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craigj

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Right, well not to critisize you or anything about all the hard work n effort put into this server. But someones gotta do it.all the hard effort for an unbalanced server sounds about right to me, why would you put ********s in when you said its strictly no ********s, u have exp boosts, here i am runnin around lvlin my arse off like everyone else to get that bit ahead of others when theres fat ****s with money to waste sitting at home playing on a 20% exp buff.. well out of order. and on another note - archers do bullshit damage they can solo 2-4 mobs at a time while i can only solo 1. even with a warrior helping me there still charging down 2 or more for every 1 i kill. im hitting 10-6-9-13 if im lucky and all i see from a archer is every single shot hittin the target and for a bullshit amount like 20-25-39-30. One very cheesed off player.
 

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I believe the game shop has been mentioned for a while now... No surprises there for me.

on archers tho.... Well wow they seem so overpowered its insane? They do twice as much damage as any other class on a single target. This is going to be a HUGE issue in PVP.
 

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Gameshop is hardly unbalancing. A 1.2x Exp buff for 1hour that costs £2.00 isn't game damaging imo.
 

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I'm pretty sure the class's will balance out as you get higher level. you really cant judge from level 1 to 20??
 

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lol its too early to comment on balance when most are below lvl 20, wait until at least 30+
 

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Archer is really unbalanced. I've seen one leveling solo at 18-19 in PI, dealing around 50 damage to creeps (killing them easier, without poison, than me (a tao with poison + amulets) and a wizard with Thunderbolt). That says a lot.
 

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i think if i can notice the un balancedness this early then its only gonna get worse as that class progresses through and reaps the benefits of being able to kill every god dam thing on the game.
 

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We been hunting up to 20 archers OP, once 20+ other classes cain past them and archers use loads of mp
 

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Archer is really unbalanced. I've seen one leveling solo at 18-19 in PI, dealing around 50 damage to creeps (killing them easier, without poison, than me (a tao with poison + amulets) and a wizard with Thunderbolt). That says a lot.

excuse me ? archer hits are 1/4 on a mob ofc they do 50 dmg lol is not like a wiz 1/1 or war 1/1 or tao 1/1 atm i hit a mob at lvl 15 1/4-1/6 hits dmg that mob
 

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How will it balance out if archers are doing 2-3x the damage of other classes. It wont, glad I avoided this server.
 

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i think if i can notice the un balancedness this early then its only gonna get worse as that class progresses through and reaps the benefits of being able to kill every god dam thing on the game.

We don't exactly use level 15 spells at level 40. The archer class is meant to be very high single target damage and don't forget they don't have a lot of HP.
 

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Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

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Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

Sam

Yup for example assassin>archer in st dmg when haste is lvl 3
Wizz with lightning does 50x80 each cast at lvl 26 and archer does only 120x1
Lateron Wizz gets flame field and archer get a sorta lightning clone piercing arrow Wizz does 24x170 archer does 8x250-300
here Wizz still deals tons of more aoe then archer I do agree the st damage is still a little over the top but it ain't omg wtf op

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Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

Sam

Yup for example assassin>archer in st dmg when haste is lvl 3
Wizz with lightning does 50x80 each cast at lvl 26 and archer does only 120x1
Lateron Wizz gets flame field and archer get a sorta lightning clone piercing arrow Wizz does 24x170 archer does 8x250-300
here Wizz still deals tons of more aoe then archer I do agree the st damage is still a little over the top but it ain't omg wtf op

---------- Post Merged at 01:38 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 01:37 AM ----------

Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

Sam

Yup for example assassin>archer in st dmg when haste is lvl 3
Wizz with lightning does 50x80 each cast at lvl 26 and archer does only 120x1
Lateron Wizz gets flame field and archer get a sorta lightning clone piercing arrow Wizz does 24x170 archer does 8x250-300
here Wizz still deals tons of more aoe then archer I do agree the st damage is still a little over the top but it ain't omg wtf op

---------- Post Merged at 01:38 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 01:37 AM ----------

Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

Sam

Yup for example assassin>archer in st dmg when haste is lvl 3
Wizz with lightning does 50x80 each cast at lvl 26 and archer does only 120x1
Lateron Wizz gets flame field and archer get a sorta lightning clone piercing arrow Wizz does 24x170 archer does 8x250-300
here Wizz still deals tons of more aoe then archer I do agree the st damage is still a little over the top but it ain't omg wtf op

---------- Post Merged at 01:39 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 01:37 AM ----------

Archers have no aoe... they are a single point of high hitting damage.... there was a thread where we done the calculations...

Sam

Yup for example assassin>archer in st dmg when haste is lvl 3
Wizz with lightning does 50x80 each cast at lvl 26 and archer does only 120x1
Lateron Wizz gets flame field and archer get a sorta lightning clone piercing arrow Wizz does 24x170 archer does 8x250-300
here Wizz still deals tons of more aoe then archer I do agree the st damage is still a little over the top but it ain't omg wtf op
 

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its been said many times on here befoe yes they hit hig single target damage but wait till theres wizzies leveling with ts or even flamefield and ppl start moaning that wiz are op cos they can hit a 5x5 area and archers can only hit 1 monster at a time.
 

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Not once has there been a post saying there will be no GS.
And as has been said, damage calculations have been carefully looked at for balance.
At the levels you are now, an archer may hit 24 compared to your 10, but at the same time archer at this level misses a lot of the time also.

Archer also has different damages for pvp to help with balance. So, all in all, yes it is fairly early to be saying these things.
 
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Personally i think you're too quick to judge the archer situation. There just are not any high level archers to place a comparison, you're implying their overpowered due to their mere advantage at lower lvl progression. Taoists could argue that they are under-valued with that example, it's simply not logical.

But i have to agree with you in relation to the exp potions on the gameshop. That is a HUGE advantage for select players who opt for this option. It compromises authenticity of peoples characters and with a game that is so heavily lvling focused this gives dollar the advantage to player. I really am dissapointed -*1.2 is a significant boost, and even more so when you reach the higher end levels.

Hate to say it but it fits the category of pay to win!

Other than that - this server is highly polished and one of if not the best mir server i have ever had the enjoyment of playing. From what can be seen, the team have done an exceptional job.
 
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Archers are not op, I've finally got lvl 19 and now hit mobs every time, before that it was miss miss hit miss hit hit miss missd hit, take forever to kill a mob and I've seen ass kill 2-3 mobs while I've killed 1,

Wiz with TS an bubble an sun pot in PT will be able to solo 20 mobs at a time, well I was on acem2
 

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This is hilarious. People complaining about balance during the earliest stages of the game, lol.

Hit level 40 then complain to me about balance. Wanna get to 40? stop bitching and start killing.

Also, a x1.2 experience pot for an hour is literally nothing. These are only going to be used when you have a group of wizzies tstorm lvling people. Anyone using these between now and then is simply wasting money.
 

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The arguement of no mass hit option is totally invalid tbh, archers are going to own thus server... I'm just going to go make one and quit wiz :)
 

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My opinion on an archer played one upto level 22. Great single target damage as expected. Get Screwed in a lure or respawn. Its a skilled class regarding positioning, every other class has and aoe. Even bugbats rape archers by the time I killed bugbatmaggot I have 6 atleast bats on me and what ever else ive lured onto myself getting close. It also takes a good while to get the creeps of you as when you mele attack yoy cast rate slows down. Your almost better of sticking an arrow into each bugbat.

There's positives and some big negatives. Unless highshot become as good as a standard bolt I cant see archers walling ks for example. Something that a level 26 wiz could do on euro.