Server Future

[ChaseyLane]

Hand that feeds you..? What a terrible way of looking at it, they earn a handsome sum from the server they don't do it for fun so if anything it's the users that feed them not the other way around, and surely if they knew it was being used then they must know which characters it was associated with .... It stands to reason

 

[HarryH]

They knew it was 'there' however you can't physically scan people's computers and see what's in there. The only thing they could do was change how it can work.. It's different from speed cheating/botting which can be detected fairly easily.

I'm pretty sure no one has been unbanned for either of those two offences, as there is evidence to keep them out.

 

[CantTouchThis]

I think thats what crazybear meant chasey, ie dont ban the users who are lining your pockets.

 

[ChaseyLane]

Ah right so if I donate enough it's okay to cheat is the message they're conveying then???

 

[MiloFoxburr]

Ah right so if I donate enough it's okay to cheat is the message they're conveying then???

Don't allow others to put words in our mouth. We've taken action in the past on donators and non donators alike

-edit- Others have already explained the difficulty in detecting AHK and we're not interested in explaining in more detail as the less knowledge about it the better for every Mir Server. It's not something unique to Chronicles

 

[ChaseyLane]

Well it's lack of any words the majority of the time that allows players to do this .....

I'm not having a pop at anyone in particular but recently there has been a huge drop off in support, amongst many other things and the response we get if any is very little can you see not see how it is becoming very frustrating..?

After all these things are being said not to slander the server but infact to try and find out what's going on

 

[CantTouchThis]

Milo given that you cant detect ahk does this mean the sun pot delay is staying?

 

[MiloFoxburr]

Milo given that you cant detect ahk does this mean the sun pot delay is staying?

For the foreseeable future yes, it's that or spend a lot of man hours working on detecting ahk (which is possible for the record as Punkbuster and other large anti cheat systems can detect it). We can tweak the length of the delay if needed but it's not gonna go away. Other servers with instant hp/mp pots will also likely need to do the same thing if people use AHK there

 

[DeeKayDee]

For the foreseeable future yes, it's that or spend a lot of man hours working on detecting ahk (which is possible for the record as Punkbuster and other large anti cheat systems can detect it). We can tweak the length of the delay if needed but it's not gonna go away. Other servers with instant hp/mp pots will also likely need to do the same thing if people use AHK there

Why not fix the root of the problem instead, and remove the delay ?

 

[CantTouchThis]

Thanks for the prompt response. Would removing sun bundles not be a better solution? People would be a lot less inclined to use a scrip that spams sunpots if they can only carry a maximum of, say, 15.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Thanks for the prompt response. Would removing sun bundles not be a better solution? People would be a lot less inclined to use a scrip that spams sunpots if they can only carry a maximum of, say, 15.

That would be too easy.

 

[gsxrcarl]

the problem i find with this server is we are given a new area turtles players straight away notice no drops pots etc

Re: Design direction of the New Turtle area?

I said in the other thread I was reviewing the area.

I was super tired and unwell when I did the exp before the reboot and made a boo boo uping it

Review includes drops, spawns, exp and bosses
bh replied !quote from passed thread .
after waiting a week or so i inquired to be told turtles was just intended as a levling cave ,
so time and effort wasted by the team hardly anyone goes there.
books,weapons dropping for lower levels in places out of their reach gives higher levels a massive cash advatage
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[ILovePie:D]

For the foreseeable future yes, it's that or spend a lot of man hours working on detecting ahk (which is possible for the record as Punkbuster and other large anti cheat systems can detect it). We can tweak the length of the delay if needed but it's not gonna go away. Other servers with instant hp/mp pots will also likely need to do the same thing if people use AHK there

Works the same for auto RT/TT too.

You could code Mir so that AHK thinks they are low HP, and rinse all the suns away, it would deter people from using then.

 

[kickey]

1. They could never prove who was using it, hence why the 1 second delay was introduced.
2. It's a simple fact in life, don't bite the hand that feeds you.

For the foreseeable future yes, it's that or spend a lot of man hours working on detecting ahk (which is possible for the record as Punkbuster and other large anti cheat systems can detect it). We can tweak the length of the delay if needed but it's not gonna go away. Other servers with instant hp/mp pots will also likely need to do the same thing if people use AHK there

So what the gm's that could detect this should have done.... change nothing monitor the situation , collect information on who was using this program , then get the ban hammer out.

This would have pleased alot more people and made the server team look more competent , also would have killed of half of team but isn't that what would be deserved for using the ahk ?

It's just easier to ban account's because of a character name and a few shouts tho, init brah...

 

[CrazyBear...]

So what the gm's that could detect this should have done.... change nothing monitor the situation , collect information on who was using this program , then get the ban hammer out.

This would have pleased alot more people and made the server team look more competent , also would have killed of half of team but isn't that what would be deserved for using the ahk ?

It's just easier to ban account's because of a character name and a few shouts tho, init brah...

They can't have done what you suggested because they can't detect AHK yet. They could put time and effort into this, but surely just fixing the root cause of the problem is much more easier?

 

[kickey]

They can't have done what you suggested because they can't detect AHK yet. They could put time and effort into this, but surely just fixing the root cause of the problem is much more easier?

It may have been easier to fix the root of the problem , but what about the next time you lot stumble across something else like this, fix it again and wait for the next stupid thing to pop up....

The root of the problem is the trash players that actually go out of there way to get programs like this to gain an unfair advantage and be "*" The Best "*"

Just idiots , Don't even understand the harm you do to a server you apparently enjoy playing.



And like Shaun said , it can still be used for rt's and tt's .... wonder who's at that.

 

[DeeKayDee]

It may have been easier to fix the root of the problem , but what about the next time you lot stumble across something else like this, fix it again and wait for the next stupid thing to pop up....

What a stupid thing to say

You're agreeing that it will be easy to fix the root of the problem, yet are arguing on the basis that something *may* come up again, so it's not worth fixing ?

Great logic.

 

[kickey]

What a stupid thing to say

You're agreeing that it will be easy to fix the root of the problem, yet are arguing on the basis that something *may* come up again, so it's not worth fixing ?

Great logic.

Don't quote half my post and talk **** , i clearing go on to say that the root of the problem is kunts like you , not that ahk are available.

These things don't just come up .... people go looking for them. ( Some of these people are that sad...they use auto rev cheats...)

And as-long as these people still play , not matter how many fixes they do , there will always be something else.

Hope this helps you understand ....go have your coffee.

 

[Slipmatt]

They can't have done what you suggested because they can't detect AHK yet. They could put time and effort into this, but surely just fixing the root cause of the problem is much more easier?

Nah, they wont do it coz theyll create more issues for themselves as per.

 

[DeeKayDee]

Don't quote half my post and talk **** , i clearing go on to say that the root of the problem is kunts like you , not that ahk are available.

These things don't just come up .... people go looking for them. ( Some of these people are that sad...they use auto rev cheats...)

And as-long as these people still play , not matter how many fixes they do , there will always be something else.

Hope this helps you understand ....go have your coffee.

But you quoted CrazyBear who TOLD you what the root problem was. Don't go making **** up just for the sake of it, you have 0 proof of anyone using a sunpot script, just like how the server team had too. Hence 0 bans.

There will always be people like that, I agree. But adding in a hack that requires so much more work to "fix" an issue is not best practise.

Get off your high horse and contribute to helping the team rather than calling people kunts who are only trying to solve a problem.

I don't like coffee, fyi