Wiz Tank.... FTW?

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i have pets lvl 10 for every situation
lightning x5, fire x5, ice x5, hp on them, i use elixirs lvl IV from market every day so yes, when u spend few mill gold every day to pvp just you are tanky.
get ur kit together, get your char build and skills together and trust me, you can pvp like me .... i worked very hard to become as strong as today
i still die 1 hit from many ppl, i have to use adv renounce to dmg for real and actually get kills
so when i use adv renounce i am 300 or 500 hp depending on pig, while ppl hit 300-600 or even 800 crits.

so do you think i am such OP class or what ? i dont think so, i can`t even damage a boss.... i have to cry to friends to get any drops in this server.
i worked my ass off at ants, i also have red horse, tiger helmet, think about the stats guys don`t judge the game, level up , get kit, get pro


i mean no disrespect to any1
i may talk **** a lot but with all respect i tell you all game is finally more balanced after a week lol

Everyone died tonight 😂
 

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I've seen Hells die plenty of times lol this just sounds like a cry thread
 

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Truth is, if there was one warrior or wizard of the same level there he would have died pretty quick or had to run and attack off the back foot.

Edit. If there was a warrior of a higher level there, Hells was dead in seconds.
 

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Truth is, if there was one warrior or wizard of the same level there he would have died pretty quick or had to run and attack off the back foot.

Edit. If there was a warrior of a higher level there, Hells was dead in seconds.

thats the biggest problem.

Wizards by design = fastest levelling class, The counter to a wizard = higher level warrior to becon them. I imagine you see the failed logic in this balancing design.
 

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I've gotta be honest, it kinda sounds a bit like Hells just...gets the game/setup. Reading his explanation, along with the very little I know (admittedly), it seems like he has spent a vast amount of time/money/effort in making sure he gets every single ounce of benefit/advantage he can when it comes to this issue. That's not to criticise anyone, but there is always going to be players that just ... get it, and max it out.

Could be wrong, I don't play (in the main stream anyway, I got a little side leveller going if i'm honest). But it just sounds like that from an outsider.

Whether he should be able to gain such an big advantage other so many others, with as much effort/money/time as he has spent is debatable, but not my point. Just that it sounds like he has.
 

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thats the biggest problem.

Wizards by design = fastest levelling class, The counter to a wizard = higher level warrior to becon them. I imagine you see the failed logic in this balancing design.

yet warriors level at the same pace or even faster in lair? um..
 

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I've gotta be honest, it kinda sounds a bit like Hells just...gets the game/setup. Reading his explanation, along with the very little I know (admittedly), it seems like he has spent a vast amount of time/money/effort in making sure he gets every single ounce of benefit/advantage he can when it comes to this issue. That's not to criticise anyone, but there is always going to be players that just ... get it, and max it out.

Could be wrong, I don't play (in the main stream anyway, I got a little side leveller going if i'm honest). But it just sounds like that from an outsider.

Whether he should be able to gain such an big advantage other so many others, with as much effort/money/time as he has spent is debatable, but not my point. Just that it sounds like he has.

Amazingly I actually agree. Seems he has put a lot of thought into his builds.

I still don't imagine any class apart from tank wiz could do this though.

Hells seems like a smart player and a good pvper.

He has built it so that he can withstand all ranged attacks. He still has no defence against melee though, they should be able to kill him in a couple of hits but cannot due to HP pool and 50% damage reduction.

All wizards can do this, but I have to be honest, I don't struggle in PvP against them half as much as I do against hells.

Fair play to him.
 

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i have pets lvl 10 for every situation
lightning x5, fire x5, ice x5, hp on them, i use elixirs lvl IV from market every day so yes, when u spend few mill gold every day to pvp just you are tanky.
get ur kit together, get your char build and skills together and trust me, you can pvp like me .... i worked very hard to become as strong as today
i still die 1 hit from many ppl, i have to use adv renounce to dmg for real and actually get kills
so when i use adv renounce i am 300 or 500 hp depending on pig, while ppl hit 300-600 or even 800 crits.

so do you think i am such OP class or what ? i dont think so, i can`t even damage a boss.... i have to cry to friends to get any drops in this server.
i worked my ass off at ants, i also have red horse, tiger helmet, think about the stats guys don`t judge the game, level up , get kit, get pro

also if u remove hp from pets, i just get numa set and compensate for the mc loss with sp nature 0-10 on pig.... and we are back where we started...

i also use 100-200 puri pills per day at pvp
so don`t judge me for not die lol

i mean no disrespect to any1
i may talk **** a lot but with all respect i tell you all game is finally more balanced after a week lol

"worked" very hard? Aint you the guy who bought 200,000,000 from the Romanian gold sellers?

Why is all the focus on Hells? GP, Poker, China - they all have very high HP. Should a wiz have that much hp? Probably not. Should a Tao get a 1 hit aoe pet? Should beckon only have a 5 second CD?

Plenty of issues here.........but meh.

Its all relative though, pig doesnt have a level requirement, Tao pet once obtained isn't locked behind a level requirement. Beckon you must be higher level than them for it to work otherwise its useless.

Everyone keeps stating how Warriors are OPed, what they mean to say is that the Warriors who are level 55+ with great kit and who can always beckon you are strong. As a level 47 warrior beckon is all but useless, it either fails or everyone else is higher level so it wouldn't work anyway.
 

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Warrior in lair 45mill exp per hour
Wizard in snow 60mill per hour

lair you can also hunt for 6 hours without potting.

snow you gotta re-pot and you also able to die in snow.

also in snow there's alot of players hunting there = alot of PK.

Lair you can just sit semi afk watching tv leveling.

warrior lvling no effort.

also warrior only get 15mill less exp than a wiz per hour... thats amazing they even come close to leveling around the same speed as a MASS AOE class.
 
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warrior lvling no effort.

If its so easy to level a warrior go make one then.

I can tell you first hand its not this cake walk everyone seems to think it is. You need 116 MR for Lair, good luck getting that pre level 55 without lowering your damage so much you're wasting your time.

What level can a Wizzy do snow btw....
 

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If its so easy to level a warrior go make one then.

I can tell you first hand its not this cake walk everyone seems to think it is. You need 116 MR for Lair, good luck getting that pre level 55 without lowering your damage so much you're wasting your time.

What level can a Wizzy do snow btw....

i wouldn't reroll to a warrior for the simple fact i'm not re leveling a pig / buying pots, i'm also level 54 i don't have the time to relevel my chara sits afk most of the time. also there is so many issues with the server, i have no idea how much longer it will last in its current state.

i'v already spent enough cash on the game.
 

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i wouldn't reroll to a warrior for the simple fact i'm not re leveling a pig / buying pots, i'm also level 54 i don't have the time to relevel my chara sits afk most of the time. also there is so many issues with the server, i have no idea how much longer it will last in its current state.

i'v already spent enough cash on the game.

You kinda dodged my question, you've got to get to level 55+ and have a very specific kit to be a functional warrior in Lair, a different kit than you needed for JP may I add.


What level can you as a Wizard start doing lures in frost?
 

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You kinda dodged my question, you've got to get to level 55+ and have a very specific kit to be a functional warrior in Lair, a different kit than you needed for JP may I add.


What level can you as a Wizard start doing lures in frost?

i don't know? iv hardly done any leveling in snow...

you need level 45 to enter the cave but you wont be hunting there efficiently, as you will hardly touch them.

also leveling in there required a warrior at lower level.
also needed adv 5 ice kit,

i still see level 60s-70s die in there daily from mobs.

Also WhoDis was lvling in Lair at level 52 with his MR kit try getting rare MR items or added MR items.
 
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Lionsm!ght

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lair you can also hunt for 6 hours without potting.

snow you gotta re-pot and you also able to die in snow.

also in snow there's alot of players hunting there = alot of PK.

Lair you can just sit semi afk watching tv leveling.

warrior lvling no effort.

also warrior only get 15mill less exp than a wiz per hour... thats amazing they even come close to leveling around the same speed as a MASS AOE class.

warriors are also a mass killing class given they get to unhittable/little dmg, that they can surround themselves and kill 8 mobs at once.

You repot and tele back in, its a 5minute job, so 30 mins less exp over the 6 hours

6 x 45 = 270
5.5 x 60 = 330, still 60mill exp better off over this period.
PK u can rt away from in snow. I have also seen people pking each other in lair, especially now more warriors and taos can go there, so that cancels the pk rubbish out.

Back to the topic on hand - wizz tanks.

The point whether he has put the time/effort into this "build" is not the point. The point is this build should not be possible. The flat HP boosts are massive, coupled with advanced renounce makes it quite easy for a wizz to achieve high MC and high HP. Shield dmg reduction on top makes it too tanky.

They are meant to be a squishy aoe high dmg class. If you are building it tanky, then your damage should suffer a lot, but this is not the case.
 
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