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CountedZero

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What are you listening to ?

Me ? The Who We don't get fooled again .


Every election I sing this, and every election it's "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss "
 

Tai

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There is no point voting as the problem with the modern world is we have all been scammed.

The biggest scam of all "Violence is never the answer" , "Use your words", "Violence is never acceptable", "Men should never get angry" The elites have peddled this bollocks to use since primary school and most men now days believe it.

What we should do, is march on parliament and hang every single privately educated **** from London bridge, kill them, kill their children, kill their wives and wipe out their whole bloodline and start again.


Every single major political change and improvement for the working class has come after extreme levels of violence. Without violence we can't change anything and will just carry on being ****ed by the same people regardless of what political party they are currently affiliated with. They know they can do what they want, as we've shown them we will let them.
Losing My Mind GIF
 
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mir2pion

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You (but it is really a universal problem of the whole West) are trying to reform engrained socialism which is bound to fail, just as 'perestrojka' failed in Russia (term used in Gorbachev era for communist reform).

Politics of the right are bound to fail because they are just a milder form of socialism and politics of the left invariably fail because it is socialism. Politics of the left are bound to fail by definition.

Oscillation between right and left is oscillation between deep primitive past and less deep primitive past. They are efforts to make a primitive communal, family like mode of living working in the midst of a modern industrial society.

Leftist politics are like taking a poison that doesn't kill you in small dozes but just makes you sick. And the more of it you take, the more sick you get. Politics of the right attempt to stabilize the process of taking poison at some level of sickness but that's like an attempt to make alcoholic or drug addict to indulge only to a limited, sustainable extent, good luck if you believe that will meet with success. Both right and left advocate administering poison, just disagree on the doses, and both are bound to fail.

If I'd vote in UK, I'd give it to Farage even if that is not a way out of problems because of the 'material' any political party has to work with.
 

Slipmatt

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Not voting doesn't resolve the problem. Having governments in general are the issue, as they all have their own agenda, and is never in favour of the people, but rather to line their own pockets.

What you're voting for is a lesser of evil, regardless of if you believe in the party or not. Small changes can make a big difference to some, but the overall problem will always be there.
 

Jev

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Not voting doesn't resolve the problem. Having governments in general are the issue, as they all have their own agenda, and is never in favour of the people, but rather to line their own pockets.

What you're voting for is a lesser of evil, regardless of if you believe in the party or not. Small changes can make a big difference to some, but the overall problem will always be there.
I agree, people should vote regardless.

A spoiled ballot still counts as a vote to "other", with enough people doing this it could see parties trying to make changes that could win those "other" votes next time around.
 
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SmavidDavid

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I agree, people should vote regardless.

A spoiled ballot still counts as a vote to "other", with enough people doing this it could see parties trying to make changes that could win those "other" votes next time around.

Depends how you spoil it, people should vote for a party regardless, you may not align with all their values, but best to find the party where you align with a couple and go with them. It doesn't take too long to read up on their manifestos and find a couple of items you like.

I Highly doubt the big parties will worry about spoilt ballots, those voters are lost causes, easier to steal people who like to vote and will put them into power.

Anybody who feels theres no party that represents on any level them should be booking themselves a flight out of this country.
 
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Slipmatt

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I agree, people should vote regardless.

A spoiled ballot still counts as a vote to "other", with enough people doing this it could see parties trying to make changes that could win those "other" votes next time around.
Absolutely.

Voting, especially for a general election (not so arsed about local elections) should be mandatory for everyone that is eligible. There are countries that have mandatory voting, and it works for them.

The thing about not voting that annoys me most is that the none voters can heavily influence the outcome without even realising. But they have the audacity to complain when something happens, for example a change in law, that they don't like or agree with.

Whether people like it or not, this impacts their lives, as well as others.
 

mir2pion

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Whether people like it or not, this impacts their lives, as well as others.
Your vote also impacts your life as well as lives of all others, same as a non-vote.

If you lived in communist country as I did, you would shut up about compulsory voting. Voting today is like Ford's offer of any color Ford car, as long as it is black. There is no good choice today.

If people don't vote, maybe political parties should consider if it is their offerings that are responsible for voters lethargy. If there was a political choice that could make a difference, you'd see voting attendance breaking records. But as it is, people are not stupid to play the political parties game of a donkey in front of whose nose they are dangling carrot.
Even a donkey at some point will give up, he is not as stupid animal as we make him out to be LOL.

Watching your predicament on Sky News and BBC satelite TVs, gonna buy me a sack of popcorn and pop a can of beer, kick back and :D
It is amazing how it is everywhere the same, in our post communist Eastern block countries or in UK we used to look up to in the past.
 
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Slipmatt

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Your vote also impacts your life as well as lives of all others, same as a non-vote.

If you lived in communist country as I did, you would shut up about compulsory voting. Voting today is like Ford's offer of any color Ford car, as long as it is black. There is no good choice today.

If people don't vote, maybe political parties should consider if it is their offerings that are responsible for voters lethargy. If there was a political choice that could make a difference, you'd see voting attendance breaking records. But as it is, people are not stupid to play the political parties game of a donkey in front of whose nose they are dangling carrot.
Even a donkey at some point will give up, he is not as stupid animal as we make him out to be LOL.

Watching your predicament on Sky News and BBC satelite TVs, gonna buy me a sack of popcorn and pop a can of beer, kick back and :D
If you choose to remain in a communist country, that's on you. I know I'd move my family and I away from that toxicity.

Of course my vote impacts other peoples lives, but I would then have the right to complain if I was unhappy with something the government has or hasn't done. There may not be a 'good' choice, but each party offers advantages that are at least favorable to each person. As Smavid mentioned, you don't have to align with a parties values, or choices, but choose the party that offers something that appeals to you.

A wasted vote is worse than not voting. It's almost as though you don't give a flying f**k about your future, your children's future, or your family and friends.

You should really be questioning why no one in your country is willing to challenge the status quo. China is a dying, aging country which will massively affect future generations due to their historic restrictions. It's about time their population have a huge uprising to overthrow their government.
 
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