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Notwhatyouthink

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im gonna donate 500£ on launch

just coz i can :D

on a more serious note, lets hope this server lasts longer than someones we not need to mention....im sick of playing servers for a few months then the hitler-esque admins just running off to japan to **** boys and forgetting about their project and or moving onto better projects for more milkability.
 

Easymode

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and making stuff from gameshop not tradeable is a major set back to the players who wont be donating ? Also i see alot of people like to donate and then sell the bits for gold ingame. So dont really make sense to stop this.

I don't like GS all together, but I think the idea behind that is simply so that everyone must pay their own way ..lol

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Some of us still play for fun :) and a well financed server tends to last longer.

Yeah that's unfortunate that the length of the server and motivation behind it is based on monetary income from GS... I can see a world where this isn't a requirement though.
 

ipwnu

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I don't like GS all together, but I think the idea behind that is simply so that everyone must pay their own way ..lol

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Yeah that's unfortunate that the length of the server and motivation behind it is based on monetary income from GS... I can see a world where this isn't a requirement though.

Hahahahaha the effort involved in making a balanced interesting to play server is immense no one is gonna do it out of the gooodness of there hearts. The communities vile and never happy, if it's not paying well it's not worth it
 

Jamie

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Having Stats/Exp in the cash shop from the start is good, that's where the rush is. that's where people are the most happy to spend money to get ahead.


Not having it in would be strange as virtually every other server has done so, and its never been a problem.
 

Chriz

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I'm all for EXP potions in the GS so long as they are not extreme like <= 30% increase and that they are affordable to all players that want to save some time.

I'll be using them so long as its not a RIP off, in my opinion more than £10/month to maintain the full buff would be excessive. I'd rather pay a WoW subscription lol.
 

DarkSacred

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I'm all for EXP potions in the GS so long as they are not extreme like <= 30% increase and that they are affordable to all players that want to save some time.

I'll be using them so long as its not a RIP off, in my opinion more than £10/month to maintain the full buff would be excessive. I'd rather pay a WoW subscription lol.

I have a feeling it will be a Chrons 1 buff = 1 hour wallet rapeage 👎
 

Exwizz

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as said last night they aren't sure if they should have 1 hour long or 2 hours, maybe one of them can confirm.
 

DarkSacred

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as said last night they aren't sure if they should have 1 hour long or 2 hours, maybe one of them can confirm.

Either just turn it to P2W, Jamie always had the right idea of buffs that last days not hits and that don’t count down if you log off or stay in SZ.
 

Chriz

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Either just turn it to P2W, Jamie always had the right idea of buffs that last days not hits and that don’t count down if you log off or stay in SZ.

Jamies servers are the only ones I have ever bothered to donate to (In the last 16 or so year, bar euros subscription) - simply because you are not getting ripped off.

Make buffs affordable = more people buying the buffs = more profit.

if its £10/m per player and 50 players donate, that's £500/month, surely that would cover any server costs plus abit of pocket money for the team.
 

Exwizz

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The exp pots pause in safe zone is something they are planning on adding but might not be in for release I think that’s what was said about it anyways.
 

DarkSacred

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Jamies servers are the only ones I have ever bothered to donate to (In the last 16 or so year, bar euros subscription) - simply because you are not getting ripped off.

Make buffs affordable = more people buying the buffs = more profit.

Agreed with this 100% I dontated maybe £20 to chrons, the risk reward was too low to justify several £££'s for 1 hours buff knowing you might get PKed or wiped and that the buff counted down all of the time.

Over Marble and Zircon I easily have donated £500-600, it felt like value for my money as like you've rightly said I never for a second felt like I was being ripped off. The only draw back on Jamies servers are the buffs are too large, which makes people with them OPed to people without and everyones out levelling content too quickly making the game become stale and boring.

If these guys can get the blance right between what things are avaialble in the GG store and how long they last vs not OPing people, making it P2W or so that everyone outlevels the content within a few weeks (Archons anyone?) they will be onto a winner.
 

squall777

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Or simply the bosses/sub-bosses can have the same stat/exp pots in their dropfiles at a fair chance and everyone will be happy.
 

Shurikan

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From what i've been told and heard of the discord call last night it seems that they are making gamegold dropping from mobs/bosses allowing everyone to obtain gamegold if u are a donator or not making the gameshop viable to everyone. I did suggest making gameshop buyable with gold but with problems with botters on zircon and the risk it could have on this whats the point in risking it when gamegold already drops from the bossses and mobs. I do belive exp pots should be in gameshop but nothing more then 30% honestly im not going to be donating a lot of any to this server at the time being because there is no point when i can put hours in the server and obtain top spots on rankings without donating. People are going on about the exp pots in the game shop being a broken/game breaking idea when it isnt rly especially when the exp pots are giving large amounts and dont last long durations of time and will pause in sz soon.
 

rayray

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Agreed with this 100% I dontated maybe £20 to chrons, the risk reward was too low to justify several £££'s for 1 hours buff knowing you might get PKed or wiped and that the buff counted down all of the time.

Over Marble and Zircon I easily have donated £500-600, it felt like value for my money as like you've rightly said I never for a second felt like I was being ripped off. The only draw back on Jamies servers are the buffs are too large, which makes people with them OPed to people without and everyones out levelling content too quickly making the game become stale and boring.

If these guys can get the blance right between what things are avaialble in the GG store and how long they last vs not OPing people, making it P2W or so that everyone outlevels the content within a few weeks (Archons anyone?) they will be onto a winner.


OK OK ive read enough bullshit at this point, How can you Seriously be on here complaining about e x ****ing pee pots a 30% boost or something , then with the other hand say that there was no p2w aspects on jamies servers.........


Dont you remember when it would take you 1h+ to make enough gold to buy a pig pot but yet you could just chuck 100£ on your account and roll the tits out of your pig to get all the stats you wanted, i'd classify that as way more p2w than any amount of exp % boost as it actually had a massive effect on your damage ingame.

I'd say the real reason you didn't donate so much to chronicles is because they weren't money hungry ****s... they provided a top server for everyone to play and didn't wedge the arm in
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Jamie did the same with marble although it wasn't on the same level as chronicles but with mir 3 jamie stuck the arm in all the way to the shoulder unfortunately.
 

Xx69xX

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From what i've been told and heard of the discord call last night it seems that they are making gamegold dropping from mobs/bosses allowing everyone to obtain gamegold if u are a donator or not making the gameshop viable to everyone. I did suggest making gameshop buyable with gold but with problems with botters on zircon and the risk it could have on this whats the point in risking it when gamegold already drops from the bossses and mobs. I do belive exp pots should be in gameshop but nothing more then 30% honestly im not going to be donating a lot of any to this server at the time being because there is no point when i can put hours in the server and obtain top spots on rankings without donating. People are going on about the exp pots in the game shop being a broken/game breaking idea when it isnt rly especially when the exp pots are giving large amounts and dont last long durations of time and will pause in sz soon.

This is exactly my point. Majority (not all) of people who use EXP potions are those who just want to get through the levelling a little quicker as they dont enjoy levelling. That means they stop where they are happy and dont level for a while again. The people other users are referring too, the ones who get too far ahead, it does not matter if they use an exp potion or not, they just keep going and going and will inevitably be ahead.

-Apocalypse Team
 

bennettng5

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This is exactly my point. Majority (not all) of people who use EXP potions are those who just want to get through the levelling a little quicker as they dont enjoy levelling. That means they stop where they are happy and dont level for a while again. The people other users are referring too, the ones who get too far ahead, it does not matter if they use an exp potion or not, they just keep going and going and will inevitably be ahead.

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exactly if some one wants to power level exp pots help yes of course. but some people are completely different levelers to others who think they done good doing so many lvls or % theres allways going to be some one whos stayed on extra to get more levels in. i have nothing against exp pots on gg i think they should be. also if gg drops i dont see any issue with what half some people have said. your not forced to donate its not gamebreaking
 

squall777

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They have added game gold in drops so kinda the same thing, I guess.

Not sure what drops it though.

Yes but this can be fairly annoying and grindy and offer nothing gameplay-wise if its done in the way its usually done.

Usually servers put exp pot for lets say 300gg and then make subs/bosses drop 5-10g each which is fairly frustrating, linear and grindy. Imagine getting 1 piece of a DSS each ES kill and needing 500 to make one...

Instead they could add an exp pot 1/30 or 1/60 following exactly the same rate while increasing the "wow"/excitement factor along with impacting the economy in a positive way.