Specs/speed - FAO admins

[F&M]

Dell Studio XPS 1340 (Studio XPS 13 Series)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo P9600 @ 2.66GHz
RAM: 6Gb
Hard drive 500GB at 7,200rpm
Chipset Nvidia MCP79
Graphics Nvidia GeForce 9400M G (integrated)
Display: 13.3 inch, 16:10, 1280x800 pixels, glossy: yes
64-bit Operating System

Awful lag, 2 step & mir don't cover the whole screen :/​

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[knives]

Dell Studio XPS 1340 (Studio XPS 13 Series)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo P9600 @ 2.66GHz
RAM: 6Gb
Hard drive 500GB at 7,200rpm
Chipset Nvidia MCP79
Graphics Nvidia GeForce 9400M G (integrated)
Display: 13.3 inch, 16:10, 1280x800 pixels, glossy: yes
64-bit Operating System

Awful lag, 2 step & mir don't cover the whole screen :/
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your screen issue is ur aspect ratio but unlike older mirs you cant adjust it to stretch full screen as it throws all the button pisitions well out of kilter

 

[grimlife]

	Manufacturer	OverClockers
Processor	AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory	8192MB RAM
Hard Drive	64 GB solidState HD + 1TB Secondery HD
Motherboard	Asus
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

	Video Card	NVIDIA GigaByte GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Physics Card	No
Monitor	Dell 21.5" ST2220M WideScreen LED Monitor

InternetServiceProvider: PlusNet (BT landline),
Down: 4.6Mb/s,
UP: 330kb/s,
Ping: 21 (to server)
Wired with 50meter long Ethernet cable(yes 50 meters).

Nothing has been done to my pc, its untouched straight from overclockers.
My game runs 100% smooth, and I do seem to notice a lot of people 2 stepping, and I can over take them and outrun most people:S, but I always assume they have Ping/connection problems.(not that my connection is anything special, but I do have very good ping)

The only Time ingame I get a tiny bit of "stutter" is near the waterfall in the noob zone, near that oldman npc you need for quest.
But I think that's just down to un-optimized coding or something, as I can be in the "boneeliteghost" room with all the lighting going off and its still smooth.

I Think people also need to be posting there ISP, Up/Down speeds, Wired/wireless and there ping to theserver, as I don't think its always gonna be down to the hardware/PC in most case's, as even cheap £250 budget pc's now days run mir with no troubles.



I do see some sense in the AMD theory ( im only speculating a possible theory here, so don't take it seriously)

AMD can calculate larger loads per cycle,
Compared to intel witch calculate less per cycle, but they process alot faster then amd's can, making them "faster" process's.
So if the data isn't optimized for todays technology, for example the speed that intel process's at, the intels would be bottle necked into working at slower speeds but same small loads, where amd can just take larger loads and not be bothered by the speed the calculations are develop at.

Same for Gfx cards in regerds that, some are better built to be faster for modern games with "light" loads but require super fast speeds, and some are designed for the design industry, where they want super large loads in trade off to speed.

So mayb as mir is an older game, based on older programming/coding designed for older hardware, the larger cycles AMD hardware has could play an advantage over the speed intels work at??

As said this is only a conspiracy, I know some people running AMDs have said they still get lag, but its just an idea to throw on the table.



Another idea is, mayb SSD's have something to do with it?

 

[ChaseyLane]

i7 3930K @ 3.80
32GB Ram (DDR3, Koriban, Not sure DDR5 is available for system memory)
2x 128GB SSD (Raid 0)
3TB Storage
GTX 680 x2 SLI

4X BenQ XL2420T

I am fine apart from I sometimes get 2 step until I relog.

Nice set up

 

[Follower]

Dell Studio XPS 1340 (Studio XPS 13 Series)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo P9600 @ 2.66GHz
RAM: 6Gb
Hard drive 500GB at 7,200rpm
Chipset Nvidia MCP79
Graphics Nvidia GeForce 9400M G (integrated)
Display: 13.3 inch, 16:10, 1280x800 pixels, glossy: yes
64-bit Operating System

Awful lag, 2 step & mir don't cover the whole screen :/​

Download WTFast and search for a European Ping line. Will greatly reduce your lag from Brissy!

 

[ChaseyLane]

	Manufacturer	OverClockers
Processor	AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory	8192MB RAM
Hard Drive	64 GB solidState HD + 1TB Secondery HD
Motherboard	Asus
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

	Video Card	NVIDIA GigaByte GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Physics Card	No
Monitor	Dell 21.5" ST2220M WideScreen LED Monitor

InternetServiceProvider: PlusNet (BT landline),
Down: 4.6Mb/s,
UP: 330kb/s,
Ping: 21 (to server)
Wired with 50meter long Ethernet cable(yes 50 meters).

Nothing has been done to my pc, its untouched straight from overclockers.
My game runs 100% smooth, and I do seem to notice a lot of people 2 stepping, and I can over take them and outrun most people:S, but I always assume they have Ping/connection problems.(not that my connection is anything special, but I do have very good ping)

The only Time ingame I get a tiny bit of "stutter" is near the waterfall in the noob zone, near that oldman npc you need for quest.
But I think that's just down to un-optimized coding or something, as I can be in the "boneeliteghost" room with all the lighting going off and its still smooth.

I Think people also need to be posting there ISP, Up/Down speeds, Wired/wireless and there ping to theserver, as I don't think its always gonna be down to the hardware/PC in most case's, as even cheap £250 budget pc's now days run mir with no troubles.



I do see some sense in the AMD theory ( im only speculating a possible theory here, so don't take it seriously)

AMD can calculate larger loads per cycle,
Compared to intel witch calculate less per cycle, but they process alot faster then amd's can, making them "faster" process's.
So if the data isn't optimized for todays technology, for example the speed that intel process's at, the intels would be bottle necked into working at slower speeds but same small loads, where amd can just take larger loads and not be bothered by the speed the calculations are develop at.

Same for Gfx cards in regerds that, some are better built to be faster for modern games with "light" loads but require super fast speeds, and some are designed for the design industry, where they want super large loads in trade off to speed.

So mayb as mir is an older game, based on older programming/coding designed for older hardware, the larger cycles AMD hardware has could play an advantage over the speed intels work at??

As said this is only a conspiracy, I know some people running AMDs have said they still get lag, but its just an idea to throw on the table.



Another idea is, mayb SSD's have something to do with it?

Its not to do with ping speed I don't think as I receive a ping of 30 and was still getting it .... However I think its due to graffics .... I had really bad lag in game however I changed my graffics card for one the same size however with a better clock speed and after abit of toying around with a few settings and abit of help from Google I wouldn't say I'm the fastest now but I'm certainly not falling behind when running to krs like before also installed windows 7 instead of xp and that seemed to help a little .... Hope this is helpful

 

[F&M]

Download WTFast and search for a European Ping line. Will greatly reduce your lag from Brissy!

sorted... a million times better time to get my geek on

 

[neptuneshaun]

I currently have,
AMD PhenomBlack IIx6 (all running at 3.4)
8GB DDR3 1600mhz
6 gig data transfer sata 3 HDD 7200rpm
AMD HD Radeon 6950
D/L 10Meg
U/L 1.3Meg
I have some lag issues an im slower then a lot of people on here. im running bare minimum on my pc, also iv got mir to run on priority "high". I don't know what my FPS are iv never had a look in game, all I can say is this runs battlefield 4 with no lag at all

 

[Koriban]

Bump - Samuel? Any ideas? Can you acknowledge this thread?

I'd appreciate it ta.

 

[Samuel]

I am not sure what it is you want me to acknowledge...

There is two types of "lag" that constantly get confused...

There is ping lag (which would cause skipping, nothing we can do its down to your internet connection + distance between yourself and the server).

And there is graphical lag (over weight feeling, freezing etc)...

The two are completely unrelated in terms of their cause...

The graphical lag is caused by lack of sufficient hardware (graphics card) and/or out dated OS (Common reports from people experiencing this is that they have good enough hardware, but are using windows xp and/or using acpii which will have the opposite effect on this server).

The skipping/people moving faster than you is purely ping and distance between the server... The server is hosted in the north of France therefore people closer to the local exchange would be faster than those who are not.

Sam

 

[Clintus2]

so if we are using XP we should not be using ACPI? is that correct? should i be seeing if ACPI is switched on generically by a windows update or something and attempting to switch off thus making Chronicles run better?

I am running XP and have upgraded to an actual graphics card fx5200 AGP ( I have an old system) which now runs ok in 800x600 but when i change to to a higher resolution i 2 step again.

so basically if you are a family man with no money for a nice new computer your pretty much fooked?

 

[Flubber]

I am not sure what it is you want me to acknowledge...

There is two types of "lag" that constantly get confused...

There is ping lag (which would cause skipping, nothing we can do its down to your internet connection + distance between yourself and the server).

And there is graphical lag (over weight feeling, freezing etc)...

The two are completely unrelated in terms of their cause...

The graphical lag is caused by lack of sufficient hardware (graphics card) and/or out dated OS (Common reports from people experiencing this is that they have good enough hardware, but are using windows xp and/or using acpii which will have the opposite effect on this server).

The skipping/people moving faster than you is purely ping and distance between the server... The server is hosted in the north of France therefore people closer to the local exchange would be faster than those who are not.

Sam

I'm not convinced that ping is the only issue with people skipping. Just so I am clear here, I am not talking about graphical lag. I am talking about testing whilst running in a straight line with friends. You either see them skipping ahead or falling behind. We have tested all sorts of configurations, specifications and connection speeds and there is no common thread running between them. I have a worse PC than xxxx and much slower internet yet within about 20-30 seconds of running in a straight line, he's off my screen. Yet when I test with some people who have high ping, slow internet and mainstream shop PC's / laptops, some of them skip ahead and leave me behind. I honestly give up trying to figure it out. It must be something unconventional that is causing people's running speeds to fluctuate this much. We have literally tried everything and anything.

 

[grimlife]

so basically if you are a family man with no money for a nice new computer your pretty much fooked?

Same case for any pc game.... if you got a really old/bad pc its not gonna play anything smooth.

I see some decent pc's selling 2nd hand all the time for around £100 mark that would play mir just fine.
Join a local buy/sell facebook page or check local ads and get a pc cheap.

PS, no offence, that graphics card isn't very good I wouldnt of called that an upgrade, its a £10 card what do you expect?

 

[xXxX]

How could it be ping lag when i just done a ping to france and getting 15 ms lol yet people with 120ms+ ping skip past me ingame like sonic?

Its not graphic lag people are commenting about its the fact that some of us are on pc's capable of running proper games at full load easily(battlefield etc) and yet on this server we cant even get anywhere near the speed cap (sluggish as hell) yet people on lower spec pc's sometimes with intergrated graphics etc are at the speed cap running at full pelt constantly? How does this make sense?

As Flubber commented above we have spent the best part of 2+ weeks trying to work out what it is that's causing this testing with a different range of people ( some on intel, some on amd, some living in uk, some living abroad, some with high end graphics, some with low, different gpu settings , different bios,harddrives,processes etc) list goes on and on and still no joy. I refuse to believe that someone living in the US (WITH A 149 PING TO FRANCE * JUST TESTED*) who has a supermarket pc with integrated graphics Should be faster( to the point of skipping off my screen in seconds) than me with 15 ms ping to france on a custom built rig lol...

Theres got to be something serverside or in the code not agreeing with certain machines because its a joke how some of us have like 85% of server skipping on our screen but can go load battlefield of crysis np on full settings.

 

[Toddwhite]

This is probably wrong, so just discard it, but could it be the speed cap of 60 FPS is over compensating? for example super quick guy could get 80 FPS without cap, and it somehow puts him below 60, instead of at exactly 60? Looking at all the different hardware issues, it doesn't seem to be hardware related, unless you have graphic lag in big groups, but that's not the case a lot of the time.

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This is probably wrong, so just discard it, but could it be the speed cap of 60 FPS is over compensating? for example super quick guy could get 80 FPS without cap, and it somehow puts him below 60, instead of at exactly 60? Looking at all the different hardware issues, it doesn't seem to be hardware related, unless you have graphic lag in big groups, but that's not the case a lot of the time.

 

[Dorf]

there is more than likely one particular option that some folks have turned off or on that an update has done. When you consider the difference the acpi made with euro, I'm positive that it will be this. It's just going through the millions of options within windows to find the one that makes this particular client run at full whack. The rigs that some people are running that can play the latest games at 1920 with everything on and still be up past 80fps will more than cain this client. Like I said, it's a particular setting, I mean who would have thought acpi would have made such a difference in euro? I personally would not bother looking at connection or graphics, need to look much deeper in the system.

 

[Samuel]

How could it be ping lag when i just done a ping to france and getting 15 ms lol yet people with 120ms+ ping skip past me ingame like sonic?

Its not graphic lag people are commenting about its the fact that some of us are on pc's capable of running proper games at full load easily(battlefield etc) and yet on this server we cant even get anywhere near the speed cap (sluggish as hell) yet people on lower spec pc's sometimes with intergrated graphics etc are at the speed cap running at full pelt constantly? How does this make sense?

As Flubber commented above we have spent the best part of 2+ weeks trying to work out what it is that's causing this testing with a different range of people ( some on intel, some on amd, some living in uk, some living abroad, some with high end graphics, some with low, different gpu settings , different bios,harddrives,processes etc) list goes on and on and still no joy. I refuse to believe that someone living in the US (WITH A 149 PING TO FRANCE * JUST TESTED*) who has a supermarket pc with integrated graphics Should be faster( to the point of skipping off my screen in seconds) than me with 15 ms ping to france on a custom built rig lol...

Theres got to be something serverside or in the code not agreeing with certain machines because its a joke how some of us have like 85% of server skipping on our screen but can go load battlefield of crysis np on full settings.

He shouldn't and therefore I can only assume isn't doing it legally...

I will try to explain...

Run message gets sent to server...
Server receives run message...
Server processes run message (moves character).
Server sends response back to client.
Client receives response.
Client makes the graphics move.

This can sometimes fall out of sync causing the "skipping" effect...... However, it is caused by the length of time between receiving/sending messages...

Sam

 

[Clintus2]

Same case for any pc game.... if you got a really old/bad pc its not gonna play anything smooth.

I see some decent pc's selling 2nd hand all the time for around £100 mark that would play mir just fine.
Join a local buy/sell facebook page or check local ads and get a pc cheap.


PS, no offence, that graphics card isn't very good I wouldnt of called that an upgrade, its a £10 card what do you expect?

its not like im trying to get it to run Battlefield 4 lol

only AGP card i could find tbh and it is an upgrade on the SIS integrated 64Mb!

I fully expect to not get the full "Gaming Experience" i was just asking if i should do something in XP which might have made a miraculous difference.

If I could justify a further 100 to play a game i would, i have other responsibilities first.

didnt think you were being funny by the way, your absolutely right in all that you said, just felt I had to justify

 

[Dorf]

its not like im trying to get it to run Battlefield 4 lol

only AGP card i could find tbh and it is an upgrade on the SIS integrated 64Mb!

I fully expect to not get the full "Gaming Experience" i was just asking if i should do something in XP which might have made a miraculous difference.

If I could justify a further 100 to play a game i would, i have other responsibilities first.

didnt think you were being funny by the way, your absolutely right in all that you said, just felt I had to justify

bud, no offence you can pick up a gtx650 for like 60 quid, mind, if you are stuck on agp the time is on you to upgrade, can get a pcie slot mboard with a 6100 and 300gig h drive for about 60 quid.. loads on gumtree bud.. then buy a decent g card for 60-70 quid and your laughing. If you can give auntie mabel a 'computer' ie your old one that has nothing on it, is fully updated and you'll help out in response to a decent sunday dinner once in a while.. you are home free.. what I do all the time, pass my old rigs down.. some of my heavily overclocked opterons to 3 gig are still running now! Amazing what quality components are capable of.

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He shouldn't and therefore I can only assume isn't doing it legally...

I will try to explain...

Run message gets sent to server...
Server receives run message...
Server processes run message (moves character).
Server sends response back to client.
Client receives response.
Client makes the graphics move.

This can sometimes fall out of sync causing the "skipping" effect...... However, it is caused by the length of time between receiving/sending messages...

Sam

people aren't cheating all of the time, there is something in the client that causes a stutter, there IS defo something within windows which is causing this, people with rigs capable of 1920 and beyond in metro etc and super slow on here? Something in YOUR program which picks out a tiny little thing in windows, much like euro did.. however it's not up to you, it's up to the people to configure their comps themselves.. can tell you have zero clue so it'll be easier to say 'I've no idea'..

 

[FROZEN5]

I will say this... I have personally been sad enough to do some testing on this server. Different hardware, different setting everything.. I too get a ping of around 120 playing from NA. An adjustment however made me much much smoother. I could see almost everyone being slower.

Also people here don't know just how much ping can effect mir... For example take a look at firewall... If you have a ping of over 100, when you cast it, it takes a second to show up... These things are what you notice when you play mir from overseas which not many here have experience with...

My point is even with such a ping, this adjustment made me faster than those based close to the server.