place, fair play they tested up untill what level 40? Then all they did was find the fastest way to level there live chars, that's what you get for having "The Chronicles of Mir, Closed beta for apex"
So don't just blame the staff for not see'in this, should have been addressed way before... But apex got greedy, hence why most of em seem to be archers... Or have taged with an archer...
Quite like to see that, certainly the fastest leveling class so far & deadly in PvP when used properly, but then that's what an assassin is supposed to be PvP wise, but there PvE leveling is off the charts.
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Coz sins ain't already getting out DPS'd by other classes lol, aswell as the shite defence/hp, without a Tao sins are as useless as a chocolate fire guard
Deano you must be bad(like normal), I've just stood next to a sin who killed 2 mobs to my one mob while I had plat arrows on and in Drings and better DC kit than him.
You have went way too far with this nerf. As it stands archers have no outstanding qualities. We have poor single target dps, aoe dps, and survivability.
Even with static shot as it was before archers weren't exactly amazing.
In PVP just put on a tiger necklace, a couple bronze gloves (tao protection bracers for taos) and it's gg afk with auto pot. A warrior can one shot an archer. If a sin gets on you, you're ****ed in less than 2 seconds. Once a tao red poisons good luck getting away from their pets and soul fireballs ripping you apart. To be fair a wizard might need pets but with a bunch of lvl 7 brown frogs they'll mess you up and with the lightning buff they will also do some decent damage now. Considering there were many ways to counter the spell like hiding or just running away from whatever it's bouncing on this is a joke.
In PVE static shot almost let you keep up with other classes. People can point to the high level archers on the board but they would be that level regardless of what class they were playing purely down to the time they have put into leveling. In aoe situations you're better off just single targeting with rapid fire, which should be renamed slightly faster fire. While you do this you can enjoy watching warriors and sins demolishing the mobs around the one you are hitting.
I find it funny that you claim archers are high single target dps when your own tests as posted by Aldor show we have terrible single target dps. As it stands you have pissed off every single archer on the server.
Even with static shot as it was before archers weren't exactly amazing.
In PVP just put on a tiger necklace, a couple bronze gloves (tao protection bracers for taos) and it's gg afk with auto pot. A warrior can one shot an archer. If a sin gets on you, you're ****ed in less than 2 seconds. Once a tao red poisons good luck getting away from their pets and soul fireballs ripping you apart. To be fair a wizard might need pets but with a bunch of lvl 7 brown frogs they'll mess you up and with the lightning buff they will also do some decent damage now. Considering there were many ways to counter the spell like hiding or just running away from whatever it's bouncing on this is a joke.
In PVE static shot almost let you keep up with other classes. People can point to the high level archers on the board but they would be that level regardless of what class they were playing purely down to the time they have put into leveling. In aoe situations you're better off just single targeting with rapid fire, which should be renamed slightly faster fire. While you do this you can enjoy watching warriors and sins demolishing the mobs around the one you are hitting.
I find it funny that you claim archers are high single target dps when your own tests as posted by Aldor show we have terrible single target dps. As it stands you have pissed off every single archer on the server.
Sorry but LOL, If 'sins didn't have that they would be completely redundant, they wouldn't take anything out, it's the 'sins crutch spell.
But just for argument's sake, what would you propose they change about Haste? that wouldn't completely ruin 'Sins
Level somewhere else if you are struggling in BDD ? plenty of places to level <3 I agree the static shot had way to many nerfs, but saying "ALL CLASSES BUT MINE ARE OP" is just plain moronic (no offense)
I've said this before and I'll say it again - you people make WoW players seem reasonable by comparison, and that's no easy feat!
This change was made what, a few hours ago? And you're already talking about quitting, rerolling, doom gloom and the end of the world.
Very few of you here have approached this in a reasonable way. You know it is possible to make your point without acting as if Samuel has personally come along and shat in your cornflakes, right?
I'm not disputing that the nerf to SS may have been too much, by the way. I don't play an Archer so I'm not in a position to comment about that. But throwing your toys out of the pram, acting as if this one change has doomed the entire server and blaming Apex as usual (lol) is just stupid and achieves nothing, other than making it harder for the team to cherry-pick the actual valid arguments from the whiney ****.
Seriously, get a grip.
This change was made what, a few hours ago? And you're already talking about quitting, rerolling, doom gloom and the end of the world.
Very few of you here have approached this in a reasonable way. You know it is possible to make your point without acting as if Samuel has personally come along and shat in your cornflakes, right?
I'm not disputing that the nerf to SS may have been too much, by the way. I don't play an Archer so I'm not in a position to comment about that. But throwing your toys out of the pram, acting as if this one change has doomed the entire server and blaming Apex as usual (lol) is just stupid and achieves nothing, other than making it harder for the team to cherry-pick the actual valid arguments from the whiney ****.
Seriously, get a grip.
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People were re-rolling from Archers before this nerf. There are so many issues that make the Archer a poor class to play in both PvE and PvP and the latest change is likely a final nail in the coffin for the few archers still hoping for the class to be fixed.
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