Wiz Tank.... FTW?

[Kazababy]

Just watched a wiz tonight tank around 20 people including 3 sins all simultaneously dancing and smashing, not even using pills...

Whilst i appreciate some people putting a lot of time and effort levelling their chars, I feel like tempest and magic shield is a bit out of control, most group fights are now simply decided by who has the most wiz.

A wiz should really not have 800+ hp, a 50% magic reduction shield & full elemental resistance whilst doing insane amounts of damage (im talking 800+ crits with tempest whilst taking hits of 20-50dmg).

As a high level tao I feel pretty useless in PVP at present but i can imagine the 3 other classes all feeling pretty much the same when coming up against a wiz?

 

[IceMan]

50% on magic shield is wrong. its should be 30%

 

[Exwizz]

we already die 1 hit by a warrior with 50% if its changed all damage on board needs lowered.

warriors range spell also can hit 200-300 through shield.

also other AOEs hit 200-300s through shield.

so tbh you should really try playing or even observer someone before you post IceMan.

ALSO hells is the only wiz who is able to go max MC due to Adv renounce, only 1 in game.

he has HP on level 3 and level 7 pig. 200 on level 3 not sure on level 7.

he can choose to use HP pig due to adv renounce. shield can also be puri'd by lower levels.

get your tao's in line.

 

[IceMan]

we already die 1 hit by a warrior with 50% if its changed all damage on board needs lowered.

warriors range spell also can hit 200-300 through shield.

also other AOEs hit 200-300s through shield.

so tbh you should really try playing or even observer someone before you post IceMan.

i do play bud.

 

[Exwizz]

i do play bud.

Hells level 60 wiz

has Adv 5 pet to any element he chooses due to the amount of money he has put into his 3-4 level 10 pigs.

making wiz damage vs him useless, and he has tons of HP so clearly he will be able to tank alot of ppl.

watch a warrior or sin get close he will die easy.

Kingtony level 55 sin is rolling PokerFace level 72 wiz currently highest level in game.... i see no problem at all just bad players.

i was at the fight and seen this 1st hand.

as for the 20 people hitting him at the same time is clearly over exaggerated

 

[Kazababy]

The wiz I watched did not have any +hp on pig, he was full glass cannon. He also had 2 taos constantly spamming puri on him, all the while he is dealing 400 damage tempests or 800dmg cries whilst out tanking 3 sins all 50+ who were apparently tickling him even afte the recent buffs.

 

[Exwizz]

the 2 taos are lower level and it only has 25% working.. clearly unlucky.

 

[Piff1]

Hells level 60 wiz

has Adv 5 pet to any element he chooses due to the amount of money he has put into his 3-4 level 10 pigs.

making wiz damage vs him useless, and he has tons of HP so clearly he will be able to tank alot of ppl.

watch a warrior or sin get close he will die easy.

Kingtony level 55 sin is rolling PokerFace level 72 wiz currently highest level in game.... i see no problem at all just bad players.

i was at the fight and seen this 1st hand.

as for the 20 people hitting him at the same time is clearly over exaggerated

You think Tony is such a god lol. Hes probably is the best Sin on the server but get off his **** lol, he was stood in the corner doing **** all in Departed 3rd fight earlier because Sin's are still dog shite in group fights... Cloak was a nice addition though least Fw / Tempest damage doesn't 1 hit us no more... Going in the right direction.

Funny how Tony can smash pokerface no problem yet whenever i seen him vs GP he's just running for his life..

 

[Kazababy]

Yea so just to clarify my gripe is wizzies appear to have the highest damage whilst being the tankiest all at the same time. In this game of Rock Paper Scissors they don’t seem to have a weakness at present and just kinda beat all other classes.

 

[Exwizz]

You think Tony is such a god lol. Hes probably is the best Sin on the server but get off his **** lol, he was stood in the corner doing **** all in Departed 3rd fight earlier because Sin's are still dog shite in group fights... Cloak was a nice addition though least Fw / Tempest damage doesn't 1 hit us no more... Going in the right direction.

Funny how Tony can smash pokerface no problem yet whenever i seen him vs GP he's just running for his life..

aye, stop being a little child.

only time GP was strong was when he stacked light and hitting 1k's

tony probz is one of the better sins on the server. i have no doubts. he was killing most of your guild at level 50 alone.

but ofc the kill feeds lie right?

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Yea so just to clarify my gripe is wizzies appear to have the highest damage whilst being the tankiest all at the same time. In this game of Rock Paper Scissors they don’t seem to have a weakness at present and just kinda beat all other classes.

highest damage even thou they just got a nerf needing luck for elements/MC to hit good. 0-2 damage per eleement

 

[Kazababy]

Yea dealing 800+ damage tempests after nerf, as a 57 Tao I’m being 1 shot by a wiz aoe spammble spell. Are what point are you trying to make? That they can’t tank better than wars or that they don’t deal the most damage?

 

[SkeemaLOM]

wait wait wait so the taos were lower level than the fastest leveling class? shock

and youre basically trying to say because he has adv renounce he should be able to 1v20 cos he can get HP pig.....he wasnt even the only one exploiting this issue, also theres sins with adv bloody flower that struglee to 1v1 gettign adv renounce shouldnt mean u can 1v20 get real

maybe if lvl 3 puri actually removed shiled 100% of the time regardless of level taos would actually be usefull to that situation

anyone from an un-biased stand point who observed that **** cant even try and say thats balanced. he was tanking 2 groups like he had a pro ring....imagine he actually did have one....

 

[Exwizz]

Yea dealing 800+ damage tempests after nerf, as a 57 Tao I’m being 1 shot by a wiz aoe spammble spell. Are what point are you trying to make? That they can’t tank better than wars or that they don’t deal the most damage?

please show me someone do 800 damage with tempest Hells has 300+ MC and 25 wind, and doesn't even hit 800s.

no wonder discord got shut down.

SD/WW member makes a thread someone disagrees the whole lot come out for a slander match.

jamie can watch this himself probz already has to know your talking bs.

there is a fight going on now at snow please record this 800 damage.

 

[Kazababy]

I’m quite glad you posted this as I was being conservative when I said 800 crits, sometimes it’s 900! And I’m not joking.

 

[Exwizz]

I’m quite glad you posted this as I was being conservative when I said 800 crits, sometimes it’s 900! And I’m not joking.

record a single tempest (1 person hitting 800) until then its bs. ( tick without walking to take a 2nd hit)

 

[Kazababy]

Jamie can you please confirm this so this fool can back down a little.

Anyway this is not my point, I don’t mind wiz doing insane amounts of damage, really I don’t, I just don’t think they should have 800+hp and be tankier than full defence warriors whilst doing it!

 

[Exwizz]

Jamie can you please confirm this so this fool can back down a little.

Anyway this is not my point, I don’t mind wiz doing insane amounts of damage, really I don’t, I just don’t think they should have 800+hp and be tankier than full defence warriors whilst doing it!

i would happily say i'm wrong if i'm wrong.

but i myself was at the fight and didn't see 1 800 from a wiz.

 

[GeeDee]

Hells has deffo hit me for 750 crit with one tempest. I'm pretty sure he can hit people for over 800.

I have all sin spells but if you put me vs just 5 people level 50 I would not be able to run around tanking them.

Neither could a warrior. Neither could a tao.


Hells was tanking about 8 melee and god knows how many ranged. Was just dumb. Yeah he didn't stand still.... Was running about a lot but still. He's a wiz. He should have died.

Hp should be removed from pigs, especially now advanced renounce is in. There's a massive reason renounce took away so much hp in proper mirs.

 

[Exsodius]

Why is all the focus on Hells? GP, Poker, China - they all have very high HP. Should a wiz have that much hp? Probably not. Should a Tao get a 1 hit aoe pet? Should beckon only have a 5 second CD?

Plenty of issues here.........but meh.

 

[Hells]

i have pets lvl 10 for every situation
lightning x5, fire x5, ice x5, hp on them, i use elixirs lvl IV from market every day so yes, when u spend few mill gold every day to pvp just you are tanky.
get ur kit together, get your char build and skills together and trust me, you can pvp like me .... i worked very hard to become as strong as today
i still die 1 hit from many ppl, i have to use adv renounce to dmg for real and actually get kills
so when i use adv renounce i am 300 or 500 hp depending on pig, while ppl hit 300-600 or even 800 crits.

so do you think i am such OP class or what ? i dont think so, i can`t even damage a boss.... i have to cry to friends to get any drops in this server.
i worked my ass off at ants, i also have red horse, tiger helmet, think about the stats guys don`t judge the game, level up , get kit, get pro

also if u remove hp from pets, i just get numa set and compensate for the mc loss with sp nature 0-10 on pig.... and we are back where we started...

i also use 100-200 puri pills per day at pvp
so don`t judge me for not die lol

i mean no disrespect to any1
i may talk **** a lot but with all respect i tell you all game is finally more balanced after a week lol