What are devs doing to improve QOL for wizards?
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So let me get this right as im having extreme difficulty trying to adjust my perspective to see your point.
Wiz shouldnt have to use one of their skills (eshock)to level they should just get a damge boost to a different skill because some people dont want to play a wiz the way its been designed here?
So on that note as a War i dont want to have to use TDB to do damage as its costly in mp, so instead of forcing wars to use tdb lets all call for a huge buff to slaying and increase its chance to use to 100%
You need to think before you post. Apply your thought to another class and then think "am i being a little twp" then delete your idea from mind and continue on.
People bring up pets because they are part of your arsenal, you can't be given the power to have an equal damage output to archers and then have the possibility of adding pets on as well, unless taming pets somehow disables your main attacks. I understand you might not want to use pets all the time, but if you are given more destructive capability this does add to your current pets / everything else you already have. I'm trying to imagine a Wizard attacking me with more destructive ability than they already have + their current taming possibilities. Optional taming = super PK mode, then we will all be bitching about that next.
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So because pet's are part of our skill set, we are required to come ingame, go find pets spending 1-3 hours, go and level them so they don't die easy, then pvp someone? So someone asks me to pvp I say, wait 3 hours I need to go get pets to pvp because it's part of my skill set and I can't damage you otherwise...you lot need to rethink your mindsets not me, wizards were not created to rely soley on pets, pet's are just a bonus if we so wish it. If you disagree you've never played a wizard properly and are so far up ur own asses to even try level a wizard on this server, let alone without pets, that's the last I'll say on this, won't be giving anymore feedback, if things ain't change you'll soon find the server will have 3 wizzies of which only leveled by getting powered by other classes or just TSing PT for an eternity with another wizard, should not be restricted to one hunting ground just because that's the only place we can hunt efficiently where other classes can hunt everywhere solo. You lot can't seriously believe wizards are "okay" because we can get pets? LOL
Oh and Night Angel, I didn't say we shouldn't use E shock, I said we shouldn't have to if we don't want to, but here, we are forced to as it's our only option to solo level other than T bolting one by one, you need to think before you post, people like you who **** balance up, do you play a wizard? If so how do you level? T storm PT? If not, shut the **** up you ignorant twat
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Oh and Night Angel, I didn't say we shouldn't use E shock, I said we shouldn't have to if we don't want to, but here, we are forced to as it's our only option to solo level other than T bolting one by one, you need to think before you post, people like you who **** balance up, do you play a wizard? If so how do you level? T storm PT? If not, shut the **** up you ignorant twat
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My main concern is that many of the suggested changes to Wizards with the justification of improving their PvP ability will improve their PvE ability which is already so significant. I played a wizard from the beginning of the game and was continually frustrated with their PvP limitations (inability to create burst damage enough to kill players before they can pot in the way a warrior can, and without the ability to fight forever with limited resources as a Tao can). This is an age old problem, wizards are easier to level but have the downside of lower PvP satisfaction levels (or at least that's my view of the class). I don't think Wizards should be fundamentally changed without a lot of consideration to the impacts to overpowering them in PvE in the process.
Worst part is wiz + magic shield out trades an archer.
maybe when archer has better skills.... Oh wait flame field poof archer gone
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I think name calling is just highlighting your mindset and mental age.
You are missing the point entirley.
taming is part of your skill set and allows you to level in a certain way. The same thing as tstorm allows you to level in a different way.
Are you also saying that if you cant be bothered to buy tstorm (like you cant be bothered to tame) then tbolt should start hitting everything around you because without tstorm you can maslure level.....
Play to your advantages. Use your skill to their full potential. Dont presume you know what the wizard class "should" be like.
You reffer to pvp alot. once again use your skill set. If your standing around in town lookin for fight your on the wrong class if you get attacked whilst out hunting and you got a set of pets your gonna do some damage
Not if Lightning is the spell buffed, because of the new mob AI this isn't anywhere as efficient any more.
IceStorm is a joke atm in terms of damage but I like Xele's idea of making the middle square hit a lot of damage, rather than all the squares. Rewards precision.
been totally honest from a wizards point of view , as I made a thread complaining about wizzys early on myself. My opinion is now changed as im higher level. They seem OK, AI is very annoying in noob places but can get round it.
Pets-REALLY annoying you tame them (which takes ages) to have them untame after a hour and a bit!!!. then they bloody die when trying to re-tame. which is annoying when u just took a hour getting 5x lvl7 pets.
DROPS- Only reason im getting bored fast with game tbh. I think they need looking at- noob **** dropping in past bichon, and even then its rare for a amber necklace.. Fox cave doesn't seem to even drop hp/mp pots! Nothing!
Other than that, game is mint)
Pets-REALLY annoying you tame them (which takes ages) to have them untame after a hour and a bit!!!. then they bloody die when trying to re-tame. which is annoying when u just took a hour getting 5x lvl7 pets.
DROPS- Only reason im getting bored fast with game tbh. I think they need looking at- noob **** dropping in past bichon, and even then its rare for a amber necklace.. Fox cave doesn't seem to even drop hp/mp pots! Nothing!
Other than that, game is mint
)been totally honest from a wizards point of view , as I made a thread complaining about wizzys early on myself. My opinion is now changed as im higher level. They seem OK, AI is very annoying in noob places but can get round it.
Pets-REALLY annoying you tame them (which takes ages) to have them untame after a hour and a bit!!!. then they bloody die when trying to re-tame. which is annoying when u just took a hour getting 5x lvl7 pets.
DROPS- Only reason im getting bored fast with game tbh. I think they need looking at- noob **** dropping in past bichon, and even then its rare for a amber necklace.. Fox cave doesn't seem to even drop hp/mp pots! Nothing!
Other than that, game is mint
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This guy knows what he is talking about in the first sentence that early game he thought they sucked but now they're ok because he probably has better kit.
Can somebody please tell me what happens when people start getting 45+ and they're taming FT/CS/Khaz and they're lvl7.. wizzys will then become unstoppable because people will no doubt have FF by then..so imagine being able to logout with a FT/CS/Khaz and logging back in with it how unfair is that?
People are bitching and moaning about taking 1-3 hours to tame and level their pets but once that's been done you have the pets all together and they're already leveled so you only need to tame them again which takes what 10 mins max.. so because of the initial hardship of getting the pets you want to have them forever.. SIMPLE SOLUTION IF YOU KEEP GETTING DISCONNECTED....... PICK ANOTHER CLASS.
Imagine if a warrior came on here and said it sucks because I can't level properly or hunt efficiently without TDB can you please lower it or make is a spell u get when you first start, everybody would be flaming saying pick another class or put up with it. There are 5 classes to choose from and if you don't like the way wizzys have always been then pick a different class.. if you want better dmg at pvp/pve then pick an archer. If you want to be able to tank at PVP/PVE pick a warrior. If you want to be able to level faster then any other class but sacrifice your PVP skills then stick with a wizz and if you want the best of every world pick a tao.. problem solved.
Wizz clearly need some looking into they are without a doubt the weakest class in pvp, yes they lvl fast but not incredibly faster than the other class, look at the top 10 4 are wiz, rest are other classes.
1. Give us back our ability to lvl effectively with FW+lighting this is FUNDAMENTAL part of being a wiz and gives us a solo lvling option.
2.Magic shield Is piss poor I just got it lvl 3 and it lasts 25 sec without being hit at all with 30 MC surely this Is a Bug? noticed hardly any diff in it from lvl 2 to lvl 3, also their is a horrible split second delay when casting like it gets stuck at the top when fully cast its weird hard to explain it.
3. I Cudnt Give a Rats about Wizz pets you can remove them for all I Care Im Wiz not A Tao I shud not hav to rely on pets to solo lvl, boost our skills this is not a Discussion about pets.
Oh joy everything is good now my frost crunch does 33hp instead of just 30 and slows 1/15 such a useful skill ^_^
1. Give us back our ability to lvl effectively with FW+lighting this is FUNDAMENTAL part of being a wiz and gives us a solo lvling option.
2.Magic shield Is piss poor I just got it lvl 3 and it lasts 25 sec without being hit at all with 30 MC surely this Is a Bug? noticed hardly any diff in it from lvl 2 to lvl 3, also their is a horrible split second delay when casting like it gets stuck at the top when fully cast its weird hard to explain it.
3. I Cudnt Give a Rats about Wizz pets you can remove them for all I Care Im Wiz not A Tao I shud not hav to rely on pets to solo lvl, boost our skills this is not a Discussion about pets.
Oh joy everything is good now my frost crunch does 33hp instead of just 30 and slows 1/15 such a useful skill ^_^
This is the main reason behind me not playing this Server.
I only play wizzard's i knew from the start they would be nothing like they were on Mir 2 / Mir 3. They are nerfed.
People seem to think a high level wizard shouldn't be able to kill most things.. a high level tao can also kill most things. a high level warrior can up to a point but then are only good as a wall or tanking ability.
This is why i miss Mir3, In pvp it was all about high mc and crit.
I only play wizzard's i knew from the start they would be nothing like they were on Mir 2 / Mir 3. They are nerfed.
People seem to think a high level wizard shouldn't be able to kill most things.. a high level tao can also kill most things. a high level warrior can up to a point but then are only good as a wall or tanking ability.
This is why i miss Mir3, In pvp it was all about high mc and crit.
everyone whinging about wizz pets, be thankful you can get the frogs, originally best pets were maggs and tongs, preferred maggs because they were faster. This was on original euro, where it was hard to make cash in the beginning, and after tongs (aside from moths which had no hp) you had to wait til lvl40 for venoms, and they rocked, was killing lvl40+ warriors in like 2 seconds with 5! But, and it's always been but, the higher lvl pets always were a bugger to find and tame. People moaning 'i don't care about pets' well listen up, you play your class to the strengths that the server allows, currently with gold tight and mc low, pets are the best moneymaking/lvling thing to do.. As it is you guys have it infinately easier, the amount of frogs and keks I see being tamed seems like they are easier to tame than most servers. Also you have ants which take you on from tongs..
The point of playing this server is that you want to be successful and gain nice level and kit, well it's a case of adapting your strategy to the server, why should the server adapt to you?
The point of playing this server is that you want to be successful and gain nice level and kit, well it's a case of adapting your strategy to the server, why should the server adapt to you?
I thought the idea that most appealed to people in mir, was the strong balance of classes ie if paired together all classes should have a fair chance against each other, all classes have their advances and disses but it should be the users skill that finalizes it, im sure i read that sam said wiz would not beat war with pots lol...
you heard it here folks lol
idea of mir ruined lol, lets add another class though :P
you heard it here folks lol
idea of mir ruined lol, lets add another class though :P
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Mir has never been even odds 1 on 1. Not sure what you been playing these past 15 years.
Yup iv lvled a wiz to 38 so far and I just feel like they have taken away everything good and fun about being a wiz on here, hell even magic shield is not the same has awful casting and lasts 25 secs at lv 3.
I bet that if half of the people who are complaining got FF they wouldn't be complaining.. I think people are just too used to private servers that give everything from the get go and now they've got to work a little harder like you used to on Euro they're not happy and want it easier. That applies to all classes from Euro/USA. The server has been out almost a month and the server has just started so why make changes that will need to be altered again in another month.
What a load of tripe wizz were infinitely better on euro than here we could do fw+lightning solo lvling we had a better magic shield, we cud bolt bosses over walls and many other things, the fact of the matter Is 90% of ppl on these threads saying wiz are fine DONT PLAY wiz, If you did to lvl 40 you would see how handicapped and just not enjoyable to play on this server, a lvl 42 wiz cannot kill a lvl 32 Warr how can anyone think this is right???
Blizz, your a failed wiz your not allowed to comment on how wiz need to be balanced you Got Wzz to lvl 30 and gave up cos u said they are **** speaks for itself.
I actually got my wizz to 31 and could of easily gone above and beyond but I got bored with my Wizz and went back to my Sin because I enjoyed playing my sin more, not because I was unhappy with the dmg output or anything. I thought the leveling pace and everything else was fine just not as much fun as a Sin.. They have improved the monsters AI not how wizzys play the game which is a big difference..
you right....
A wizard cannot out right kill a warrior running around potting......... no denying it your 100% right!!!!......Especially with auto pots, no chance of someone forgetting to pot either...
but to be honest no class will die while running around potting....
But a good wiz will always win the fight over time and make there opponent TT / Giveup.
all I can say is...... learn to play?
If im level 26 and can make a warrior with TDB, TT after kiting him around for 10 mins, then you must be doing something wrong..
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