This game is a joke

Ecexlor

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The top tier guilds just bully and monopolise the whole game. With the medium titer, fighting for scraps.

How the *** can players even have a fighting chance when being handicapped with the lack of spells. I hit lvl45 a few weeks ago and though it's pointless to carry on, as for someone not in a top tier guild, my lvl-up means that I gain an extra 8hp. No lvl40+ spells. No Mid40+ items. So this server bread and butter (exp pots) are redundant if someone's lvl means *** all.

I could have been lvl47 now if I wanted to, but as I said, all the time and effort all for just a 16 extra hp.

Now I know many players will reply to this thread in a moronic way or the lack of understanding, but it's easy to be like that when given everything.

Gonna take a few weeks break and hope when I come back, Gm's have stopped being so fuking tight and increase the book drop rate. Allow some of us others the chance to use the spells that each and ALL of us have worked for.

Increasing the book drop rate ain't gonna kill the game, stop being fuking stingy.
 

IceMan

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For solo players there is really no point, as you get pk'ed all the time or there is no bosses for you. Event's are the only time to get items lol
 

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Genuinely must be terrible if not in a top guild tbh I slowly levelled to 44 without ff in a top guild luckily a pk boss dropped it,not seen one in tm for weeks.

Don't honestly know the solution to the problem Though tbh. Honestly though surely key spells shouldn't be this rare so far into the server. Wizards can't even defend themselves without ff etc.

Maybe lord spawn could also spawn mtk/bonelord/all bdd bossss/all the other little nooby bossss so guilds that aren't curse10/bomb squad can get somet from a lord spawn ??. Be nice for smaller guilds to get the opportunity to do bosses that are normally camped
 

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I agree with the level thing, gaining levels makes minimal improvement.

I also don’t think spells should be as rare as what they are, having your spells makes the game fun. Kit should be rare.

I also agree smaller guilds should be able to gain decent kit etc (not the very top tho) just not sure how.
 

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It's just really underwhelming when you level up as a casual player, as you don't get the rewards of new spells etc.
It's just a few hp etc.

I'm not saying make all spells like FF and gear common, but perhaps you want to make it more accessible (other than bosses)
 

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People in top tier guilds are not considered casual players. The people in the top tier guilds are players which literally spend the majority of their spare time on this game. They invest but it doesn't always pay off, you have to find the right balance between levelling and hunting bosses, there are plenty of bosses which can be killed which are not camped. Just because you've achieved a mid tier level does not mean you should automatically have all the rare spells and decent kit.
 

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Just because you've achieved a mid tier level does not mean you should automatically have all the rare spells and decent kit.

Don't think that is what he's implying.

There is just no incentive for lower guild/casual/solo players at all other than to just level and do the odd sub or lower/mid tier boss as he says.

I'm pretty much a solo player too out of the very small circle i run with so I can understand where he's coming from. Drakay hit the nail on the head, spells shouldn't be as rare as they are, gear is fine, that should be rare but I'd just be happy with a single book drop right now!


GM's need to start catering to more of the servers playerbase rather than being forced into the top guild(s) where they have to brown nose and put up with the 30+ year old manchilds, etc to even get a look in.

/Varax
 
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Ecexlor

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The problem with boss hunting is that as a mage, I cannot solo bosses like a tao (I assume other classes may feel this way), and the bosses that I can solo are forever being killed and don't readily drop anything. I have tried my best over the past few weeks going to BG and BDD, and jack ****. I got mirroring this week as it has become cheap, more available and may help killing bosses, and at lvl 3 it is just another flinch pet like deva, apart from it is more of a hindrance to you than anything else.

Even lvling now I get attacked just because they can, and like it's been said, I cannot defend myself as my second highest spell FD hit as hard as a floppy ****. I don't care about being the best or even close, but always fighting with one arm tied behind your back is just tedious.

It took me just over 1 day to get from 44-45, but that was still a lot of work for 8hp and why spend money on GG if it's not worth it. It's hard for me to argue about the quality of a mage against other classes in a pvp point, as I have yet to use any of there big hitting spells.

Hero, you say that it may not always pay off to be in a big guild (or on this game a strong guild) but at least they had a chance. Maybe if normal mobs dropped books or more often, I can say that I have that chance as well. As you know, higher bosses that are likely to drop 40+ books are safeguarded by top guilds which leaves me with one option, buy it with its attached inflated price. No thanks.
 

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GM's need to start catering to more of the servers playerbase rather than being forced into the top guild(s) where they have to brown nose and put up with the 30+ year old manchilds, etc to even get a look in.

/Varax

Agree with this, It does contribute to making pvp pretty dire on here unless your in the top couple of guilds.
 

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We are bringing something in for the Casuals, i would like it to be in by tomorrow. but i am just finalising and testing.
 

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We are bringing something in for the Casuals, i would like it to be in by tomorrow. but i am just finalising and testing.

unless you're bringing in the instance system > it's never really gonna work>
since part of the problem they seem to be having = getting randomly pk'd even when just hunting in a non boss area.
so you sort of got exactly what i expect from a big server > a few high lvl players who gank just because they can (and having no real risk of significant revenge)
 

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unless you're bringing in the instance system > it's never really gonna work>
since part of the problem they seem to be having = getting randomly pk'd even when just hunting in a non boss area.
so you sort of got exactly what i expect from a big server > a few high lvl players who gank just because they can (and having no real risk of significant revenge)

Instances make the game boring imo. Nobody ever sees each other anymore, happened in chronicles.
 
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Drakay

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Instances would be the worst idea. PvP/PK is what makes this game and that would cut it out.

You could possibly make lengthy quests for the books that are currently rare?

I could understand how demoralising it would be as a none competitive player with 0 spells.
It would probably put me off playing and that’s the last thing we want for everybody.
Like I said before it’s the spells what make things fun not kit.
 

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Instances are a terrible idea for everybody but taos... Let's be honest. Give the only class that can solo everything an even easier way to farm Bosses? Lol

I've always thought spells should be obtainable. Either through a skill tree system or automatically on level up or quests. Get rid of skill lvling too. What a waste of time that has always been. 😂
 

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from a Casual PvE player, instances were excellent on Chrons and i thoroughly enjoyed it.


Yup there are ppl love PKs but there are ppl love Pve onlys. You go pk in SW or around town. Let Pve players enjoy instances
 

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Problem you are describing is both a Wizz problem and a solo problem.

As a wizz solo literally all you're good for is levelling. There are maybe 2 bosses you can comfortably kill, but these take upwards of 12minutes to FW kill. This even includes sub-bosses, so simple cash hunting via bene's is a long and tedious task for you. If you are interrupted once, you've lost it (even more so as a wizz with no pvp spells). I think the issue is levelling on here doesn't feel as rewarding as it is on other servers and as a wizard you also aren't necessarily the "lvling king" any more, it's really not that hard for others to keep up. I suspect this is a result of there being no actual place to Tstorm/FF lvl.

You are literally an AoE PvP Class... with no aoe pvp spells. As useful as a chocolate teapot.

I can imagine solo for you must be incredibly dire, exasperated when you see a tao or a sin going around comfortably soloing bosses or subs with little to no effort. I also feel this way and if I didn't have a guild behind me, I'd probably have stopped playing or rerolled.

I don't think instances are the answer either, you just give more power to the actual boss killing classes and alienate your userbase.
 

Hercules

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Not to mention the lvling and gold collecting bots that would be used in instances. Which would lead to weeks of forum complaints. Seen it all before, it isn’t a good idea.
 

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I Have a 43 wizard & a 39 Tao So I've done a fair bit of levelling in all the different caves. Some really fun caves to grind in and plenty of variety to the caves.I'm more of a casual player that plays for fun, Don't mind having a fight here & there and looking for the odd boss when I can. Everytime I've ever found bosses a guild will run in and pk or 2-3 people turn up and I have no chance. Having a 43 wizard is fun for levelling but it does get extremely tedious just using FW +Lightning over & over. Like I said I find it fun regardless as I don't play the game to spend a fortune on the best kit and skills but it'd just be nice to have that same chance as the big guilds and pay to wins. I've never seen anything 38+ drop whether that be a book or items from mobs. People say mobs can drop rares but they never want to share "Mir secrets" dunno people always get all weird when it comes to helping other players. you've got 2-3 big guilds that are a million miles ahead than the rest of the server and eventually those casual players (and there's plenty) will get fed up as there's simply nothing to grind and put the time in for? as Ece said what's the point in grinding all those hours out just to get a few HP every time it's demoralising. I think the server is great and I do enjoy it which I never thought I'd say after chronicles, just hope there can be something implemented for the other side of the server (casuals,less skilled players, solo players etc) other than that good job so far :joyous:
 

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Here's how to fix it:
1. Make books more common, it shouldn't cost the gold equivalent of £200 to learn a skill...
2. Introduce a daily instance, this will allow non top-tier guilds/solo people at least 1 guaranteed boss a day.
3. ??
4. Profit