The Conspiracy
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Flame said:
No. Because it's a complete waste of my time.
It's the same thing over and over with the tin foil crowd - they present an argument, you refute it, then they say 'Yes, but what about...'
And FYI ive already seen the goddamn video, and I dont believe a single word of it, and that includes anything about phantom passports and and cruise missiles. You think a plane didnt hit the pentagon at all? The airport and airline are just lying about reports of the missing planes? So now the private sector is in on this whole thing too? And let me guess, George Bush sent in his super sekrat invisible ninjas to immediately shower the area in 757 debris? Which, might I add is alot more than "1 small fan from an engine".
Educate yourself:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
I sat through your tin foil hat video, I'm sure you can read that link.
Don't know what forum/thread your reading, But how're they two completely different subjects? when you're talking about the same subject but a different thread being made (which you said so yourself)Wond said:
TooL.
/JaY[!]
Soul said:
Ok if you could read you would realise the first thing i was talking about was the thread Mental made discussing this subject.
Second thing i was talking about was continuing this thread
Just me or are they not 2 different subjects ?
Edit - For the people discussing this have a read though this thread and see what you think..
http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38584
**** it if anyone expects me to spend any more time in my life devoted to stupid 9/11 threads.
Search and answers will be revealed.
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didnt we have a 9/11 conspiracy thread not too long ago?
where it turned into a ******* political debate!?
wow lets do it all again that seems like fun.
where it turned into a ******* political debate!?
wow lets do it all again that seems like fun.
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1. The war on terrorism was launched on Afghanistan. A counry that has little to offer the world except poverty and extreme political veiws.
2. If it was really about money, the government would have used planes OR missiles, but not both. Hell, if the government wanted to do it just as an excuse they would have faked the hijackings, set up a near miss, and used that as their arguement. Whats funny is everyone claims it about Money (or oil which ultimatly hits the money route). Theres a hell of a lot more cost effective ways to launch a war than 9/11.
3. Bodies Survived. Plane hits buliding, friction casues heat. HEAT which goes into the metal via conduction. The Titanium bars offered the fastest possible transfer of heat, meaing they melt, people dont. In the same way you can stand inside a metal cage and be unnafected by lightning.
4. Flashes. Metal Vs Concrete, ever heard of flint and tinder? its Stones with metalic fragments that cause magic to happen like fire. So plane hits concrete = flash. If your demand for light isnt satisified yet, then theres relections of sunlight from the aeroplane.
5. Missiles? From where? IM pretty sure New Yorkers woudlnt miss a ****ing missile screaming across the sky, its kinda hard not to see it. Im also 100% sure the Airport would have smelt a rat if a 757 was taking off and just kinda had a few missiles strapped to its wings, not to mention passengers.
This brings me to the point that 757's dont actually have the neccesary controls to fire missiles.....
6. Aside from this hundreds of people saw Aeroplanes hit the buildings. To actually pull this stunt off the American governemnt would need like 100+ people in on the scheme at least, becuase ill tell you now, George Bush isnt going to strap a missile to a passenger airline with no firing method.... With the sheer numbers needed to pull this off SOMEONE would have leaked info to stop it. Jesus the gunpoweder plot had 4 peopl in and someone leaked it.
The cost of the september 11 attacks is about $2 TRILLION. Thats not counting the effort of the ongoing war on Iraq and the rebuilding process both there and in Afghanistan. You honestly think a government will throw that much money down for a slight increase in oil revenue. The only people that benefit from this would be oil companies, because once again, im quite sure George Bush isnt going to go to Iraq and Fill the oil barrels himself, refine it and store it, then sell it on the black market to fund.... erm.... the spetmber 11 fund?
I can however understand WHY people beleive this story, i myself found it quite easy to beleive after i put in my "anti-thinking and Common Sense hat" which game me +10 to conspiracy but a -113 in IQ and - 450 in Common Sense.
2. If it was really about money, the government would have used planes OR missiles, but not both. Hell, if the government wanted to do it just as an excuse they would have faked the hijackings, set up a near miss, and used that as their arguement. Whats funny is everyone claims it about Money (or oil which ultimatly hits the money route). Theres a hell of a lot more cost effective ways to launch a war than 9/11.
3. Bodies Survived. Plane hits buliding, friction casues heat. HEAT which goes into the metal via conduction. The Titanium bars offered the fastest possible transfer of heat, meaing they melt, people dont. In the same way you can stand inside a metal cage and be unnafected by lightning.
4. Flashes. Metal Vs Concrete, ever heard of flint and tinder? its Stones with metalic fragments that cause magic to happen like fire. So plane hits concrete = flash. If your demand for light isnt satisified yet, then theres relections of sunlight from the aeroplane.
5. Missiles? From where? IM pretty sure New Yorkers woudlnt miss a ****ing missile screaming across the sky, its kinda hard not to see it. Im also 100% sure the Airport would have smelt a rat if a 757 was taking off and just kinda had a few missiles strapped to its wings, not to mention passengers.
This brings me to the point that 757's dont actually have the neccesary controls to fire missiles.....
6. Aside from this hundreds of people saw Aeroplanes hit the buildings. To actually pull this stunt off the American governemnt would need like 100+ people in on the scheme at least, becuase ill tell you now, George Bush isnt going to strap a missile to a passenger airline with no firing method.... With the sheer numbers needed to pull this off SOMEONE would have leaked info to stop it. Jesus the gunpoweder plot had 4 peopl in and someone leaked it.
The cost of the september 11 attacks is about $2 TRILLION. Thats not counting the effort of the ongoing war on Iraq and the rebuilding process both there and in Afghanistan. You honestly think a government will throw that much money down for a slight increase in oil revenue. The only people that benefit from this would be oil companies, because once again, im quite sure George Bush isnt going to go to Iraq and Fill the oil barrels himself, refine it and store it, then sell it on the black market to fund.... erm.... the spetmber 11 fund?
I can however understand WHY people beleive this story, i myself found it quite easy to beleive after i put in my "anti-thinking and Common Sense hat" which game me +10 to conspiracy but a -113 in IQ and - 450 in Common Sense.
Atomicide said:
Adding to this, there is no way of firing a cruise missile descreatly, so now the entire army is in on it too, aswell as the private sector. As for the mssiles on the plane, everyone knows Bush's supar sekrat invisible jetpack robots attached them mid flight, the very same invisible jetpack robots who also converted an airliner to be capable of both housing and firing missiles. Gees Atom, I thought everyone knew this stuff, you're soo ignorant
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Flame said:
So what other incident are you basing this on? Is there a 1/10000 chance or something might occur? No, the fact is this has never happened. Your being stupid and trying to make it seem that America did something so one in America beleives. This is also very unreal because Al'Qaeda had already tried to bring down the WTCs in 1991 with a car bomb in the parking lot under on of them. And it obviously failed but killed five people, and injured many more. Al'Qaeda did this to make the American Ecodmy fall to it's knees, because the WTCs take a MAJOR part in the daily stocks that were going. After 9/11 the NYSE closed for FOUR DAYS! Millions of dollars were lost in stocks. And the stock market slowly discreased and saw little improvment for over 9 months.
Also, about your "missle theory", Did you see the 10+ camera angles that are fixed on the WTCs 24/7/365? They were all over the news. Millions, if not Billions of people have seen the video, and I'm sure that someone would notice. I didn't see any missles. Did you? There were no missles. Go read the 9/11 Commision Report. It might help you turn to the real truth.
hmmm i can see both sides of the argument here i mean it easy to belive the conspiracy theory i mean it has plenty of science to back it up and would people from an unknown organisation tell a woman to shut uo and take the money and say u didnt see anything but on the other hand the stock market the world over sufferd loss america has spent 2 trillion on getting america back on its feet. Ultimatly america have now reached there goal of complete power over oil in iraq and afganistan all in the name of the war on terror i highly doubt it so i am still left in two minds about this
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You do realise the $2 trillion is just the cost of sorting the USA out as well, then you've got to add the cost of rebuilding in Iraq and Afghanistan. As for them having complete control over the oil, would you care to explain this to me?
I mean, they have established governments in Iraq and Afghanistan..... They will have conrol of the oil, as well as the companies that are responsible for managing the oil, its not like America just "stole" the pumps, refineries, and oil deposits out of Iraq and his them under the White house....
On a closing note, the Oil that Iraq can produce is 1/4 of that the USA can produce in its own country, Afghanistan didnt even make the list i was looking at so its negligible.
And on a final note, ill reitterate a point i made earlier, If America wanted to launch a fake war purely on the premise that it wanted oil, then they could have faked the hijackings, made some crappy fake "missile" attacks (and making all of them fail) then say "look at the threat were facing we have to quash this now". They could have done that, invaded Afghanistan (Iraq was just waiting to happen anyway due to the fact Saddam was a tyrant, and nobody can dispute that) and got all the oil for a fraction of the cost this current situation has run up.
Also remember the costs will continue to rise for decades.
I mean, they have established governments in Iraq and Afghanistan..... They will have conrol of the oil, as well as the companies that are responsible for managing the oil, its not like America just "stole" the pumps, refineries, and oil deposits out of Iraq and his them under the White house....
On a closing note, the Oil that Iraq can produce is 1/4 of that the USA can produce in its own country, Afghanistan didnt even make the list i was looking at so its negligible.
And on a final note, ill reitterate a point i made earlier, If America wanted to launch a fake war purely on the premise that it wanted oil, then they could have faked the hijackings, made some crappy fake "missile" attacks (and making all of them fail) then say "look at the threat were facing we have to quash this now". They could have done that, invaded Afghanistan (Iraq was just waiting to happen anyway due to the fact Saddam was a tyrant, and nobody can dispute that) and got all the oil for a fraction of the cost this current situation has run up.
Also remember the costs will continue to rise for decades.