Mir 2 Community

[NightScare]

Even if he were to release his source it would still require someone to work on it as any other files, we should count ourselves lucky having more options out there over 2.3. Lot's of people keep saying mir is dead and that's been said countless amounts of times over the years but mir is still here is it not ? and always will be in some shape or form. It's the same as soma the same community is still there years later and they have barely any updates since euro soma.

It's not about having a coder or what files you use, it's the creativity of the server owner that will make a good successful server, although having more up to date set of files with new features will attract players in the short term.

, doesnt matter how creative you are, you cant make a balanced server with curse that last 600mintues, firewall that lasts 600minutes, and TDB that cuts straight through AC. the simple fact is the files atm are way to Unbalanced for anyway to make anything decent, they'd be constantly plauged with balanceing issues.

and that's just 2.3 files.

Ruby doesnt have variables working, i'd love to see u get creative without being able to save things, limits u to doing, mhm **** all. (tho apart from that, i cant see anything majorly wrong with them, it just costs more to host these as u have to also pay for a webserver, if he hadnt of wasted so much time trying to code tigers/sin/fishing, they'd probarly be usefull by now.

Heros tdb is equally as screwed, its half chinese, and loads of other little things, actually if im totally honest, i read that TDB doesnt work, and havnt looked at the section since, except to check if its been fixed, which it hasnt, i havnt got a cluie what other bugs/balance problems there are.

i agree in principal u dont need a coder to make an original server, all u need is half a brain cell, and some variables u can do a hell of alot that most people dont realise is possible.
But i have to disagree on the files out there being any use what so ever, each files has its own crucial balance issues, which simply stop the files being anymore usefull than a piece of dog **** on the bottom of ur shoe on a saturday night.

I'd settle for simple basic, 2.3 files that arnt complety unbalanced, and have working variables, over any fancy ****ty files with buggy heros/tigers/fishing/ that so called "new class" which is just, well dont even get me started, any day.



+ td 2.3 has like 6-7 major bugs

TDB- needs fixing
curse- needs caping
firewall-need's caping.
cheats- stopped.

Done, u have a stable set of 2.3 files that would be useful in creating a balanced server (which we havnt seen since 1.4 days, and is the major reason 90% of players rage quit servers)

I don't think the Hero's files are in that much of a state. Would be nice to have a few servers out using the files like when they were first released so we can gather as many bugs as possible.

It is a little frustrating that work begins on files, then stops half way through them with people just moving onto other projects, but can you blame the coders for this? They put some good work into coding the files, only for the files
a. Never get used
b. Just get slagged off

A good, set of stable and up-to-date files would be great, but the last set of public files that were the most stable, imo was the 1.4 ones - And even they had many of problems, which due to the source could not be fixed.

Also a lot of server owners give up after a little while, because all they get if grief from players.
Some are only in it for the money, so once the donations start to dry up, they just close the server. This makes it hard for players to trust spending hours on a server, only for it to go down after a month.

i agree but the reason they get slagged of because they pick it up and leave it, and tbph i wouldnt waste my time fixing some files for this community, as no1 would appreciate it anyway, + ur not gonna make any money out of it, so why bother wasteing ur time, when u can use your skills to do something usefull, with real financial impact on ur life.

There isnt any huge bugs spot ruby for runningh stable and a nice server. People just dont take the time to learn how the files, work.

You post heros dont work? Funny we test them out today and things work fine, You posted Vars not in files well they are.
Should for us to post a update then saying someone work isnt good.

You say 2.3 you can so alot with ok but wheres your server?

tdb doesnt even work on heros', unless they've fixed it and not said anything? i think ryan tried like 5months ago, and got it wrong and never bothered to fix it.

And ruby has assassins, who the hell wants to use that?, i remember FH did a poll as to who actualyl like assasins and around 80% said they hated them...so u've lost out on a big chunk of potential players, just by useing your files.


and if variables are in, i take it back, but the list of features needs updateign as it currently says variables are not working properly.

and my server went down, because firewall lasted 600minutes, curse lasted 600minutes, and i cudnt be arsed with constant moans about something i couldnt change.

 

[Tai]

Obviously, its a shame Thedeath was the biggest selfish piece of **** ever to inhabit this planet, as with his source we COULD create the first ever stable files mir has seen, as we know every single bug in the 2.3 files, and we could probarly do something about it then

If i saw that arsehole crossing the road i'd step on the accelerator, run him over, get out and stamp on his face untill it imprinted the road, then take a piss on his decapitated corpse.

Like it or not, I think td had fair reasons for not releasing his source at the time; and now, well there's just no point.

There are no major bugs in 2.3 so I fail to see how fixing the bugs that there are would = the best set of files ever. They'd still be 6 years out of date. TD himself didn't see the point in bringing his files up to scratch and then working on adding extra stuff (it's a lot of time) when we already have Ruby which is up to date already.

Also your comment is disgusting.

there are hundreds of thing you could do with the current 2.3 files to make something different, its just the server owners cant be arsed, or just dont have the intelligence to realise the potential things you could with something as simple as variables.

So what you waiting for? All anyone's ever seen from you is talk. "if i was doing it it'd be 10000x better" well pull your head out of your ass and do it then. I don't believe you can comment until you actually go through the stresses of running a server, let alone coding files, and taking all the **** that the mir community throws at you.

Ruby doesnt have variables working, i'd love to see u get creative without being able to save things, limits u to doing, mhm **** all.

As I've already told you in another thread where you were also slagging off other peoples work (seems to be your thing), variables is the most recent thing that Lil has been working on.

i agree but the reason they get slagged of because they pick it up and leave it, and tbph i wouldnt waste my time fixing some files for this community, as no1 would appreciate it anyway, + ur not gonna make any money out of it, so why bother wasteing ur time, when u can use your skills to do something usefull, with real financial impact on ur life.

Oh so you wouldn't do it, but you expect other people to?

 

[Prai]

Bravo Tai, The guy needs a good reality check..

NightScare, I fail to see why anyone would "Run over and Piss on the body" of someone they dont know and have no motive to do so. So your comment was obviously intended to make yourself look E-Hard.

I'm all for comments be them negative or positive, but quit your E-cry and give constructive criticism, All your doing is fueling arguments.

 

[Gezza]

and my server went down, because firewall lasted 600minutes, curse lasted 600minutes, and i cudnt be arsed with constant moans about something i couldnt change.

Your server was just a way to make a quick buck as you have already stated in the past, lifco fixed tdb on heroe files it just don't do the yellow effect as far as im aware. So many of your comments are just wrong, as for using sin on ruby you don't have too.. as a server owner you can just script it out.

 

[NightScare]

Bravo Tai, The guy needs a good reality check..

NightScare, I fail to see why anyone would "Run over and Piss on the body" of someone they dont know and have no motive to do so. So your comment was obviously intended to make yourself look E-Hard.

I'm all for comments be them negative or positive, but quit your E-cry and give constructive criticism, All your doing is fueling arguments.

ya think?


you guys remind me of my missus, constantly fall for the bait.

 

[Prai]

ya think?

Theres a difference with fueling an argument and putting someone in his place.

All other comments from other users are great, getting a good conversation going here.

Dont ruin it by being a smart ass.

 

[NightScare]

Theres a difference with fueling an argument and putting someone in his place.

All other comments from other users are great, getting a good conversation going here.

Dont ruin it by being a smart ass.

Now im being a smart ass, i thought a minute ago i was an idiot? and now im smart.

 

[Tai]

Now im being a smart ass, i thought a minute ago i was an idiot? and now im smart.

When did he call you an idiot? And for the record, being a smart ass doesn't mean you're smart.

You've been told now drop it.

 

[JohnBarny]

Idiots like this should be banned..

Also for your knowledge, TD tryed to come back to help with ruby files 6 months ago but was turned away.

 

[Pete107]

Also for your knowledge, TD tryed to come back to help with ruby files 6 months ago but was turned away.

Yeah I remember that a lot of whiners and people just generally disrespecting him and his work.

 

[Celsius]

I don't get TD though, I know you all think badly of me and Ben because we won't release our files, but when we have finally had enough of Mir, they will be released here.

He has nothing to lose from releasing his sources.

 

[NightScare]

When did he call you an idiot? And for the record, being a smart ass doesn't mean you're smart.

You've been told now drop it.

Or what?

I don't get TD though, I know you all think badly of me and Ben because we won't release our files, but when we have finally had enough of Mir, they will be released here.

He has nothing to lose from releasing his sources.

he also has nothing to gain from releasing them, so he'll just sit on them throwing us the fingers.

 

[Tai]

I don't get TD though, I know you all think badly of me and Ben because we won't release our files, but when we have finally had enough of Mir, they will be released here.

He has nothing to lose from releasing his sources.

Oh babe, no one thinks that. People think badly of Bon because he's a tool, and people think badly of you because you're friends with him.


As I already stated, what's the point in TD releasing his source now? It's pointless. I don't even get why the conversation has turned to him.

 

[Celsius]

Oh babe, no one thinks that. People think badly of Bon because he's a tool, and people think badly of you because you're friends with him.


As I already stated, what's the point in TD releasing his source now? It's pointless.

I wasn't saying that's the only reason people think badly of us, that's not even the point.

There's all the point in TD releasing his source, people still regard his files as the most stable set to use, therefore his sources would bring the greatest benefit to lomcn.

Maybe this is why lomcn fails? They have an admin team which can't recognise what would suit server creators the most?

 

[NightScare]

I wasn't saying that's the only reason people think badly of us, that's not even the point.

There's all the point in TD releasing his source, people still regard his files as the most stable set to use, therefore his sources would bring the greatest benefit to lomcn.

Maybe this is why lomcn fails? They have an admin team which can't recognise what would suit server creators the most?

realistcly, the admins cant do anything about anything, there just deprived kids who was bullied at school and needed somewhere to be accepted.


even if they thought td's sources would be useful, they cant make him release them.

 

[Celsius]

realistcly, the admins cant do anything about anything, there just deprived kids who was bullied at school and needed somewhere to be accepted.


even if they thought td's sources would be useful, they cant make him release them.

My point wasn't that they can make him release, as they can't. I mean, if they can't tell the difference between things that will benefit server developers and what will just fail, then lomcn is losing out.

 

[Tai]

I wasn't saying that's the only reason people think badly of us, that's not even the point.

There's all the point in TD releasing his source, people still regard his files as the most stable set to use, therefore his sources would bring the greatest benefit to lomcn.

Maybe this is why lomcn fails? They have an admin team which can't recognise what would suit server creators the most?

Oh k, as long as you recognise being a tool is the main reason.

So because people who know nothing about coding, think a particular set of files is the best, that source should be the one to work on? Get real.. Ignoring Heroes for a sec, Ruby has now surpassed Diamond so where is the logic in backstepping? And who's going to work on td's files if he released them? The same people who currently work on our files and get bashed for not being good/fast enough? Makes total sense, that.

As for lomcn, I think admin wise it 'fails' because it wastes time on people like you? What an idea that was. It's besides the point though, me agreeing with td releasing his source or not has no impact on lomcn, lol.

 

[Blimey]

Its not the community its the fail servers that keep coming up taking peoples money then fking off. Servers aint what they used to be =/

 

[Celsius]

Oh k, as long as you recognise being a tool is the main reason.

So because people who know nothing about coding, think a particular set of files is the best, that source should be the one to work on? Get real.. Ignoring Heroes for a sec, Ruby has now surpassed Diamond so where is the logic in backstepping? And who's going to work on td's files if he released them? The same people who currently work on our files and get bashed for not being good/fast enough? Makes total sense, that.

As for lomcn, I think admin wise it 'fails' because it wastes time on people like you? What an idea that was. It's besides the point though, me agreeing with td releasing his source or not has no impact on lomcn, lol.

I didn't even mention anything to do with what files you think are best or what I think are the best files. I'm merely saying, people are sticking to TD's files, and if you can't recongise that it would be a benefit to lomcn if the source was realise, then what other things will you miss?

Stop trying to turn this into a flame war.

Not even gunna argue, keep running round thinking them little green dots under your post count actually mean something.

 

[Tai]

You're still not answering the most important question though.. Who's going to do what with it?


Don't get me wrong, any source being released is a benefit to lomcn. I just don't see the point in pursuing this one.