TDB - the great equaliser

[DavidShaw]

Let me correct you.
Fencing - acc+
Slaying dc+8, powerhit? Nonsense.
Thrusting tip cuts AC. Just tip.
Half moon edges 25% DC. Edges cut AC.
Dash dashes
Tdb is 2x identical hits that cut AC. Yellow psn 5%
Flamesword is 2.6x DC
Xhm is just like hm.

These skills stayed the same for nearly 10years. Just admit you can't balance it at the DCs you have ingame, but don't rewrite history to support your story. The fact ALL the skills in ACE have had the AC cut removed is weird don't you think? Or are they bugs? You can still download 1.4 official and check...

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Or TDs 1.6 and check Tdb. I mean the files are still there.

 

[Samuel]

Let me correct you.
Fencing - acc+
Slaying dc+8, powerhit? Nonsense.
Thrusting tip cuts AC. Just tip.
Half moon edges 25% DC. Edges cut AC.
Dash dashes
Tdb is 2x identical hits that cut AC. Yellow psn 5%
Flamesword is 2.6x DC
Xhm is just like hm.

These skills stayed the same for nearly 10years. Just admit you can't balance it at the DCs you have ingame, but don't rewrite history to support your story. The fact ALL the skills in ACE have had the AC cut removed is weird don't you think? Or are they bugs? You can still download 1.4 official and check...

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Or TDs 1.6 and check Tdb. I mean the files are still there.

Not quiet sure who you are correcting as no one has mentioned any of the other skills, however, why would we download TD's 1.6 or 2.3 when we have the official phili source, in addition, sure we will download 1.4... Which does not have the skill in question available in it... Just admit your wrong and how you think it worked and how it actually worked are completely different.

You also seem to be pulling figures out of no where else? 5% on TDB poison?

Sam

 

[deano13]

So wait, what does TDB actually do on chronicles? Cuts AC or not? :S

 

[Samuel]

So wait, what does TDB actually do on chronicles? Cuts AC or not? :S

TwinDrakeBlade (Official, well at least the phili source):
- Creates a x2 PowerHit (Power hit is slaying hit basically)
- Chance of adding a stun effect which paralysis mobs.
- When mobs are stunned any damage is 1.2x
- Second hit cuts AC.

TwinDrakeBlade (Chronicles):
- Creates a x2 PowerHit.
- Chance of adding stun effect which paralysis certain mobs (we control what is paralyzed via db, so bosses etc are not stunned).
- When mobs are stunned any damage is 1.2x
- Second hit cuts AC.

The same as official phili source.

Sam

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Let me correct you.

Tdb is 2x identical hits that cut AC. Yellow psn 5%
Flamesword is 2.6x



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tdb 1st struck/hit did not ignore ac or shield. 2nd did.

And to be really pedantic it was 2.6666 x dc lol.

 

[d1craig]

or you could round it up to 2.7

 

[MCDONALDS]

nah sam tdb on these files has always been terrible

nothing like euro tdb at all and no 1.5x dmg when yellow lol... both hits are supposed to be identical with both cutting ac and shield - it has been nerfed so many times on ace and i tested it countless times each time it was "patched"

dc 20-130+ and i was hitting 6/6 on a mob...

/CaptainKirk

 

[Shane/Banshee]

if both hits on euro ignored AC and shield, a warrior with 100 dc would do a total of 208 damage,that would 1 hit a level 40 wizard with shield up This never happened..... ever.
most dont no that TDB actually had 1 damage per level aswell.

i Understand people forget but when it comes to mir stats jamie and me worked every single calculation out. after all jamie was a GM for the last few month on euro and we tested everything.


also CaptainKirk if you only hit 6/6 that means both hits were affected by the mobs ac.

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or you could round it up to 2.7

they did have a round up. but it was to the closest damage. if i recall with 100 dc i think we used to do 267 damage. although this was some 6+ years ago

 

[Jamie]

or you could round it up to 2.7

it was mathematically easier to have 2.66666 then 2.7

 

[Shane/Banshee]

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Or TDs 1.6 and check Tdb. I mean the files are still there.[/QUOTE]

TDs files with TDB were so bugged it was funny, dont get me wrong good files but i loved the bug where if you charged tdb and shift attacked you would ignore the ac and shield for until the charge left i think or x amount of time. Also if you charged up tdb and then used flamesword that also would ignore ac and shield.

the amount of times i 1 hit wizards on reunited was unreal lol

 

[d1craig]

it maybe mathematically easier but when you right something with 1 decimal place if the next number is above 5 you it = plus 1. so 2.66 = 2.7

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Im not sure why it was 2.666. Maybe something to do with skill level ratio.

 

[DavidShaw]

If your intention is to have skills like Euro, Download 1.4 euro source, test HalfMoon, test Thrusting, test slaying. Me being correct on all other counts would maybe open up your eyes a little to our claims that warrior skills are broken.

If your intention is Philli clone, then me and many others are very sorry for our continued persistence. Its a misunderstanding, we believed that for a european board speaking english, that the skills would be aligned with the Euro Mir we all played.

Maybe you can even add to your server advertisement that its based around Fili Mir (where the skills seem to be different) and people who dont like that version of mir can avoid it?

Thats about as politically correct i can be, lol.

 

[Pottsy]

As much of a dick as this guy is being about the subject, he's correct in terms of Thrusting and HalfMoon cutting through AC.

A perfect example would be MysteryCave mobs. Ever come across that annoying OmaWarrior or Scarecrow that only a Wizard could hit? But then we all figured out to either Thrust bounce it or HMoon each other to clip it with the tips?

At first I thought back then it's because the AC was too high, so only magic could damage it. I thought HMoon was an AMC type attack, but I think it's because it ignored AC which is why Thrusting could also hurt them