Wizards bugged!

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Nizzles

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well they are arent they?
not much needs to be said. just doing a few testers on trainer!
lvl 40 mc - 6-40 luck 1

10 lvl 2 fireballs - 333 total destructive - avg - 33
10 lvl 2 gfb - 332 total destructive - avg 33
10 lv 3 Frostcrunch - 552 total destructive - avg 55 (highest hit 81)
10 lvl 1 firebang didnt screenie total destructive - oops - avg 27
10 lv 2 icestorm - total 401 avg 40
10 lvl 0! hellfire - total 210 average 35

i have screenshots of all of this. the firebanng and icestorm thing is a complete joke. just doesnt seem to be any difference between the spells.
whats more is, ive just gone from mc 25 to mc 40 today and there really is no difference.

all these tests are on trainer so correct me if wrong but.. no amc on the trainer.

im making alot of wizzie threads recently as you may have noticed. im just wanting to give feedback to what is wrong with the class as i do like the class, it just has no oomph.

firewall i cant test on trainer, but its useless, it used to double flinch people/mobs and now its asif everything is wearing a tigernecklace, even the mobs!

wizards only use at the moment is being a melee at boss fights and standing spamimng lightning. eshock is mildly useful and TU well bleh.

all my aoe skills do less than blade avalanche on a 60 dc warrior (bear in mind they have more dc on their tier rings and plenty more dc over our mc on their weapons. BA has exactly the same effect on mobs as TS apart from.. TS only effects undead mobs.

icestorm could do with a buff, badly. lvl 2 doing same dmg as lvl 1 firebang pretty much.

now i know my mc isnt much to rave about... but its 6-40 which is 2 violets 2 d bracers and demonic bells with a wms. i broke my stone because im the best wizz on server. (oh and because my magic shield if im in a lure drops as soon as ive cast it because of archers/ranged mobs.

this gear is same tier as knightbracers powerrings greenbead and lvl 30 weapon. which on other classes allows them to cain everything they come into contact with.

the main spells - ice storm - flamedisruptor - frost crunch and firewall could do with a buff. Fc now hits a bit better. if i had luck 7 it might hit 90 all the time!, not impressive. it mainly hits around the 40-60. thats 40 to 60 with a relatively long cast time, and you usually have to move after casting.

lightning is much better now. usually hits over 100 (between 100-120) great if you can line up 6 targets i spose,
but in pvp anyone with half a brain knows not to stand in line with a wiz. most people when frostcrunch slowed know to rt if there is more than just the wiz after them (if its just the wiz they can just stand and laugh, maybe throw a poison on you or smash you with an arrow barrage whilst ur trying to walk to line up your lightning, then laugh at the damage)

so... all the wizz spells do pretty much exactly the same damage, apart from FC and lightning.

i dont know what youre going to do with FF. to be honest i always thought it was a stupid spell and took all the fun out of playing a ranged charachter pvp wise... 2 wizzies running in and flattening 10 people in 2 casts. whats the fun in that? i ll have it tho if your're ever gonna put it ingame! =p

i do really think the spells need a massive overhaul and some serious testing to make them viable. even if you made their spells actually hurt, they would still be complete glass cannons. so try something new with them. everyone wizzie and non wizzie i have spoken to at the moment seems to think theyre totally broken. i gave it the benefit of the doubt but have to agree, they need a massive fix.

so after all that, what are your plans for wizards? are they at the top of your list of priorties, or will it be a while til anything is done? if anything? do you even have the time to sort them? there are obviously a few bits and bats youre working on at the moment, like adding refining etc to the server.

i am not wanting you to read any of this as a complaint. im just trying to give some constructive criticism and i would be interested to know an estimated date of when we will see some changs?15+ spells which all do pretty much the same damage at the moment its kinda boring. all im used for at the moment is flinching people!

so whats goin on with the wiz class? and what changes if any are you intending to implement for them? and when are we expecting to see them?

DO YOU EVEN CARE MAN!!?

/nizz.
 

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I have already started to look into wizards.

Frost crunch was boosted as a test for this.

Just so players know it's only Sam (coding) and myself (everything else) working on the server so it's not easy to get everything done and keep everyone happy.

The wizard class is at the top of the list.

Great post BTW untill the shout at the end, we do care, if we did not care then we would not be running a server and taking abuse about it.

BH
 

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I have already started to look into wizards.

Frost crunch was boosted as a test for this.

Just so players know it's only Sam (coding) and myself (everything else) working on the server so it's not easy to get everything done and keep everyone happy.

The wizard class is at the top of the list.

Great post BTW untill the shout at the end, we do care, if we did not care then we would not be running a server and taking abuse about it.

BH

hey baby baby! shout at the end was a joke. i was very tired haha.

thanks alot for the reply, really appreciate it =)
good stuff, nice to hear something is being done! xD

Nizzles
 

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hey baby baby! shout at the end was a joke. i was very tired haha.

thanks alot for the reply, really appreciate it =)
good stuff, nice to hear something is being done! xD

Nizzles

Nizz if you want to test skills all at level 3, with reasonable MC, give me a shout on FB
 

Clintus2

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Agree with everything on here!!
well except the shout i guess. although......
lmao
 

omenking

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LOL level your skills up! I hate not having maxed level spells, but I agree with everything in this post, I'm so glad it's at the top of the teams list and that you're looking into Wizards.
It's been a long while that Wizards have been so gimped, would be nice to get some payback on people who just steamroll Wizards because they can and then laugh in their face! :P
 

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LOL level your skills up! I hate not having maxed level spells, but I agree with everything in this post, I'm so glad it's at the top of the teams list and that you're looking into Wizards.
It's been a long while that Wizards have been so gimped, would be nice to get some payback on people who just steamroll Wizards because they can and then laugh in their face! :P

haha i know what you mean with the levelled skills. but with the old ones, fireball/firebang etc im kinda glad i didnt. the fact theyre not levelled and still do similar damage to the higher tier skills, shows further how broken the class is :)
 

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I have already started to look into wizards.

Frost crunch was boosted as a test for this.

Just so players know it's only Sam (coding) and myself (everything else) working on the server so it's not easy to get everything done and keep everyone happy.

The wizard class is at the top of the list.

Great post BTW untill the shout at the end, we do care, if we did not care then we would not be running a server and taking abuse about it.

BH

Glad to hear this, nice change from the "Wizard's are fine and just need to learn how to tame pets" comment we got at the beginning of the server. Just looking at how many wizards actually play is a massive indicator to how shite they are. Looking forward to seeing them buffed and seeing more of them being ingame.
 

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Just looking at how many wizards actually play is a massive indicator to how shite they are.
More like how disappointed people are that they cannot run about being highest levels and "owning" everything so easy.
And looking at every other server I played wizards were around 70% of server - this is also a bad thing.
Nizzles made some thoughtful suggestions.
Its true wizards arent the dominant class that everyone is used to and I am glad. Got tired of them tbh.
I do not want to see wizards here being as they were on euro and have been most other servers. No balancing was done on euro ever and we all heard that wizards had been toned down on Korean and China servers. FF reported as much weaker and RedmoonSword stats adjusted.
So until someone reliably reports on the wizards on a modern official server there is no definite model for how they should be.
I like that this server has changed things. It good to see differences from all the other mirs. I dont think BH and Sam are going to make wiz be the same as they always were. Higher level ones with decent kits seem to do OK.
Look forward to seeing what happens.
 
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More like how disappointed people are that they cannot run about being highest levels and "owning" everything so easy.
Every post I read from you is such drivvle, you seem to have a personal vendetta against wizards, I hope wizards receive buffs and become the strongest at end game for all the suffering they have had to endure up until this point in time.

/Xele
 

Paloma

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You are entitled to an opinion.
These are facts
Most other mir servers wizards are the highest level and the ones that dominate and there are more wizards than any other class. What isnt true?
You seem to do well despite wizards being bugged useless and weak here.
My opinion is that people are disappointed about wizards here because they arent as fast to level nor as powerful as on most other servers. Nizzles post was thoughtful and useful. Other people seem to want wizards to be the same as everywhere else. I don't.
 

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Every post I read from you is such drivvle, you seem to have a personal vendetta against wizards, I hope wizards receive buffs and become the strongest at end game for all the suffering they have had to endure up until this point in time.

/Xele

This.

This isn't a new issue. It has clearly been ignored. It's nice to see you are acknowledging this now, even though its too late for some.
 

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Can we expect good news regarding Wizards? Would anyone from the team be able to tell us what things you're looking at and what you plan to do/change? Just something would be nice as we've had to play a broken class since day 1.
 

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Can we expect good news regarding Wizards? Would anyone from the team be able to tell us what things you're looking at and what you plan to do/change? Just something would be nice as we've had to play a broken class since day 1.
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