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Ceef and Kirk used to 2 man it but nothing was mentioned back then.

That is very true.

Yimmogi has been modified a couple of times. There's no "bug" to it other then what GM's want it to be.

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if it hit as hard as it did in euro , youd be takking alot more than son rose wg and vio killing it liek they do atm

I can solo Yimmogi.
 

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Know more about what????? you stupid jealous mong... Are you thick?? I moan at skyline every fkin day about something to do with mir he probably hates me... jesus some people are so envious its unbelievable get little stupid thoughts in there retarded minds then stick to that mongy thought forever... If you don't like it fck off.. at the end of the day the Ace team have employed people like skyline to help the server NOT our guild. OMFG TF HAVE GOT ANOTHER FF BOOK ZOMG SKYLINE SPAWED 2000MINOTAURUS KINGS AND 1 HIT THEM FOR TF SO THEY COULD GET MAD SKILLS.... Your probably part of the mong brigade that would prefer to lvl in omacaves because the décor in the cave is more fun than ZT. Spacks! ......................................................................... forgot to mention TheDeath doesn't even play this server anymore Mr Font of all knowledge.


Drop files. GM's such as skyline who are forum moderators should have never had full access to such things. I mean If I were a GM and I knew this mob drops this... Would I not camp it? Would I not ask the guild to camp it? Even if he does not openly say it, he does so indirectly . No guild should have this advantage.. Of course with you being in TF , I do not expect you to agree.
 

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TBH if anyone wants to know what drops what - try downloading one of the already released sets of files and you'll get a fair idea - the drop files are in every one of the sets. The acatual items/rates may be slightly different on this server, and I'm gonna assume they have been twweaked, but at least you'll have a rough idea....
 

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Drop files. GM's such as skyline who are forum moderators should have never had full access to such things. I mean If I were a GM and I knew this mob drops this... Would I not camp it? Would I not ask the guild to camp it? Even if he does not openly say it, he does so indirectly . No guild should have this advantage.. Of course with you being in TF , I do not expect you to agree.

Skyline was in DarkAngels before TheFirm.. Also I do agree, GM's should never get involved with the game play and players but this isn't official server. I'd also prefer Player-GM's not have full powers like @make.

Edit: I wish GM can @make Curse for me......:bord:
 

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That is very true.

Yimmogi has been modified a couple of times. There's no "bug" to it other then what GM's want it to be.

So it's by design that you can hide from them and they stop attacking you instantly? As a tao I daresay you could very easily solo a boss like that.

But I thought it was supposed to be a challenging high "ish" level boss. The items it drops certainly suggest so.
 

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So it's by design that you can hide from them and they stop attacking you instantly? As a tao I daresay you could very easily solo a boss like that.

But I thought it was supposed to be a challenging high "ish" level boss. The items it drops certainly suggest so.
Except the Orc boss and EM, no boss is a challenge and I do not wish for another nerf as Sam said we wanted the game harder-now we got it (2x slower cast speed). Being able to hide from the clone at Yimm or not would make absolutely NO difference in terms of difficulty.
 

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Except the Orc boss and EM, no boss is a challenge and I do not wish for another nerf as Sam said we wanted the game harder-now we got it (2x slower cast speed). Being able to hide from the clone at Yimm or not would make absolutely NO difference in terms of difficulty.
I'm certainly not asking for a nerf to Yim drops, I just think the reward should match the challenge a bit more. I'd have to disagree with you about hide making no difference - being able to hide from a boss basically means you can "pause" the fight at any time and heal yourself up.

Of course it would make little difference for a larger group, but you yourself said you can solo it which doesn't seem right to me.
 

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First of all, no I didn't know Yimms wasn't working like it should. I've killed it twice, both times before I was even a GM.

Second of all, I'm in a guild to talk to people to stop me from been bored, with the occasional hunt. I have not told ANYONE what drops what and at what rate. TF have been farming Yims before i joined them and before I became a GM. I don't even go there with them, nor do i get anything from my guild members unless I'm on a hunt, so why would i go out of my way to tell them what drops what? Lol. My kit is no better than any other level45 warrior. My skills are the normal skills - I don't have Rage or anything like that.

I don't PK, Infact I very rarely even join in the fights my guild have... only if I'm there when it starts.

For the record, i don't even know what Yimms has dropped? AFAIK both Blizzard books were not from him, SOWG was not from him, a DSS was not from him.

If it makes it better, I will step down from GM and ask the team to nerf all drops so i have no idea what drops what.
 

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Except the Orc boss and EM, no boss is a challenge and I do not wish for another nerf as Sam said we wanted the game harder-now we got it (2x slower cast speed). Being able to hide from the clone at Yimm or not would make absolutely NO difference in terms of difficulty.

Of course it would make a difference, assume for one moment that not everyone has the same gear as your lot.

Now imagine another lesser geared group having too deal with a second source of damage incoming to them.... That's instantly an increase in difficulty.

Does the boss do the correct attack patterns (Poison cloud) do both bosses require to die at the same time (as they should)
 
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Although others are claiming that they didnt know what yims was like in euro im sure alot of TF do. Its just the usual what happens on every server, people wont report bugs that they can exploit and gain from if they can get away with hiding it for as long as possible.
 

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considering u claim to know so much about Euro, i highly doubt that. anyone with common sense can see this is a bug. iv always wondered why TF camp Yim and no other guild gets a look in, guess we all know why now "loot pinata" is on the money.

its not the first time members of TF have exploited a bug and claim they wasnt aware of, and got away with it.

and the rest. Skyline was in DA? How long for? and seeing as the Truefamily duo didnt know they were exploiting to get to these levels and were two manning OK before that was changed and didnt mention how easy that was either cannot really expect them to mention finding an easy pinyata at yims now can we.
As for not killing Yims on euro then why werent the experienced people in guild mentioning to the GMs how easy it was? Didnt the GMs notice?
There are so many allegations of things smelling a bit stinky cos of the gms BOTH being in TheFirm with all that implies(many TF cheated admitted cheating sold items for irl cash on other servers) If you Gms are loneyl and want to do a group hunt may I suggest that you BOTH leave theFirm with its very suspect reputation dragging behind it and join any other guild, go on a few hunts, even arrange them and then CHANGE GUILDS after a couple of weeks. That way you arent bored make new friends and enemies and know ALL the people that play.
 

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This is the first server I have played that doesn't punish exploiters. Every other server has blue shouts about it.

What I can tell from this thread is -
1, attacks wrong ( no poisoncloud )
2, doesn't need to have clone killed ( whether it be at same time or before/after).
3, doesn't see through hide.

Number 3, a Tao has levelled there for 8 weeks plus how can you not see that hide was helping? One hell of an exploit of you ask me.

I remember killing it when I was in the gobshite guild and I was pretty easy. That was like 2+months ago no uber awesome items and lots at that time.
 

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First of all, no I didn't know Yimms wasn't working like it should. I've killed it twice, both times before I was even a GM.

Second of all, I'm in a guild to talk to people to stop me from been bored, with the occasional hunt. I have not told ANYONE what drops what and at what rate. TF have been farming Yims before i joined them and before I became a GM. I don't even go there with them, nor do i get anything from my guild members unless I'm on a hunt, so why would i go out of my way to tell them what drops what? Lol. My kit is no better than any other level45 warrior. My skills are the normal skills - I don't have Rage or anything like that.

I don't PK, Infact I very rarely even join in the fights my guild have... only if I'm there when it starts.

For the record, i don't even know what Yimms has dropped? AFAIK both Blizzard books were not from him, SOWG was not from him, a DSS was not from him.

If it makes it better, I will step down from GM and ask the team to nerf all drops so i have no idea what drops what.

Ok, I was expecting you to come on here and openly say "yes I have informed TheFirm of the drop files" . My mistake... Like I said even if you have not provided any knowledge to anyone, this can be done indirectly... Yes it would make it better for you to step down as GM and have the drop files changed but we all know this wont happen.
 

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I've sent numerous messages to the GM's about this, it is not a challenge... the loot should match the boss difficulty, there is not even a maze these days....

Sort it :P
 

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GM's should just be honest and say what guilds they are in. People know they have got chars on the server. They don't need to post what their chars names are. Just post to say what guilds they are in and have the guild leaders of those guilds confirm they are in that guild.
 

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Lol this thread made me chuckle. I preferred it when mobs had a chance of being super back in the early days of the server, they would do 2x damage it made it a lot more interesting.

Good to see tf are still dominating this boss :) hopefully I can join in at the end of the month and see how the server is going. ^^

Re people complaining about gms in guilds, the best way for a gm to see how the games developing is to play the game as an actual player would play It. We had TD in the guild along time ago he didn't give out any info about drops or the like. If anything by having him in the guild it made the game better for the whole server since we complained about things being too easy and he could see how easy things were and they were changed fast. He was also a decent guy to have along with skyline (gz on making gm) just seems people complaining like usual for no reason.
 

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Always thought yims was left like this, yims was tweaked a few times also.

Just bosses on this game are far too easy tbh, pretty much 2 man any boss.
 

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Does the boss do the correct attack patterns (Poison cloud) do both bosses require to die at the same time (as they should)

Erm, this was never the case. The real yimoogi would teleport when it gets to about 1/10th HP, then if you didn't kill it within X time after teleporting it would teleport again, and again.

The clone just mass-AoE Poisonclouds as you mentioned, both green and red but it also damaged you if you were standing next to or 2 spaces away from it. Yimoogi was pretty easy on Euro because you could just ignore the clone completely and not get damaged by standing away from it (it respawns if it dies anyway)

The hard part about Yimoogi was the 1hour run to get there through the 4 Maze maps... (that had secret doors etc to either help or hinder you) That's why it dropped so good.
 

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Lol this thread made me chuckle. I preferred it when mobs had a chance of being super back in the early days of the server, they would do 2x damage it made it a lot more interesting.

Good to see tf are still dominating this boss :) hopefully I can join in at the end of the month and see how the server is going. ^^

Re people complaining about gms in guilds, the best way for a gm to see how the games developing is to play the game as an actual player would play It. We had TD in the guild along time ago he didn't give out any info about drops or the like. If anything by having him in the guild it made the game better for the whole server since we complained about things being too easy and he could see how easy things were and they were changed fast. He was also a decent guy to have along with skyline (gz on making gm) just seems people complaining like usual for no reason.

Missing you <3
 

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Skyline for the record you don't need to step down from a GM position, it may be wise to change your characters name however, and NOT let people who you are (as stupid as this sounds) mainly due to FROZEN is a prime example, people get paranoid, and they also start the corrupt train, always the case (Love the fact no proof was just brought forward just plain and simple badmouthing). Actually quite surprised corruption was called since you're also an admin of the forums lol.

Always the problem with GMs having player chars if the players know who their normal character is they'll abuse it, and yes I realise you'd probably want to use your normal character and still be able to help people with questions (some questions you can) others you can't. But that's honestly my opinion as it stands. (I'm only a noob on this server ^_^)

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