So they nerfed....

[Kazababy]

So they nerfed our cast speed
So they nerfed our ability to kill bosses by walling
So they nerfed our ability to firewall and lightning
So they nerfed Magic Shield book drop rates dramatically

So they nerfed our ability to Tstorm level

So they nerfed....

Do you expect us to tbolt our way to level 42 with no magic shield and pray for a FF book to drop so you can nerf FF?

Please make some changes for the better or a lot of wizzies wont last too much longer, including me

 

[Samuel]

So they nerfed our cast speed
Nerfed in comparison to what? It hasn't changed since we went live and it is currently still faster then that of other servers.
So they nerfed our ability to kill bosses by walling
We improved some AI's that exposed a massive floor in the game to a wizards advantage, yes.
So they nerfed our ability to firewall and lightning
Again a smarter AI that determines what it is you are trying to do (much similar to the ai that walks away and thrusts warriors).
So they nerfed Magic Shield book drop rates dramatically
Drops are very much luck based, but again, nerfed in comparison to what?

So they nerfed our ability to Tstorm level
I don't know what this means, however, I have observed a number of wizards tstorming just fine.

So they nerfed....

Do you expect us to tbolt our way to level 42 with no magic shield and pray for a FF book to drop so you can nerf FF?

Please make some changes for the better or a lot of wizzies wont last too much longer, including me

See my comments in red.

Sam

 

[Kazababy]

Nerfed in comparison to Euro, whilst I understand this is a private server I did not expect 4-5 changes that make wizards weaker on here than on Euro.

Try tbolting a wizard to 30 with no mc gear
Try hitting 30, buying a Tstorm book for all ur gold then going PT only to realise u can no longer Tstorm due to a mob that hits half ur health every second
Try killing a KS or a WT, generally easy bosses now impossible for a wiz
Try clearing a lure in bug cave or st with firewall and lightning
Now try doing all this without a magic shield

Then come back and re-comment on the thread of the positives of why we should play a wizard on here

 

[Jicaa]

Yes drops are luck based, but core spells should noway be as rare as they are. The problem I see is, every skill that drops easily for Sin make them very strong without the need of the rare spells.

Also you say you updated the AI to be in line with more upto date MMOs, which is a good change. But however in more upto date MMOs a class does not need to spend a huge amount of money or time to receive all their spells, I am not saying this should be changed, I am just saying certain spells for classes should not be made really hard to obtain.

 

[Samuel]

Nerfed in comparison to Euro, whilst I understand this is a private server I did not expect 4-5 changes that make wizards weaker on here than on Euro.

Try tbolting a wizard to 30 with no mc gear
Don't see how this would be different to euro when they first opened (bare in mind we have been open a week).
Try hitting 30, buying a Tstorm book for all ur gold then going PT only to realise u can no longer Tstorm due to a mob that hits half ur health every second
Do elaborate, first this has been reported.
Try killing a KS or a WT, generally easy bosses now impossible for a wiz
This is by design.
Try clearing a lure in bug cave or st with firewall and lightning
I have been watching wizards do this without a problem.
Now try doing all this without a magic shield
Just had a quick look into this and you are correct, there is only 3 in circulation which seems low, I will ask one of the guys to look into this.

Again, please see my comments in red... My advice to you is to take a different approach if you believe something should be changed, we do not have a personal vendetta against you or the class in which you have chosen to play and when you word things in such a way we are inclined to just ignore you... Its a hard job filtering out the wants for personal advantages vs the actual issues...

In short, help us to help you.

Sam

 

[Jest]

I playing a wizzard and I agree with Samuel mostly.

Boss AI is great, however, I would prefer the normal mobs to have the old AI.

 

[seumus]

Zombies are meant to be brain-dead yet they have the sense to avoid my FW and lightning?! :P

I think there has been too much change to what was a fun class to play really. As long as there isn't ranged mobs or speedy mobs like black mags you CAN still get away with FW+lightning but it feels more broken now than it did.
Right now it is more viable levelling as a sin/war/archer + tao mix I think? I am only level 30 though!

 

[d1craig]

the problem they are having now samuel is with elecminos, they dont get stunned when TSing, they hit hard and fast so the wizzies are getting dropped by them.

i am inclined to say there are things on here that do seem to be giving wizards a hard time. only form what they are telling me, not from experience. FW and Ligthning seems to be the main one until elecminos where changed. the AI is too smart for the way wizzies want to kill. all they want is euro but easier imo and that makes for a less attractive game.

think about it wizzies elecmino getting hit by electricity... do you think that should really have the same effect it has on all the other minos? just because euro was broke doesnt mean every other server has to follow suit.

Samuel - Elecmino is the thing that is the last straw for them now, alot are going to quit or re-roll.

 

[Samuel]

Hummm...

Sam

 

[Scampi]

When wizards were this weak (well before pi patch), sins and archers didn't exist.
It is pretty de motivating when getting hit so hard by sins in particular. This needs to be compensated for by magic shield being basically a shop book.
Wizard cant return much dps in comparison either - but not too worried as expect this to level out. We just need some survivability vs other players.

To be honest, people are bringing up too many problems with wizards. I honestly think if they all had magic shield - they wouldnt be looking for other issues so much.

Please, significantly and rapidly increase the magic shield drops as things are becoming pretty un inspiring.
Being 80%+ 1 hit by a lower lvl sin in shop gear (I am 35), makes the server feel just like any bullshit high rate I have tried.

 

[Adv]

I hadn't appreciated that elec mino was not being stunned... this is not intended and im sure we can fix it.

Sam

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It was in the patch notes and thus intentional.

Like Kaza, iv been keeping quiet and just grinding through levels cause wizards cannot do anything other than level at the moment. We are lucky that a defensive kit is relatively cheap and can buy a set of items designed for TStorming. However the recent changes have like d1craig said, broken the camels back and iv been influenced by them to make a forum acc, as much as i despise using LOMCN.

In short,

- Revert ElecMinos AI to be stunned by TStorm.
-Evaluate MagicShield drop rates.
-Look at drop rates of basic items (Rubies/DRings/PlatRings etc)

PvP is completely off the menu for wizards atm:-

-Warriors in PT in AMC kit for luring are 1 hitting me, a 37 wizard, with TDB.
-Archers have pretty much all of thier damage spells? And thus destroy wizards.
-Taos obliterate wizards with super fast pets, sfb + green psn that lasts so long it kills us even if we tt. Although taos should rape wizards dont get me wrong.
-Assassins 2 hit us also even in lvl 20 kit.

Dont expect the PvP aspects to be fixed as it will take time/small adjustments.

In before non-wizard say "QQ u just want an OP class", "Learn to wizard", etc... Level one to near 38 and tell me how many times you get splattered by other classes.

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[Kazababy]

Sam, thanks for agreeing to look into the issues I have highlights and apologies if I came across as frustrated

 

[LionMir]

When wizards were this weak (well before pi patch), sins and archers didn't exist.
It is pretty de motivating when getting hit so hard by sins in particular. This needs to be compensated for by magic shield being basically a shop book.
Wizard cant return much dps in comparison either - but not too worried as expect this to level out. We just need some survivability vs other players.

To be honest, people are bringing up too many problems with wizards. I honestly think if they all had magic shield - they wouldnt be looking for other issues so much.

Please, significantly and rapidly increase the magic shield drops as things are becoming pretty un inspiring.
Being 80%+ 1 hit by a lower lvl sin in shop gear (I am 35), makes the server feel just like any bullshit high rate I have tried.

Im a 35+ archer and I get one hit by sins, yet you dont see me crying because im a glass cannon pure and simple same as wiz

 

[knives]

i read that on the patch notes that elec mino was stopped from being stunned, which is why its the 1st in a bunch of mobs that i kill it 1st

 

[Adv]

Im a 35+ archer and I get one hit by sins, yet you dont see me crying because im a glass cannon pure and simple same as wiz

That is quite likely because you can actually do some damage with your shop kit, where as a wizard in shop kit cannot.

You have several spells are your disposal to survive, and some to kill, and quickly.

Wizards have Tbolt and FrostCrunch - both doing very very little damage. The best possible outcome in a 1v1 is to land a FrostCrunch that slows/paras and allows you to run away...

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[SlippitySchlong]

Wizards are fine stop whining end of!

 

[Scampi]

Im a 35+ archer and I get one hit by sins, yet you dont see me crying because im a glass cannon pure and simple same as wiz

I have no idea what archers are supposed be like, or what they become end game.. I do not comment on things I have no idea - something you should consider.
Wizards I have a very good idea - and quite simply this is a thread about 'wizard nerfs'.
I can't really see why you would have expected me to talk about archers - unless you are trying to troll me?

Pure and simple..
Shut up cretin.

 

[Adv]

Wizards are fine stop whining end of!

This is the type of person that has ruined almost every past server. By providing false statements for the GMs.

Log off pal.

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[eternallight]

E shock or kill elecminos when luring to tstorm or take an extra player to deal with guards and e minos and then join the 2 main ts wizzies. Party of 3 problem solved.

pvp is a diff issue

 

[Adv]

E shock or kill elecminos when luring to tstorm or take an extra player to deal with guards and e minos and then join the 2 main ts wizzies. Party of 3 problem solved.

Forgot EShock is 1/1... The point of TStorming is to lure alot of mobs so wiz can do that thing they do, AoE.

Its not gonna be a viable lvling option if we have to shock a certain mob, while getting smashed by and guards, then walking and probably seeing more Elecs we needa shock, to TS 3 or 4 mobs.....

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