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can some 1 give me a good idea how 2 make websites or a good programme plz
 

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MS Frontpage or Macromedia Dreamweaver. Both good but i prefer Dreamweaver. And Dreamweaver MX 2004 is teh ownage :P

How you code it depends on what type of site you want and how you want it to work.
Theres no point in making it dynamic (PHP, JS, ASP, DHTML, etc..) if the site doesnt allow for people's actions to change it, you may aswell make it static (HTML).
Making styles, just look at other sites and get a good range of ideas, then put them all together and make your own.

Dont use free-templates, they are tacky.
 

Polar

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where i get them programmes? (wanna send over msn?) ;p
 

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They had a special offer on Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 during may. Don't know if its still going but you should check out their website...
 

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Theres a range of problems facing you when you design a website. These include:

*) Static or Dynamic - Or a mix of both ?
*) What language to use
*) Accessability
*) Fresh,New content
*) Cross-Browser Acceptance

And so much more.

Address these problems and you'll have a good website.
 

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Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 or dat php thing solitude sent me :P
 

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lol i hate programs which do PHP for you. Shows how much you are at a noob of PHP.

If your going to do PHP or another web language DO IT ON YOUR OWN! DONT USE STUFF WHICH DOES IT FOR YOU!
 

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There's stuff that codes php for u ? How the **** would that work - they developed a psychic pc program??

Not all programs that do code for you are bad, I always use dreamweaver to do my css layouts - cos i haven't got time to **** about with the exact location of each div.

Peace
 

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YoYoYo said:
lol i hate programs which do PHP for you. Shows how much you are at a noob of PHP.

If your going to do PHP or another web language DO IT ON YOUR OWN! DONT USE STUFF WHICH DOES IT FOR YOU!
How about NO. :)

Time is everything and having to retype every line of code (which by your reasoning means you should code every line of HTML aswell) is just a big waste of time. Programs like Dreamweaver let you incorperate the simpler code tags and just build on to that.
 

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YoYoYo

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Viola A.I. said:
How about NO. :)

Time is everything and having to retype every line of code (which by your reasoning means you should code every line of HTML aswell) is just a big waste of time. Programs like Dreamweaver let you incorperate the simpler code tags and just build on to that.
Lol, i should of mentioned that Dreamweaver aint bad, i use it myself to save time.
But using PHP programes which are made to be used if you know **** all bout PHP make you build sites like that.

And nice pic :)

EDIT:
And i have never used one of these programs which do PHP for you so i dunno what they do, they may just put simply tags or check for errors.
I never had a need to use a PHP helper program.
And Solitude, making a program to write PHP code for you is pretty simply.
Say you could have tags up top which you press:

Variable, then a box pops up asking for the name of it.
Function, you name it, it places it.
etc etc...
 
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Pyraine said:
wow, people don't call themselves noobs every day

whereas you yox3 just did :)
lol nope. Read both my posts again. Then you may just understand.

I dont think i made my reason clear enough, i missed off a whole chunk of my reason. Anyway:

Ok, so you have this PHP program which helps you along with your PHP?
You get into the habit of just pressing buttons, naming it, then it adds it in for you.
It also corrects errors for you im guessing.
So one day someone asks you to make a site with dynamic stuff inside which connects to a database.
You start writing, but because you didnt make any mistakes you didnt have anything to learn from (Making mistakes is the only way to learn).
So you start writing your script.

Lets say its a function?

--------------------------------
class DontBeGay {

var ImNotGay = "Dont be a noob"

function ThisISaFuNcTiOn() {
echo This is echoing nothing.
}
}

$text = new DontBeGay;
$text -> ThisISaFuNcTiOn;
$this -> ImNotGay;
----------------------------------

This script would NEVER work.

"var ImNotGay = "Dont be a noob"; <-- needs a semi-colon.

"echo "This is echoing nothing.";" <--- Needs " and semi-colon.

"$text -> ThisISaFuNcTiOn();" <--- Needs bracets.

"$thistext -> ImNotGay;" <--- $this can only be used inside the class which the thing its being called to is in.


From a normal PHP coder you would get nearly all them errors corrected and it would place the right stuff to call the right stuff.
But coding on your own, not learning from your mistakes because you been using a PHP coder all your coding time, you wouldn't be able to know. Of course, looking over it you may see, but it takes time, more time than doing it by hand first, making mistakes, then learning from them.

:)
 
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Pyraine

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plus me and my friend both came across the same problem when we tried making a site in Frontpage...alignment get's ****ed up so design view is different to result