Tao Vs Sin

[ChaseyLane]

Why is it an essential function may I ask..? It creates an unfair advantage .... Hence why it hasn't been implemented in other servers

Tao's are meant to be a support class, which made them essentail to group hunting etc. Deva is supposed to be a way to help offer them some protection not make them un pk-able .....

Hence why if in a Contest Room on euro taos was very difficult to beat in PvP but in a cave they wasn't .... And let's not forget the classes was balanced on euro as they should be.

Deva should be good but the master controls make it overpowered .... Literally not one person who isn't a tao thinks it should stay in game, for you to be defending it staying in the game to this extent also coupled with the fact you play a tao sort of suggests to me that it is over powered on its own ....

 

[Follower]

Your argument regarding the essential function for taos is still null and void.
Why add commands to a pet that doesn't need them? They haven't had them since the introduction of the spell so why now... You could call it the evolution of the skill/mir, but evolution means to develop for the better, at this point we are regressing not progressing with this.

You're adding extra skill suggestions for other classes to even up the balance... (more work involved, i'd rather the development team put their time into working towards 2.0 and making quick/easy decisions with things like this)
While I appreciate the fact that there are 2 extra classes on here than on previous versions, Balance is almost there. I think Sin and Warriors are pretty balanced. Minus the command for this Pet and that will bring in line the Taoist with the Sin and Warrior.

The Archer is more or less in line with the above (slight damage nerf to some spells in my opinion but again, not the forum thread for that discussion yet).

Wizards are the most hard done by on this server/version of mir and are almost a redundant class these days.

This 'nerf' to the taoist class cannot be put in the same category as a nerf because it should never have been 'buffed' in the first place.

 

[HobeR]

deva should get lost when mobs around and shouldn't target the player when mobs around

 

[ILovePie:D]

He's the tool who makes out that curse10 are good players yet they have gave up so fast give over will you with your rage posts your making yourself look like a twat.

P,s if curse10 are so good why have half them asked to join/rejoin tko?

Why have loads of TKO asked to join other guilds? Because they add any random nobber into their guild to try and get numbers, and infact piss off their original members.

 

[deano13]

The only thing wrong with deva is @master target. It should have never been added

+1

 

[KingOfKings]

I watched a tao kill a sin/archer 4v1 otherday i thought it was funny cause the tao casted hes offensive spell like 3 times lol !!
I wish i was tao now even tho its slow lvling its the best pvp class cause deva will NEVER be changed so it would suit a low rate, I mean thats a high rate monsterpet script, Lvling is boring but lets face it once you get around lvl 42 you can basically kill anyone level doesnt matter.

 

[Nizzles]

I watched a tao kill a sin/archer 4v1 otherday i thought it was funny cause the tao casted hes offensive spell like 3 times lol !!
I wish i was tao now even tho its slow lvling its the best pvp class cause deva will NEVER be changed so it would suit a low rate, I mean thats a high rate monsterpet script, Lvling is boring but lets face it once you get around lvl 42 you can basically kill anyone level doesnt matter.

just made a lvl 41+ ta rt in psc, they attacked first. im a lv 40 wiz and had a lv 36 archer with me.

 

[jez]

Deva is fine, dont piss off a tao if you dont wanna fight him. Pvp is but a small part of mir.
we all know mir is impossible to balance by now.

There is always at some point one class or another thats at the top of their game, but constant calls for nerf is getting tiresome whatever the class.
when more spells drop for other classes and kit starts to evolve as it always does,the balance of power will shift, it will be another class who's at the top of thier game.

deva is fine, tao is fine.

 

[deano13]

just made a lvl 41+ ta rt in psc, they attacked first. im a lv 40 wiz and had a lv 36 archer with me.

Totally different situation, your both casters, meaning you don't have to run and try get near your target like melees have to........

 

[Rollcage]

I know 2 sins that eat everyone

All this QQing coz sum of you retards cant faceroll everyone they meet, seriously F**k O*F to ya barbies and ya pink skirts u whining crying clueless vaginas!

Ya come to fight in scrub gear yes u fcking pikey, scrub gear, ya whine coz 1 v1 I cant kill him, boo fcking hooo, u cant pvp are clueless in team fights, I know I'll whine more, cry more, rage more, until they change that class so that I can beat them.

3 words

L2P Scrub

ok 4 words

Learn to read, dickbreath.

yeah maybe the guy who started this thread is crying cos he cant 1v1 a tao, but is that even remotely what im saying? no.

Gm's have messed with a staple tao skill and made it more than triple its usual strength, then given it a target lock. and in changing those 2 spells they have in effect raised the tao platform above everyone else, when you take into consideration the power of thier other spells on top of this, if you have any sort of foresight ull see that taos will eat everyones faces endgame, without even much effort on thier part. (you are clearly inbred and retarded so ill make allowances )

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Deva is fine, dont piss off a tao if you dont wanna fight him. Pvp is but a small part of mir.
we all know mir is impossible to balance by now.

There is always at some point one class or another thats at the top of their game, but constant calls for nerf is getting tiresome whatever the class.
when more spells drop for other classes and kit starts to evolve as it always does,the balance of power will shift, it will be another class who's at the top of thier game.

deva is fine, tao is fine.

lol pvp is not a "small part" of mir.
you KNOW deva isnt fine, ur just having way too much fun

 

[MOJOS]

Gonna cause a ruckus if they remove masters target and people will continue to moan if they don't. I think GM's should think of a happy compromise, like I've said many times before if they made it so Deva could miss its target occasionally it would stop the constant stagger and all the QQ babies.

 

[jez]

Pvp is a small part of mir, even ppl who love to pvp, if you tot up the amount of time they spend doing it while on the game I bet it's less than 10%. So 90% of time they do other ****. Yet some of you want the whole game shaped around it. Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good rumble, that's why I'd like to see OKs back in its natural home, but things need looking at in perspective. Pvp is a small part.

 

[lancelot1]

lol pvp is not a "small part" of mir.
you KNOW deva isnt fine, ur just having way too much fun

Actually, it is a small part. Hey, do you know what you can't do at high levels? PvP without doing bosses for gear. Hey, do you know which class is the absolute shittiest at soloing bosses? I'll give you a hint, class name starts with a T.

You'll never get to do high level PvP as a Tao if he's your main/only char, as you won't ever be able to get the kit required to do it. Why do you think level 40 Taos have ****ing Plat rings, 3rd Eye Bracelets and Snakeswords on, while level 33 wars on their first char have BiH, JMace and DRings?

It's because unlike their level 33 Sin/War counterparts they can't solo EC/WT/what-have-you and unlike Wizards they can't AoE farm for ****.

Get over it. Mir isn't balanced, it never will be and different classes excel at different things. Melee solo bosses, Wizzies solo bosses/AoE farm the **** out of everything, Taos are awesome in groups and PvP at absolute crap soloers. That's just how it is. The first response if I started a thread saying it's not fair I can't AoE farm like a Wiz/War on my Tao would be "then roll a wiz/war lol".

Which is exactly what you should do if you want to PvP. Make a Tao alt, have him wear the same kit from 26 to at least 33 due to a lack of better affordable options, rip your eyes out trying to solo level one mob at a time from 26 to 33, then come back and tell me how absolutely wonderful the life of a Tao is.

 

[omenking]

I started as a Tao, got it to level 39 (solo, only 12% from 40) but I rerolled as a Wizard as I got bored of a Tao as its all I've ever played since Euro.
Taos aren't worse for soloing bosses, Wizards are as they literally can't solo any with the new boss AI apart from maybe IWT/IZT but Taos can solo them too.

So don't make out Taos have it hard as they really don't, the only thing they struggle with a little is levelling as its quite slow but that's it!
If you want to see a broken class then play a Wizard.

 

[lancelot1]

I started as a Tao, got it to level 39 (solo, only 12% from 40) but I rerolled as a Wizard as I got bored of a Tao as its all I've ever played since Euro.
Taos aren't worse for soloing bosses, Wizards are as they literally can't solo any with the new boss AI apart from maybe IWT/IZT but Taos can solo them too.

So don't make out Taos have it hard as they really don't, the only thing they struggle with a little is levelling as its quite slow but that's it!
If you want to see a broken class then play a Wizard.

I agree, 4 level 7 Armoured Ants + a healer ant netting you faster XP than a Tao spamming SFB in full SC kit with, say, level 5 Shin and 3 Deva is, indeed, broken.

I'll also direct you to this thread, where people were very recently congratulating Harry on soloing IZT in 15 minutes as a 38 Tao. Does it take a Warrior that long? What about a Sin?

I don't think I've ever seen a 15 min boss fight from a Wiz/War PoV in Mir. Ever.

 

[TheMasterGee]

I have a suggestion, after reading a bunch of these threads, would/could it be the case that the Deva's attack is 'meant' to be more effective against undead mobs ? Whereas it would still hit a.. not-undead mob or a player, but the damage wouldn't be as good.

Just wondered if it was something missing from the game coding.

 

[davey_boyy]

Just wait until Mirroring has Masters target then u all be crying about wiz then :P

 

[omenking]

Just wait until Mirroring has Masters target then u all be crying about wiz then :P

I so cannot wait for it! People will rue the day they messed with Wizards! :P

 

[Xpara]

Learn to read, dickbreath.

yeah maybe the guy who started this thread is crying cos he cant 1v1 a tao, but is that even remotely what im saying? no.





I care about ya scrub opinions?

L2P or fck off to ya barbies what part of that didn't ya low IQ grasp?

 

[Guccci]

I agree, 4 level 7 Armoured Ants + a healer ant netting you faster XP than a Tao spamming SFB in full SC kit with, say, level 5 Shin and 3 Deva is, indeed, broken.

I'll also direct you to this thread, where people were very recently congratulating Harry on soloing IZT in 15 minutes as a 38 Tao. Does it take a Warrior that long? What about a Sin?

I don't think I've ever seen a 15 min boss fight from a Wiz/War PoV in Mir. Ever.

He could have used the hide bug... Or the poison bug and killed it much easier lol.