Update - Bug Fixes, Skill Tweaks and more
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wizzies 1v1 tankin warriors r u actually kidding me
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if u want this cast rate fine but lower mob speed and a speed then ?? pve becomes imposs
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if u want this cast rate fine but lower mob speed and a speed then ?? pve becomes imposs
The update partially addressed certain issues.
However the leveling being "too easy" didn't apply to all the classes. The changes to Sfb have slowed down the already slow in comparison Tao
Content being too easy just depends on each person, not all of us have cleared the content
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Wizzes tanking wars and AoE cast speed was an issue along with TDB changes, the changes to single target spells didn`t feel necessary.
However the leveling being "too easy" didn't apply to all the classes. The changes to Sfb have slowed down the already slow in comparison Tao
Content being too easy just depends on each person, not all of us have cleared the content
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Wizzes tanking wars and AoE cast speed was an issue along with TDB changes, the changes to single target spells didn`t feel necessary.
lol sigh, i wasnt gonna reply but i cant help myself now.
can you please stop posting youtube video's?
first off: you're talking about a change of arround 100ms right? and youtube displays at what? 23/25fps? that means the difference in cast times between your old and new skill would be 2/3 frames (not even seconds) at most (gl trying to see that on a youtube video where you cant move per frame etc)
second: didnt bother watching first video in detail but: this second video has both top/bottom window casting off by several frames (aka more then the time you changed it by
), not even talking about actual time it takes to cast, both clients arent even starting their cast at exact same ms, let alone trying to compare how long it takes on both (which is a joke as pointed out above)third: bah regardless of what's right and wrong on speeds: you basicaly just said: screw balancing and i'll just try to copy a set of files that has 1 online server and maybe 5 players online?
GREAT IDEA lool
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lol sigh, i wasnt gonna reply but i cant help myself now.
can you please stop posting youtube video's?
first off: you're talking about a change of arround 100ms right? and youtube displays at what? 23/25fps? that means the difference in cast times between your old and new skill would be 2/3 frames (not even seconds) at most (gl trying to see that on a youtube video where you cant move per frame etc)
second: didnt bother watching first video in detail but: this second video has both top/bottom window casting off by several frames (aka more then the time you changed it by
third: bah regardless of what's right and wrong on speeds: you basicaly just said: screw balancing and i'll just try to copy a set of files that has 1 online server and maybe 5 players online?
Granted... And they also now mimic 2.3 which you are renowned for being the developer of... So are you saying... that you were wrong? :O
Sam
That is how it feels and it was done. Few people complained on forums about TDB and now look at how many posts on this thread. It's clear that this is nowhere close to what this game was and could have been.third: bah regardless of what's right and wrong on speeds: you basicaly just said: screw balancing and i'll just try to copy a set of files that has 1 online server and maybe 5 players online?
Too bad, such a shame.
no one on the server agrees with these cast speed changes tbh change em bk... tdb got its fixed shud of done that and see how it balanced out after b4 makin this harsh change
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It is a shame we didn't catch this bug sooner... If this wasn't like this in the first place then it wouldn't be an issue, but it wasn't and it is...
Sam
This may have initially been a bug but for most spells this bug made for more entertaining gameplay, other spells however it broke
I understand that you makechanges based on feedback, however its clear the recent changes have caused a large amount of negative and need to be reworked.
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FF also needed the cast speed change as a legitimate fix.
lol sam you really never did read anything i said on our group chats did i?
i've OFTEN said my files where totaly unbalanced and had tons of issues that i never fixed
(hell it's the reason i ended up giving up, never got it balanced < and yes i also mentioned that about 20 times on our group chats so )
also your saying this is 'my version of 2.3 'was exactly that: my version.
i was always 'cocky' enough to do changes if i felt they needed to be made
ontop of that: you didnt so much do my files but a mixture of my files, ruby, phili, your own gut feeling
and made a mess of it i guess (since it's only a partial update aswell not a full change to make every single skill, mob, ... the same)
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Another thing Euro had and here is missing: when IceStorming a lure or just hitting mobs, they used to flinch and slow a little. They don't slow hitting them now with this casting speed. I've tested this with 2 x AxeOma in PB, they kept same speed both whilst hitting one of them with FD. The one that's being hit should walk slower than the one that's not being hit.
Why you calling it a bug when I recall right when the cast speed was adjusted in a patch a while back ?! Anyway I don't mean to be annoying but this server has a lot of issues right now.
1. Everyone casting speed is the same as Ruby yet the monsters here are way faster then Ruby.
2. So many things are wrong with the skills (like FW) yet those aspects are completely ignored and a mimic of Ruby files is implemented like it would resolve everything.
3. Damage calculation on skills seems way off from what it was on Euro
My conclusion: if you want to mimic euro that bad you have to put a lot more work into something that was imbalanced to begin with.
? catch what bug sooner?
the cast speed was something we argued over alot, it's totaly your choice to set the speed so dont see me saying that's bad.
however: you cant call it catching a bug if you, me, milo, chili argued over what setting this should be several times.
question is really simple: should you use diamond file settings or phili ones, it used to be diamond, now it's phili (sort of)
at least bother to give the correct info
I note someone pointed out we now cannot TU or even draw the attention of spearman now so do we take it that the euro mir 2 resources list is no longer to be used?
Level 43 and I cannot tu a spearman??? How many others have been nuked along with our casting speed?
Oh and I have been and tried rather than just listen to others.
I thought playing games on line was for fun?
Changing the skill casting as it has been will make levelling even harder.
After level 40 it was already getting far harder by each level as the required exp points increase by loads.
I hate to see when changes are made that upset a lot of people and in turn has people leave what is an excellent game.
Level 43 and I cannot tu a spearman??? How many others have been nuked along with our casting speed?
Oh and I have been and tried rather than just listen to others.
I thought playing games on line was for fun?
Changing the skill casting as it has been will make levelling even harder.
After level 40 it was already getting far harder by each level as the required exp points increase by loads.
I hate to see when changes are made that upset a lot of people and in turn has people leave what is an excellent game.
right can u say yes it be changed or no tough luck its stayin so i can adjust my kit to suite plz cba wastin more money for it 2 be changed again
Well again making changing to things nobody complains about, how about doubling pot weight? or removing safezone or removing torches from shops? or somthing else nobody complains about
if you dont want people to use certain skills or items then remove them from the ****ing game
if you dont want people to use certain skills or items then remove them from the ****ing game
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