What do you do?

[ZoniStrife]

whats wrong with an nvq ???

i dont have to pay for it i get paid for doing it i get a day off work for col every 2 weeks i am in a safe job with prospects. getting put down for a fork lift license as well as already doing all my first aid and doing my lvl 3 NVQ in around 2 months when i get my certificate back for my lvl 2.

were as with col u have to go every day for what 30 quid a week then if u want things ur gonna have to get a part time job which leaves u with no time at all and min wages and no prospects. then once u done u need to find ur self a job or go uni which eather means ur gonna be on dole for a while or ur gonna be in big debt as well as on the dole ><

ps. doing my lvl 2 FA coaching badge next week at the rebook with El Hadj Duif which is a week of work + pay from the youth center am doing it with to go towards coaching once passed my allowence will go from 500 a year for equpment and travel to just over 700 funded by the fa so got 2 posible career's in my way to pick from

 

[Prai]

Erm, for one, Not everybody gets the £30 a week, I for one never.

And 2, Who said anything about being on the dole as soon as you leave. get a job...

 

[Xanan]

Ive just completed a NVQ course and I'm happy with it. Ive received other qualification whilst completing my NVQ like, Cabin Crew, Reps, Aviation First Aid, Just stuff like that.

Its my path and its what I have chosen to do.

Dont mock people for making a decision that has nothing to do with you.

Yet you're quite happy to mock other people regularly; them and their decisions. And i agree NVQ's are useful, but very specific in what you can do with one, and are pretty much guaranteed to pass (moron-courses). And i know im not the only one, but i stand by what i said - at least by taking an nvq your attempting to keep in work, and not just dole scum.

whats wrong with an nvq ???

were as with col u have to go every day for what 30 quid a week then if u want things ur gonna have to get a part time job which leaves u with no time at all and min wages and no prospects. then once u done u need to find ur self a job or go uni which eather means ur gonna be on dole for a while or ur gonna be in big debt as well as on the dole ><

so got 2 posible career's in my way to pick from

I didn't get any EMA, i was doing 4 A levels whilst working 20 hours a week, which got me what i wanted material-wise, not all part time jobs provide no prospects, it's just the option that most uni students have higher ambitions to stay in those limited career fields. At which point i came out with all my A2's between A-C and onto the uni course i wanted.
Then i get to the last point you made, are you for real kitten. A levels and degree's either are what gets you higher wages, or put you in a competitive industry you want to work in (or both). Yeah I'm in debt - which i don't have to pay off till im earning over 15k a year, and even then its about 50-70 a month, but that wont bother uni students as they want to learn, to further their knowledge. And even if you don't always get the initial industry you're after you enter many jobs at a higher level straight away, including the armed forces/services/etc. As a degree/a levels show you can learn and adapt, they don't teach you to suck eggs in one or two (like yourself) specific career choices.

End my 2 pence.
Gand.


(Oh, and Sawell, that made me lol...)

 

[ZoniStrife]

specific career choices.

u just summed it up the easiest way to do what i wanted was to do my NVQ at work.

uni might be good way to get places but ur skint for the next few years while there and u still have to get a job. i would rather employ some one who has been in the job 5 years than some 1 who has spent 5 years at col and uni

lets remind are self's that test are only based on what u remember and how good ur memory is not how good u do can do things as at the end of the day the way things are at the mo i am in a hell of a better position than u are. face it at the only thing uni leavers graduate to the is the unemployment queues

ps xana ur a big headed idoit tbh cant tell were u start an ass begins

 

[Xanan]

ps xana ur a big headed idoit tbh cant tell were u start an ass begins

Thats probably because your reading a post on a forums. They didnt teach you that on your NVQ?

In my personal opinion, me being Xanan not Gandi. Its fair enough taking advantage of the doll system if your looking for a job, but if your not, you dont deserve our crappy goverment. If you lived in America, you'd be on the streets. Employment makes the world go round, and pays your bills.

/Xan

 

[w00t84]

Studying for a National Dimploma in Graphic Design at College.

Work in a local nightclub on weekends for some scrimp.

On a side note about Uni and College. They're two different ways of learning, that's the difference. People who are good in exams with good memories go to university, obviously the bigger jobs can come from there as it's harder. People who are good with coursework and putting time and effort into work go to college. There's no harm in either, it's a matter of choice. I could have gone to University, but I chose college as I believe it's a better route for my needs.

Stop squabbelling and leave life choices down to the person who's future is in hand.

 

[elohelMeight]

NO way, not a vocational qualification. Still fair play to you, two of them, you're probs more educated that 50% of mir players. Haha :P


And you have other means of income, excuse me whilst i bathe in your coolnes. Seriously...

/Gand

I already have 2 NVQ's & will have a city & guilds qualification in carpentry by next summer hopefully. I know there's plenty better out there, but this is what I have chosen to do.

I wasn't trying to be cool what so ever. I was just stating that just because people are on the dole, it doesn't mean they aren't working.

 

[ZoniStrife]

Thats probably because your reading a post on a forums. They didnt teach you that on your NVQ?

In my personal opinion, me being Xanan not Gandi. Its fair enough taking advantage of the doll system if your looking for a job, but if your not, you dont deserve our crappy goverment. If you lived in America, you'd be on the streets. Employment makes the world go round, and pays your bills.

/Xan

thats the thing i dont and they take no part or have any jurisdiction over me with out my consent. and employment dose not pay my bills, i pay my bills, any way not gonna start u would not understand so its point less to even try and give an explanation to people like u

 

[demonx]

have National Diploma ICT Practitioners, Currently doing a Train2Game Computer Game Designers Course, while working in a market research company part/full time.

then sleep, GF etc....

 

[JohnBarny]

I'm on the dole, but I do have 2 NVQ's which could get me a job quite easily. Thing with me is, the NVQ's I have will get me a job similar to my previous employment, which I don't want. Have enrolled in college for September though.

Around where I am though there are basically no jobs at all. Unless you wanna be a cleaner - maybe I'm being too fussy, but oh well.

Also, just because people are on the dole, doesn't mean they don't have income through other 'work'.

If I needed the money I'd work any jobs, I would much rather work for a living cleaning toilets then sponge off other people.

Im a CIS OM (ICT Tech/Radar/radio specialist) for RAF my hours are what ever the hell they want me to be currently its fairly easy life as im just waiting to start my CCNA course before I get shipped out to Tactical comms wing. In spare time normally football gym adventure training or out on piss and odd times mir when im home.

 

[elohelMeight]

I'm not sponging off other people. I am looking for a job. But during this time, so as I have money to pay for rent & food, I will have to make money elsewhere.

 

[Xanan]

thats the thing i dont and they take no part or have any jurisdiction over me with out my consent. and employment dose not pay my bills, i pay my bills, any way not gonna start u would not understand so its point less to even try and give an explanation to people like u

Male jiggalo? Drug dealer?

Cmon give us some juice, dont be boring.

 

[elohelMeight]

Or he could just work cash in hand...

 

[Xanan]

Or he could just work cash in hand...

I doubt it, he would of mentioned whatever type of employment he was in.

 

[ZoniStrife]

i think u will find i do joinery at woodscape and i dont get cash in hand but it dont stay in bank longer than a day i pay all my bills with cash if company dont like it i can say there not accepting form of payment leaving me all clear

 

[Nightrider]

Finished college recently doing the Btech national deploma in It and networking, was going to do public services in september but decided not to(wan't to join the police) But in the end i decided to follow in the steps of my old man so i decided to join the Royal Marines can't wait, waiting on my start of training now.
-Dan

 

[Orphanmaker1]

Can someone clarify for me what exactly NVQ's and diploma's are and/or what they're equivalent to? When I was at college we did A levels.

Also I must say that uni students always make me laugh... they think going to uni = a secured, well paid job and being MUCH smarter than anyone who doesn't go. It's just ridiculously ignorant. Out of all the people I know who have gone to university, ONE has a decent job, and he's some sort of manager for the NHS and on about 70k p/a but has to commute about 2 hours each way, each day. The rest have dead end office jobs which they hate. Infact I know people who never went to uni and are doing far, far better off than those who did. Life is what you make of it, it's not about getting some meaningless degree in sucking ****.

 

[Nightrider]

a btech nationmal deploma is 3 a levels
-Dan

 

[elohelMeight]

I doubt it, he would of mentioned whatever type of employment he was in.

You only tend to work cash in hand when you aren't employed... that's the whole point in cash in hand. So as it doesn't have to go through the books, saves the employer & employee time & money.

 

[Xanan]

u just summed it up the easiest way to do what i wanted was to do my NVQ at work.

uni might be good way to get places but ur skint for the next few years while there and u still have to get a job. i would rather employ some one who has been in the job 5 years than some 1 who has spent 5 years at col and uni

lets remind are self's that test are only based on what u remember and how good ur memory is not how good u do can do things as at the end of the day the way things are at the mo i am in a hell of a better position than u are. face it at the only thing uni leavers graduate to the is the unemployment queues

ps xana ur a big headed idoit tbh cant tell were u start an ass begins

Thank God you're not the one employing people then, and judging by the way you spell/type i'd say I would probably never work for as uneducated as yourself. Yeah im a big head (as are most lomcn users).

A few of you have mentioned tests? Stop commenting on university when you've obviously no idea what so ever. I havn't and wont do a single exam during my time at university(except maybe whilst i learn Japanese next year), despite being at one of the better universities in the country for my course (before you talk some bull about it being a polytechnic.... please, they're not even real universities.) And most exam-based courses will still require disertations/lab work etc. I repeat what i said, many larger employment sectors will judge the ability to learn by having a degree from a reasonable university, than the specificity of the course. (At least i used to be like that when i wanted to join the RAF).
Im using university to further my knowledge, make contacts in my chosen field, and have the best 3+ years of my life. I'd hardly say someone like Zoni is in a better position than me, ha! I don't aim to work in an office, ever, i could of done that straight away with the GCSE's or A levels i got. I want to work within an industry which interests me and is competitive, despite not paying amazingly, therefore (like many in my case) i went to university.
If that fails im sure i could go and get myself a GNVQ and become a plumber/carpenter... As like i said they're grand to have, if thats ALL you want to do with your life.

/Gand

(Such a fun thread...)