What are devs doing to improve QOL for wizards?

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A single wiz is never going to beat a warrior who is potting... They never have 1v1...

My opinions "..."
Wizard v Warrior: "..." fbang/icestorm "..." 6/7 out of 10 for wizards if in a fair non potting pvp.

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What a load of tripe wizz were infinitely better on euro than here we could do fw+lightning solo lvling we had a better magic shield, we cud bolt bosses over walls and many other things, the fact of the matter Is 90% of ppl on these threads saying wiz are fine DONT PLAY wiz, If you did to lvl 40 you would see how handicapped and just not enjoyable to play on this server, a lvl 42 wiz cannot kill a lvl 32 Warr how can anyone think this is right???


Blizz, your a failed wiz your not allowed to comment on how wiz need to be balanced you Got Wzz to lvl 30 and gave up cos u said they are **** speaks for itself.


and again, you seem to be looking back at euro like it was so amazing.. I played a wizz til lvl40, at the time an mc of 40+ was considered good, what mc have you got currently? bet it's similar, if that is the case even at lvl40 f wall didn't hit hard at all, I really don't understand why you are whinging so bad. Change the way you play or stop playing, it's so blatantly obvious you are well used to having mc 70+ within a week, and now you're moaning. People are already getting redmoon swords, why not get one of them with a group? mc 10-3, that'd be the first thing I would be after as a wizz. This server is different for wizzs, get over it or stop playing, it really is that simple.
 

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What a load of tripe wizz were infinitely better on euro than here we could do fw+lightning solo lvling we had a better magic shield, we cud bolt bosses over walls and many other things, the fact of the matter Is 90% of ppl on these threads saying wiz are fine DONT PLAY wiz, If you did to lvl 40 you would see how handicapped and just not enjoyable to play on this server, a lvl 42 wiz cannot kill a lvl 32 Warr how can anyone think this is right???
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The same way warriors are useless until 32+ wizzys just have to wait a lil longer as they generally lvl faster.Its alright wizzys saying they suck now in shop kit etc but once they start getting flamedisrup, mirroring(which FD's) flamefield, bliz, met etc etc none would be complaining. Its funny wizzy's are complaining about frostcrunch and thats simply down to it slowing too much from the beginning so that *spoilt* wizzys into believing they are hard done by now it has been nerfed.

Stop comparing yourselves to the DPS of a archers single hit spells and realize once flamedisruptor+ and decent mc gear come into play theres gonna be a massive shift in power.
 

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The same way warriors are useless until 32+ wizzys just have to wait a lil longer as they generally lvl faster.Its alright wizzys saying they suck now in shop kit etc but once they start getting flamedisrup, mirroring(which FD's) flamefield, bliz, met etc etc none would be complaining. Its funny wizzy's are complaining about frostcrunch and thats simply down to it slowing too much from the beginning so that *spoilt* wizzys into believing they are hard done by now it has been nerfed.

Stop comparing yourselves to the DPS of a archers single hit spells and realize once flamedisruptor+ and decent mc gear come into play theres gonna be a massive shift in power.

A single wiz is never going to beat a warrior who is potting... They never have 1v1...

My opinions "..."
Wizard v Warrior: "..." fbang/icestorm "..." 6/7 out of 10 for wizards if in a fair non potting pvp.

Sam
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The same way warriors are useless until 32+ wizzys just have to wait a lil longer as they generally lvl faster.Its alright wizzys saying they suck now in shop kit etc but once they start getting flamedisrup, mirroring(which FD's) flamefield, bliz, met etc etc none would be complaining. Its funny wizzy's are complaining about frostcrunch and thats simply down to it slowing too much from the beginning so that *spoilt* wizzys into believing they are hard done by now it has been nerfed.

Stop comparing yourselves to the DPS of a archers single hit spells and realize once flamedisruptor+ and decent mc gear come into play theres gonna be a massive shift in power.

That's the thing, I'm thinking when they release the new content, all the 'rares' now will all become relatively normal drops, and there will be a new set of rares to be looking for. You are completely right though, people are moaning about a class that hasn't even achieved half it's MC potential yet or gained it's most powerful spells, but hell, it's been a month and I'm not superman yet so something must be wrong. The awesome effect of poorly thought out private servers on the expectations of mir-players.
 

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That's the thing, I'm thinking when they release the new content, all the 'rares' now will all become relatively normal drops, and there will be a new set of rares to be looking for. You are completely right though, people are moaning about a class that hasn't even achieved half it's MC potential yet or gained it's most powerful spells, but hell, it's been a month and I'm not superman yet so something must be wrong. The awesome effect of poorly thought out private servers on the expectations of mir-players.


A single wiz is never going to beat a warrior who is potting... They never have 1v1...

My opinions "..."
Wizard v Warrior: "..." fbang/icestorm "..." 6/7 out of 10 for wizards if in a fair non potting pvp.

Sam
MC or Powerful Spells are useless VS what Sam said.

But a good wiz will always win the fight over time and make there opponent TT / Giveup.
Even he agreed here. ^_^
 
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MC or Powerful Spells are useless VS what Sam said.


Even he agreed here. ^_^

look bud I'm not even sure what you are talking about, whatever sam said it was more than likely about low mc wizzes without ff, EVERYONE knows with lvl3 ff and a decent mc, wizz do like 200+ hp per hit, you're telling me a warrior will out pot that? The more serious issue is the slots on items and how a wizz may be able to boost his hp significantly. I have to give you the award though, you know the one.. the most pointless posts demonstrating you're a muppet award.
 

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funny, as a wizard, I login, and go straight to get pet's..cause without them I can't level solo, it's mind boggling boring t bolting 1 mob slowly cause thats all i can do unless I go to a low level cave like bc..pointless being a wiz if you can't level with the skills given to you

This is fine so long as you are planning on playing for a few hours straight. Nowadays a lot of people grab 30 min here an there. I wish I had gone tao so least I could have afkd in sz I between active times. Wiz should be able to function without pets.
 

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The responses on this thread are why I stayed away from LOMCN for so long so many biased wizzy bashing comments on here, mainly from people im guessing don't even play a wiz on here and wont because they know they are lacking compared to the other classes, what is with all the wiz hating exactly??

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look bud I'm not even sure what you are talking about, whatever sam said it was more than likely about low mc wizzes without ff, EVERYONE knows with lvl3 ff and a decent mc, wizz do like 200+ hp per hit, you're telling me a warrior will out pot that? The more serious issue is the slots on items and how a wizz may be able to boost his hp significantly. I have to give you the award though, you know the one.. the most pointless posts demonstrating you're a muppet award.

This is not about Rare sells like FF exactly how many wiz are going to be able to get their hands on flame field? looks like its going to be incredibly rare, all we want wiz to be is able to compete with other classes in pvp using our standard skill set and I don't mean dealing huge damages just enough to actually worry the other classes atm I throw spells at any class they laugh at the damage it is about 30hp a hit completely useless.
 

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mate, you tried playing warrior? where you compete with 2 other classes for the same items.. also, you hit like 40 damage max from 23 -32, sure when you get tdb yeah you can hit 2x 40 lol, but what are the chances of significantly upping dc? none really, so talk all you like about how wizz have it so bad, everyone is struggling, just most of us don't feel the need to come a moan every 2 mins.. when you consider you can get a redmoon sword which gives equivalent stats to lvl40 weapon.. yet for a warrior it's not even a mace.. you see? we can all moan, some of us just choose to get on with it.
 

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Ok, il say it in a diferent way and maybe ul understand.
EVERYONE knows with lvl3 ff and a decent mc, wizz do like 200+ hp per hit
you're telling me a warrior will out pot that?
A single wiz is never going to beat a warrior who is potting... They never have 1v1...
Sam
Tip of the day: Spam SunPotion(M) :P

Wizard v Warrior: "..." fbang/icestorm "..." 6/7 out of 10 for wizards if in a fair non potting pvp.
Sam
You tell me in a pvp 1vs1 , wiz vs war , no potions involved , wiz spaming FireBang or IceStorm(meaning never missing) and runing like a ranged wiz would do, should a wiz ever lose ?
Unless damage done would be less then hp regen.

Thats why i said:
"MC or Powerful Spells are useless VS what Sam said."

The more serious issue is the slots on items and how a wizz may be able to boost his hp significantly.
220 hp coupled with shield maybe, even so wiz loses alot of MC(11), its kinda fair trade.

I enjoy doing this more then playing mir ^_^

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I give up trying to get through to you.. you can quote someone out of context all day. if sam comes on here I'm fairly positive he'll be the first one to say a high mc wizz with ff will easily kill a potting warrior. I think tbh english isn't your first language, in which case fair play for trying, if you are from the UK, shame on you :(
 

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I give up trying to get through to you.. you can quote someone out of context all day. if sam comes on here I'm fairly positive he'll be the first one to say a high mc wizz with ff will easily kill a potting warrior. I think tbh english isn't your first language, in which case fair play for trying, if you are from the UK, shame on you :(

You need glasses or your realy bad at reading. If your from UK, shame on you. (Never means never, no mather what MC)


I enjoy doing this more then playing mir ^_^

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You need glasses or your realy bad at reading. If your from UK, shame on you. (Never means never, no mather what MC)


I enjoy doing this more then playing mir ^_^

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yes well done, but the bit about 'quoting out of context' seems too advanced for you.. enjoy your victory :)
 

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Sure I have a better means to test these things, but in addition everything filters through me, so I need to balance my time, the more you can provide the more focus can be spent on correcting the issue(s) rather than figuring out where they are...

So I guess it would be good to understand where/which class you guys are feeling the most pain against... And I think the only way you can attempt to make a fair judgement is a pvp contest with no pots... A single wiz is never going to beat a warrior who is potting... They never have 1v1...

My opinions off the top of my head how I think pvp with a wizard should pan out (baring in mind no pots):
Wizard v Warrior: Wizard should win with enough time, chuck a cheeky, fbang/icestorm/firewall down to slow the warrior, and FC/FD, if the warrior is skilled enough he will be ShoulderDashing/BA'ing to try and catch you, not senselessly chasing the wiz in hope to get a lucky tdb (#warsgotlazy). 6/7 out of 10 for wizards if in a fair non potting pvp.

Wizard v Taoist: I see this as being an unlucky one for wizards... as a Tao with two pets, specially Deva equates to a tough time for a wizard, however, a good enough wizard can TU their pets, keep mirroring out to slow the tao... But to what end? a Tao will just heal up and start over... 9/10 for taoists.

Wizard v Sin: I see this is being relatively fair... and Sins giving wizards a bit more of a run for their money than warriors as 1 wizards wont be able to slow down a sin with swift feet and two sins can get lucky shadow steps to them... However the mechanics of the pvp is the same, run and lay down some mass spells, using a single type spell against a sin is going to land you on the floor (you won't have much time to miss). 5/10 for wizards...

Archer v Wizard: This is where I could potentially see a problem, however, archer has a lot less defense than a wizard with shield, but does make up for it in damage... I see an archer winning this one more often than a wizard maybe 8/10 for Archers....

This has ended up being the mad brain dump of a crazy scientist, sorry.

Sam

yes well done, but the bit about 'quoting out of context' seems too advanced for you.. enjoy your victory :)

So tell me what was out of context ? i just filtered to be easy on everyones eyes.
Read here if u dont understand what quoting out of context means.
Anyone, with just a click can jump strait to his post.

Thats all for today ... watching amovie.


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So tell me what was out of context ? i just filtered to be easy on everyones eyes.
Read here if u dont understand what quoting out of context means.
Anyone, with just a click can jump strait to his post.

Thats all for today ... watching amovie.


I enjoy doing this more then playing mir ^_^

Me

yes you've quoted sam obviously having a weird day.. you seriously think he believes a top mc wizz with ff won't be able to beat a potting warrior? If he does he's insane, perhaps that's what you've been trying to make a point of? Either way, we all know it isn't the case so why are you carrying this on? Not sure really, but finding you slightly nuts tbh.
 

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So when are Wizz going to get some looking into?? Normal mobs AI is STILL the SAME just give us this one thing ability the line up mobs to kill with FW+lightning and 90% of wiz will be happy this is a fundamental part of playing a wiz and it has been taken away on this server plz change it!
 

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Why should wiz be the fastest easiest to level on every mir server ever? Many other servers wiz outnumber the rest of the classes. To me this means wiz were never really balanced. (euro staff didn't/couldn't/weren't allowed to do much)
Mir isn't about PvP single combat. Why do people go on about it so much. Its group fights in caves with mobs that matter. Not whether a war can out pot a wiz who has FF.
Many other factors, speed, levels, items. But mostly speed.
 

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Wizards QOL? Dude, It's already the flipping richest & fastest leveling class on the server, and when used properly one of the most dangerous in PvP - and that's before they've even tamed pets.


The only genuine problems with Wizards that I can see is the 1.5 second global cooldown, that's screwing over Taoists as well - I don't know if it affects Archers or not, but I really feel it on my Taoist & the topped off with the inability to run after casting, cast a spell and pray to christ that the warrior chasing you isn't one of the turbo powered.


The only class I feel sorry for right now are Archers & Taoists.

Archers can still hold there own and are irritating in PvP - but they have no unique selling point, extremely slow to level, and pretty much boring as fook, especially now StaticShot has gone from a mesmerizing high speed bouncing animation to a "**** me this is just really slow n boring to watch now"

Taoists are still the slowest leveling, but atleast we have plenty of skills etc to keep us entertained... and we have our roles in PvP, while currently not a very important role the time will come when have Curse/Poison Cloud/Reincarnation etc and a Taoist will become a valuable tool.
 
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