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CrazyBear...

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Nah, they wont do it coz theyll create more issues for themselves as per.

I'm not sure we're all on the same wavelength here.

How is removing sun bundles going to create more issues? It will allow the delay to be removed as players will only have a limited amount of sun pots, this will encourage more strategic play and it will also encourage more group play which everyone the past few weeks has been complaining about.
 

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But you quoted CrazyBear who TOLD i didnt agree? hence y i said the root of the problem is the people going and getting the programs?) you what the root problem was. Don't go making **** up just for the sake of it, you have 0 proof of anyone using a sunpot script, just like how the server team had too. Hence 0 bans.

There will always be people like that, I agree. But adding in a hack that requires so much more work to "fix" an issue is not best practise.

Get off your high horse and contribute to helping the team rather than calling people kunts who are only trying to solve a problem.

I don't like coffee, fyi

If they gm's invested abit of time they could have detected AHK,which milo has already said,

by doing so and getting rid of the players using these programs they would have solved this problem and potential future problems.... dno why that's so hard to understand for you .

here's a post i posted earlier ... this is what im referring to.


So what the gm's that could detect this should have done.... change nothing monitor the situation , collect information on who was using this program , then get the ban hammer out.

This would have pleased alot more people and made the server team look more competent , also would have killed of half of team but isn't that what would be deserved for using the ahk ?

 

ILovePie:D

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Don't quote half my post and talk **** , i clearing go on to say that the root of the problem is kunts like you , not that ahk are available.

These things don't just come up .... people go looking for them. ( Some of these people are that sad...they use auto rev cheats...)

And as-long as these people still play , not matter how many fixes they do , there will always be something else.

Hope this helps you understand ....go have your coffee.

AHK can't give you auto rev cheats.

If you had enough time however, you could write a script to make it bot level for you, picking up gold/items that you choose.

Hell, you could even write a long enough script for it to completely play the game for you.

Just because I understand how it works, doesn't mean i'll bother to write / use any of it.

I'll await the moaning that it was a bot that killed you next time we fight though?
 

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You didn't agree ? You quoted CrazyBear's post and said..

It may have been easier to fix the root of the problem , but[...]

o.o


If they gm's invested abit of time they could have detected AHK,which milo has already said,

by doing so and getting rid of the players using these programs they would have solved this problem and potential future problems.... dno why that's so hard to understand for you .

here's a post i posted earlier ... this is what im referring to.


So what the gm's that could detect this should have done.... change nothing monitor the situation , collect information on who was using this program , then get the ban hammer out.

This would have pleased alot more people and made the server team look more competent , also would have killed of half of team but isn't that what would be deserved for using the ahk ?



Yes they could have done all that, but why spend all that time coding **** when they can simply remove the root problem (sun pot bundles) ?

Why would anyone want to use a script that spams sunpots for them if they only have a bag full of 15 or so ? If so, let them and kill them when they've used them all lol
 

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AHK can't give you auto rev cheats.

If you had enough time however, you could write a script to make it bot level for you, picking up gold/items that you choose.

Hell, you could even write a long enough script for it to completely play the game for you.

Just because I understand how it works, doesn't mean i'll bother to write / use any of it.

I'll await the moaning that it was a bot that killed you next time we fight though?


I never said AHK give's you auto rev, simply saying its another program that is available.

If he have never used an AHK what need would you have for some much information about them.

I've never used it , maybe you use it for something outside of mir... but if you have never used it you wouldn't know so much about it would you.

lol ? lets stay on topic gangsta
 

ILovePie:D

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I never said AHK give's you auto rev, simply saying its another program that is available.

If he have never used an AHK what need would you have for some much information about them.

I've never used it , maybe you use it for something outside of mir... but if you have never used it you wouldn't know so much about it would you.

lol ? lets stay on topic gangsta

I can see you're struggling to understand here and well out of your depth.

AHK is a program where you can tell your PC what to do. Think of it as a Keyboard Macro.

I'm unaware of an auto rev cheat, perhaps that's just a TKO/C10 thing?
 

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You didn't agree ? You quoted CrazyBear's post and said..



o.o

Easiest option isn't always the best option , example ... out in a nightclub ... you gona put some graft in on a stunner , or just go wave your dick at a fat chick .... option A :encouragement:



Yes they could have done all that, but why spend all that time coding **** when they can simply remove the root problem (sun pot bundles) ?

Why would anyone want to use a script that spams sunpots for them if they only have a bag full of 15 or so ? If so, let them and kill them when they've used them all lol

It will stop them using ahk , but they will more than likely find something else to abuse to give them and advantage .

If these people were removed , then alot of the people that left the server due to cheats / exploits & what not near the beginning may think of returning ....altho i'd imagine the damage is to far gone .
 

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It will stop them using ahk , but they will more than likely find something else to abuse to give them and advantage .

If these people were removed , then alot of the people that left the server due to cheats / exploits & what not near the beginning may think of returning ....altho i'd imagine the damage is to far gone .


Again though, you are assuming they *will* find something else. Why not fix the problem now by removing the bundles?

This seems to be a sore subject for you, maybe you are a big seller of these in the TM and it will affect your business? :P
 

ILovePie:D

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It will stop them using ahk , but they will more than likely find something else to abuse to give them and advantage .

If these people were removed , then alot of the people that left the server due to cheats / exploits & what not near the beginning may think of returning ....altho i'd imagine the damage is to far gone .

How do you even know that people were using the scripts for auto sunpots?
 

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I can see you're struggling to understand here and well out of your depth.

AHK is a program where you can tell your PC what to do. Think of it as a Keyboard Macro.

I'm unaware of an auto rev cheat, perhaps that's just a TKO/C10 thing?

You are so petty i dno why i bother to reply...

But as i said i have never used a AHK have no experience with them what so ever, but i also have no problem understand how it works thanks :encouragement:

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Again though, you are assuming they *will* find something else. Why not fix the problem now by removing the bundles?

This seems to be a sore subject for you, maybe you are a big seller of these in the TM and it will affect your business? :P

Gotta be honest , remove sun pot bundles and you make the game alot harder for people that enjoy solo play or small group play.

Altho maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing.....

i may be assuming but history tells us....
 

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Removing or VASTLY limiting sun bundles is probably the best thing they could do at this point in time.

All I'll say on the matter.
 

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Gotta be honest , remove sun pot bundles and you make the game alot harder for people that enjoy solo play or small group play.

Altho maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing.....

i may be assuming but history tells us....


I seem to be getting through a little.

I'll leave it at that as I can tell we will just end up going in more circles, and it's lunch time .. mmm food.
 

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I'm not sure we're all on the same wavelength here.

How is removing sun bundles going to create more issues? It will allow the delay to be removed as players will only have a limited amount of sun pots, this will encourage more strategic play and it will also encourage more group play which everyone the past few weeks has been complaining about.

I think you misunderstood what i meant. I didnt disagree removing sun bundles was a good idea because i back it 100%. What I meant was everything theyve done / changed on this server they have created problems for themselves down the line by doing so. When changing / implementing new things they need to be thought long and hard about and what kind of impact they'll have on the community for the foreseeable future. Its pretty clear a lot of things have pissed people off, hence the thread and people who have already left like myself.
 

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I seem to be getting through a little.

I'll leave it at that as I can tell we will just end up going in more circles, and it's lunch time .. mmm food.

Still think they should have just put the time in and detected any1 using it tho ;)


Then the little guys wouldn't have been effected. If sun bun's are removed it will hurt them im sure.
 
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CrazyBear...

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Then the little guys wouldn't have been effected. If sun bun's are removed it will hurt them im sure.

Who will it hurt? It'll just make people adapt and be more strategic, which is what we all want?
 

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One secnd delay is it in sunpots? How many hits can you u receive in one second?

So pretty much the ahk thing is still being used but it's more cost effective for the people using it now. From reading the last few pages of this thread it seems a lot of people are still using it or atleast that's how it looks/sounds.
 

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Still think they should have just put the time in and detected any1 using it tho ;)


Then the little guys wouldn't have been effected. If sun bun's are removed it will hurt them im sure.


It's hurting more people now by not being able to out pot the damage - I'm having a field day as a warrior ha
 

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Who will it hurt? It'll just make people adapt and be more strategic, which is what we all want?


What every1 wants is a fair playing field , and for people not to be abusing sun pots ... bundles were never a problem b4 ahk .

So if it was sorted correctly sun pot bundles wouldn't be a problem again.

I do agree that it would make people play more strategic and force them to adapt....

But it would also force people into bigger guilds or force them to quit because they cant compete, and have no interest in guild in 1 off zed guilds.

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It's hurting more people now by not being able to out pot the damage - I'm having a field day as a warrior ha

There own fault for just standing there i guess.

And if its sin's your talking about well... there **** vs war unless there agility suited and booted.

tbh not many classes if any fair too well vs warrior
 

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What every1 wants is a fair playing field , and for people not to be abusing sun pots ... bundles were never a problem b4 ahk .

So if it was sorted correctly sun pot bundles wouldn't be a problem again.

I do agree that it would make people play more strategic and force them to adapt....

But it would also force people into bigger guilds or force them to quit because they cant compete, and have no interest in guild in 1 off zed guilds.

Lets be honest, they aren't going to put the time and effort into tracing AHK users, they've been aware of this issue for over 6 months now and haven't done anything about it other than this quick fix sun pot delay. What they've done is applied a workaround and completely ignored the root cause of the problem.

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make about forcing people into bigger guilds or forcing them to quit? There is many different scenarios and factors which could create this situation, sun pot bundles or no bundles is not going to change this.