Behind the Scenes testing. Big update, please read!

[<SOSO>]

I think u lot mistaken this with a high rate serv where wizzies run arround in high mc/luck and hit *** dmg / tick of fw.

Shocker : It's not !

Use ur fkin brains :hopelessness:: they could trap/kill (solo) most bosses, lvl much faster thn they should, win 100% of the fights vs melee chars just by spamming a **** load of fw's.

 

[Reverance]

I think u lot mistaken this with a high rate serv where wizzies run arround in high mc/luck and hit *** dmg / tick of fw.

Shocker : It's not !

Use ur fkin brains :hopelessness:: they could trap/kill (solo) most bosses, lvl much faster thn they should, win 100% of the fights vs melee chars just by spamming a **** load of fw's.

They aren't though, they are comparing it (Correctly) to how Euro worked with FW.

What you'd normally see on Euro as mentioned by one of the Server team is an a spew of non damage "hits" on bosses.

The problem being this was now occurring on standard mobs.

 

[xAxNxAx]

Can u look at psn thick pls..at lvl 15 and lvl 1 psn it was 4-5 hp a sec in sc6-10 maxim..not lvl 31 with 34 sc does the same and lvl 3 psn..can u look at it or change it for pve only to not be op in pvp?.thx
/GeeK

 

[Equinnox]

As it currently stands, I no longer cast FireWall while hunting. It's better to just cast lightning until mobs catch up to you. Casting firewall is literally not worth it anymore.

Thanks GM's, amazing update - smiles all around.

 

[KillerMan]

Lol what a **** storm this turned out to be.

This is why you should wait until people hit a certain level before doing nerfs constantly. Please bring back Ben as a tester for wizards because lately all am seeing is constant nerfs -.-

 

[deano13]

As it currently stands, I no longer cast FireWall while hunting. It's better to just cast lightning until mobs catch up to you. Casting firewall is literally not worth it anymore.

Thanks GM's, amazing update - smiles all around.

The updates been? Thought it was tonight!

 

[GinkoTreeValley]

Can u look at psn thick pls..at lvl 15 and lvl 1 psn it was 4-5 hp a sec in sc6-10 maxim..not lvl 31 with 34 sc does the same and lvl 3 psn..can u look at it or change it for pve only to not be op in pvp?.thx



/GeeK

+1 tooo this.

 

[SilvaRoberto]

Can u look at psn thick pls..at lvl 15 and lvl 1 psn it was 4-5 hp a sec in sc6-10 maxim..not lvl 31 with 34 sc does the same and lvl 3 psn..can u look at it or change it for pve only to not be op in pvp?.thx
/GeeK

yes were not looking to be overpowered in PvP but the poison ticks need to go up on mobs for sure no diff here from sc 15 too sc 30

 

[deano13]

yes were not looking to be overpowered in PvP but the poison ticks need to go up on mobs for sure no diff here from sc 15 too sc 30

So come all these Taos walking round with about 20 greened mobs killing them pretty easy seem to be doing ok lol

 

[jsyphon]

So come all these Taos walking round with about 20 greened mobs killing them pretty easy seem to be doing ok lol

I don’t play Tao on this server but I agree there should be some scaling factor to green poison. Kind of dumb that it always does same damage no matter what SC. Scaling should be super low, like one damage per 5-10 SC.

 

[Exwizz]

Aha imagine poison doing more than 5 damage it’s akready take chunks from the massive 130hp wiz wasting away like 5-7 hp pots just to stay alive if it scaled with sc at this rate it would be ticking 1/4th of my hp.

Im level 32 wiz if I didn’t pot it would easy kill me 3-4 times with ease.

Lasts for ages.
easy exploitable with mobs/bosses stay poison when you leave rooms/caves.

 

[ipwnu]

Getting pretty boring now seems to happen on every server, people nerd the first few days with op spells etc then hey get nerfed a couple of days little so the peasanty plyers that have been at work have to work harder to catch up to people Already high ish level.

Just a tiny bit of testing would be appreciated

 

[mirman118]

surely all this behind the scenes testing should of taken place before u went live ? I really dont understand how you can be finding it hard to balance classes below level 35 on a low stat server.. It usually becomes a problem at higher lvls when people have high stats.. I dread to think how unblanced its going to be in a month or 2 lol. You are ruining what could of been a good little server.

 

[blah1233]

Sometimes when you see a gap in the market you release your prouduct finished or unfinished to garner as much money as possible and update afterward which is the case in most things these days

 

[deano13]

Has the reboot happened then?? I see no announcement of a reboot!

 

[Koriban]

All this tells me is you havnt played a Wizard on euro. The good old days of hitting 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 like 15 times in a row on KS whilst you trap killed it with Tbolt lol. (at level 40 btw! not 32 like most wiz's are now)

All this tells me is you never had a wizard with good kit on Euro - I'd know I ended it at level 46 with 3 pro rings and half a mir kit. All bosses AMC was way, way overtuned on euro - for a reason, because of the stupid AI meaning they could be braindead FW killed. As soon as people learnt to do this and had MC40+ it became a thing. Tao+Wizz would regularly kill OmaKing, DarkDevil, hell even OKS if nobody murdered them for it.

FW has always been wizards number 1 method of levelling until Tstorm, because Tstorm flinched undead mobs. FW has never in a million years been blocked by normal mobs and it did absolutely great damage - which is happening right now. I've already spoken to Kane and he knows what's wrong and is working on it. I get the "wanting to be like euro" feel but hell, there's a reason nobody plays lowrate euroclones anymore. Euro is a great start point and a good way to compare, but that's all it is. We have 2 extra classes they don't so at some point the comparisons become pointless. I can understand nerfing FW in PvP - because nobody wants to have to deal with a perma spamming FW wizz, but it's PvE superiority as a leveling spell has always been the norm.

Sometimes when you see a gap in the market you release your prouduct finished or unfinished to garner as much money as possible and update afterward which is the case in most things these days

I think this is unfair to say. They may have seen a gap in the market, and they may have rushed a release - but they were right to. People needed something to play and they've provided it. Frankly, this gameshop is bloody TAME compared to 90% of Mir2 servers I've seen go up in the last 2years. They take their time to communicate with us rather than completely ignore us and we should be responding positively to that, because if you keep responding negatively they'll get tired of responding - until they stop all together.

 

[dannyiiii]

if we're referencing to euro, why can't double TS stun dead mobs? atm ts is **** and 4 wizzes don't thunder storming does no damage and does stun. lowering fwall against mobs now is rediculous.

 

[Chriz]

We will balance firewall. Firewall Was NEVER a hard damaging spell, it used to hit 20s on euros at 40+ occasionally youd get 30s and be really happy, despite trying to replicate euro in certain ways, we did want firewall to actually do damage, but not in the 80s-100. So thats where our mind is at right now. Firewall should be used alongside another spell such as lightning or icestorm/firebang a bonus bit of damage.

-Apocalypse Team

FW on euro used to hit far more than 20-30 lol, perhaps in shop kit :P

I was 45 Wizzy with 80mc, used to clear the timestone PB hord in about 4-5xFW np.

Also Luck had a massive impact on FW.

Do you guys not remember walking into SW palace and being maulled by soley FW? Thats a wiz witch a decent MC, adds a sting

If you going to nerf FW, dont cap it at 30, let it scale with MC atleast so that when we do have decent gear its usful.

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if we're referencing to euro, why can't double TS stun dead mobs? atm ts is **** and 4 wizzes don't thunder storming does no damage and does stun. lowering fwall against mobs now is rediculous.

Euros double slash didnt do much at all i'm afraid :loyal:

 

[ipwnu]

Why the fk are mobs blocking my firewall half the time, this is straight up bullshit.

How the fk are people supposed to compete when you are constantly nerfing spells after people have levelled with them

 

[dannyiiii]

Euros double slash didnt do much at all i'm afraid :loyal:

Double TS - Double ThunderStorm? :S