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squall777

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donations suck, every1 agrees.

stop going on about it, its not gunna stop it.

/gw

Every1 would like a server constantly updated etc that would last 10yrs without donations.So no need to point the obvious.

Im just saying they aint as bad ppl make em seem.Good servers are fun.Bad servers are boring.Donations have nothing to do with it.
 

Toddwhite

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Yeh but u just look like a whining little ***** :S

Why would you make a server for free? it would be like running a pub and charging trade price for the beer, u still have to pay rent and electricity bills.

no1 is gunna do it,

/gw
 

squall777

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Btw i aint a fan of ben im just a fan of his servers.And i have never donated on ne server and you both know it.

/Mitsos
 

Pete107

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thing is, all the servers back then would go up on home pcs.. lag if it got over 30/40 users.. and normally go corrupt or go down within a month

at least servers with donations you know it should stay up for at least 6+ months and shouldnt be corruption.

well actually, scrap that as u got servers like elysian thats corrupt and takes donations :thumbup2:

and been numerous 1s like evilmir etc that take donations and go down after a few months

old servers, new servers, they are all the same

I remember Devil server not being donation, WhIpLaSh not being donation and many others (yes these are the old one's I was on about)

Besides I prefer to play a server who DON'T accept donations over any donation server any day, corruption is on pretty much any server going even officials so that's never going to stop although people may swear blind they aren't.

But who's ganna listen to me when all people care about these days is money, money and even more money.
Bring's so much joy... not
 

Toddwhite

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For a server to rival the success of old servers, its need to be P2P.

Wont happen tho as ure all dole monkeys.

/gw
 

Anonlol

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Every1 would like a server constantly updated etc that would last 10yrs without donations.So no need to point the obvious.

Im just saying they aint as bad ppl make em seem.Good servers are fun.Bad servers are boring.Donations have nothing to do with it.

I agree with that, the point is drops and progress are so severeley limited unless someone down the line 'Donates' for something.
 

Celsius

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Its not, but I just like showing Ben up in front of his fanbase for talking **** all the time, and not really giving a toss about anyone who plays his servers.

@Squall - Yeah of course, how you think I got so rich on euro.. at least there you earnt your kit, not lined the pockets massively of the people running it. Making a point, to be succesful like the people Ben loves to quote so much, you need to geek it for cash through PK/quests, and then buy off donators. A server shouldnt revolve around grinding cash to bu from donators who have got their wares for rl cash which is now in Bens wallet.
Sorry, so what, GNOnline never made a penny from running Mir?

Get real.
 

Anonlol

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Am I saying that? No..

Fact is, in a world with NO running costs No subscriptions and NO donations, FH would fall, euro wouldnt. What would happen to FH is people would level off their 30 mins off gt exp per day, sit in sz rest of the time or boss hunt, get bored of nothing dropping and nothing to buy (And with no kit bosses take ages to kill or you need to group for), and quit.

Whereas on euro theyd just get on with levelling, bosshunt when they were bored, maybe get a lucky drop, maybe get several smaller drops to sell and buy what they wanted.

FH is set up all around donations which you guys are laughing over.
 

Celsius

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Am I saying that? No..

Fact is, in a world with NO running costs No subscriptions and NO donations, FH would fall, euro wouldnt. What would happen to FH is people would level off their 30 mins off gt exp per day, sit in sz rest of the time or boss hunt, get bored of nothing dropping and nothing to buy (And with no kit bosses take ages to kill or you need to group for), and quit.

Whereas on euro theyd just get on with levelling, bosshunt when they were bored, maybe get a lucky drop, maybe get several smaller drops to sell and buy what they wanted.

FH is set up all around donations which you guys are laughing over.
And the reason euro was like that was because it was p2p, you were forced to pay to play, even if you were going to sit in the sz all day and go for the odd fight.

Difference with FH and many new f2p games now, its entirely up to you if you want to pay. If you don't, the service is still provided free of charge. I suppose you disagree with USA Mir as well then?
 

Anonlol

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Itd be easy to adjust the donation - item ratio on fh to 50-50 instead of 90-10. Youve said it before even, reason drop rates are so **** is so donations dont overflood server, well, limit donations so its not a p2p server?

It must be great for the few donators (Big £££ to throw away) and for you. Ultimately the majority that dont donate it gets pretty ****. And yes, USA was crap too.

Of course im not expecting you to admit this, you share a portion of the takings.
 

Bon

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Its not, but I just like showing Ben up in front of his fanbase for talking **** all the time, and not really giving a toss about anyone who plays his servers.

@Squall - Yeah of course, how you think I got so rich on euro.. at least there you earnt your kit, not lined the pockets massively of the people running it. Making a point, to be succesful like the people Ben loves to quote so much, you need to geek it for cash through PK/quests, and then buy off donators. A server shouldnt revolve around grinding cash to bu from donators who have got their wares for rl cash which is now in Bens wallet.
show me up? stop kidding yourself.

I actually feel sorry for you, cause its so obvious how jealous u are, cause u are constantly going on about money and donations, if u dont care like u claim, why not just give it a rest like everyone else?

oh and who was u on euro out of interest mr.richboy
 

Shank

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i do think donations suck , makes the game unfair really everyone would admit this , mir used to be about hosting a server cause you wanted to not to make money off it but now its alot different for most ppl
 
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Bon

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get over it, times changes, just a way of life

either way u look at it, facts do show that donation servers last a lot longer, and have had the highest user counts
 

Sanity

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get over it, times changes, just a way of life

either way u look at it, facts do show that donation servers last a lot longer, and have had the highest user counts

So if you removed donating system from FH do you think everyone would quit?.
 

Celsius

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So if you removed donating system from FH do you think everyone would quit?.
Not immediately, but then once all currently paid servers started running out, we'd have to close them. Either host on a home computer where it would lag when it reached 40 users or find some idiots to host who would be corrupt and just steal the files.

Give it 2 weeks max like that, and you would be down to around 10-15 users.
 

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Am I saying that? No..

Fact is, in a world with NO running costs No subscriptions and NO donations, FH would fall, euro wouldnt. What would happen to FH is people would level off their 30 mins off gt exp per day, sit in sz rest of the time or boss hunt, get bored of nothing dropping and nothing to buy (And with no kit bosses take ages to kill or you need to group for), and quit.

Whereas on euro theyd just get on with levelling, bosshunt when they were bored, maybe get a lucky drop, maybe get several smaller drops to sell and buy what they wanted.

FH is set up all around donations which you guys are laughing over.

I don't know about anyone else but I for one am really sick of reading your bull****.
Who are you to say how someone should run their server?
For christ's sake if you don't like donation servers, walk away and get on with your pathetic life, and leave everyone else to live their lives as they see fit.
 

Anonlol

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Skip my posts then asshat, freedom of speech :)

Just sore because I told you your server sucked, and it failed epically?

Fyi I did walk away from donation servers, couple months after I did I found I got banned anyway for speaking the truth (Oh noes.)

Face it celc if you stopped donations, server would fold not because of maintenance costs - because 1/ without em hardly any drops would some in and people wouldnt level as fast and 2/ You guys would have 0 motivation to pretend to give a toss.
 

Primal

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i dont disagree with donations entirely, i believe theyre good to help pay towards dedi's.
wot i do disagree with is what u can actually donate for, such as buying fully lvld + kitted out chars etc.

donations should do something like give u access to a test server with the latest updates on (but not fully complete) so u have the advantage of finding out whats where first etc. n the exp pots are ok to donate for, just think its a piss take though when u start lettin people buy spells + items + full kits + lvls just because they offer u a few £ more then others
 

Pete107

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Not immediately, but then once all currently paid servers started running out, we'd have to close them. Either host on a home computer where it would lag when it reached 40 users or find some idiots to host who would be corrupt and just steal the files.

Give it 2 weeks max like that, and you would be down to around 10-15 users.

Dedi's give the server owners reason/excuse to ask for donations.

Would I put up a server on a dedi knowing it's going to cost ME money? No.
Why? Because why go for something you can't afford on your own.

Why on gods earth do people go to run a server knowing they don't have they're OWN money to pay for the costs and expect it off other people.

Enough said.

Donation = bad.
Non donation = good.
 
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