AceM2 is running LOMCN?

[Ali3n]

Yes. Its clearly not game breaking or there'd be immense amounts whining posts of "The servers always down", "Why is there another roll back", and "Cant connect" to name a few.

I'm not seeing anything of that.

 

[czeldabolg]

Yes. Its clearly not game breaking or there'd be immense amounts whining posts of "The servers always down", "Why is there another roll back", and "Cant connect" to name a few.

I'm not seeing anything of that.

The database is crashing currently at random parts at just a quick glance and they're looking to resolve that.. So yeah again back to the previous point of they'll release when they see fit. And a database not saving is quite a large problem. If it only occurs here and there, imagine on a small user count, new players getting good drops to have them deleted. Yeah they'd leave fast.

/Zelda

 

[deano13]

The database is crashing currently at random parts at just a quick glance and they're looking to resolve that.. So yeah again back to the previous point of they'll release when they see fit. And a database not saving is quite a large problem. If it only occurs here and there, imagine on a small user count, new players getting good drops to have them deleted. Yeah they'd leave fast.

/Zelda

It's problem happened about 3 times, and the rewinds were no longer then 20mins if that, hardly game breaking

 

[Bon]

no files are ever fully stable... my servers ran with "unstable" files. we had a crash or 2 every now and then, didnt stop the server from bein a success.

if the files were released in their current state, gives people time to work on them and get familiar with them. Gives them time to build a server then they have the choice of waiting for more stable release... or just rolling with it

its down to the server owner to decide if his files r stable or not. Saying you wont release cause uve had a few crashs (like EVERY game does) is a poor excuse. even WoW crashs now and then, they aint stable right?

 

[mighty3]

well said bon i agree on that

 

[Babyhack]

It's problem happened about 3 times, and the rewinds were no longer then 20mins if that, hardly game breaking

The only reason the rewind was 20 mins or so is that Milo has set everything up to do a backup of the sql database every hour or so (thats GB backups and needs a lot of HDD space)
This backup has nothing to do with the server files, so if the files where to be released as they are, with the DBSrv crashing and server owners dont have the resources to backup every hour or so, then a lot of playing hours will be lost

As a side note, nothing has been tested on these files, ACEM2 is running content at the equivalent of Mir 1.4, there is so much more stuff that needs to be added and tested, pvp is still not right, spells are still not right, even some of the bosses are undercooked

I watched Milo and the other GMs PVPing last night trying to get it balanced, The work the team are doing on these files is crazy (Milo gets home from work and is straight onto his laptop to work on the files)

The files will be released when the team is happy to release the files
As for people saying they are holding onto the files for their own server, it is costing the team money to run ACEM2 (and its not cheap) you lot get to play and test for FREE
The team want the files to be as easy to setup and as bug free as possible before any release is done and at the moment this is not the case

BH

 

[Bon]

The only reason the rewind was 20 mins or so is that Milo has set everything up to do a backup of the sql database every hour or so (thats GB backups and needs a lot of HDD space)
This backup has nothing to do with the server files, so if the files where to be released as they are, with the DBSrv crashing and server owners dont have the resources to backup every hour or so, then a lot of playing hours will be lost

As a side note, nothing has been tested on these files, ACEM2 is running content at the equivalent of Mir 1.4, there is so much more stuff that needs to be added and tested, pvp is still not right, spells are still not right, even some of the bosses are undercooked

I watched Milo and the other GMs PVPing last night trying to get it balanced, The work the team are doing on these files is crazy (Milo gets home from work and is straight onto his laptop to work on the files)

The files will be released when the team is happy to release the files
As for people saying they are holding onto the files for their own server, it is costing the team money to run ACEM2 (and its not cheap) you lot get to play and test for FREE
The team want the files to be as easy to setup and as bug free as possible before any release is done and at the moment this is not the case

BH

But again, all of what your mentioning can be patched with new releases.

If you really want to test the files, the best way to do that is to release them to the community and let them test and report all bugs / problems / changes. Then release a new exe every week/month/whatever with a list of all changes and fixes

 

[Violent]

If I was developing the files then I wouldn't release them until I was satisfied with how they are.

I really hope the developers don't buckle under the peer pressure of the people who clearly want the files for themselves. At the end of the day they are the ones working on the files so it's up to them what they do with them and as they are not doing it for any profit I don't see what the big deal is.

Also releasing the files and cleaning up other server owners bugs is definetly not the best approach. It is much better to keep the source within a set team and test it in their environment.

 

[NewBreedMir2]

I cant see them ever releasing these files whilst they have such a high usercount server!

 

[Bon]

If I was developing the files then I wouldn't release them until I was satisfied with how they are.

I really hope the developers don't buckle under the peer pressure of the people who clearly want the files for themselves. At the end of the day they are the ones working on the files so it's up to them what they do with them and as they are not doing it for any profit I don't see what the big deal is.

Also releasing the files and cleaning up other server owners bugs is definetly not the best approach. It is much better to keep the source within a set team and test it in their environment.

That's a fair statement, but they gave a release date, which got everyone's hopes up, which has lead to this situation.

If they said we are testing new files, come join our new server to test them out.. but said nothing about releasing, you think they'd have got as many users as they would? of course not.

If they said they would release their files when every single bug was ironed out, and gave a more reasonable ETA of say 6 months time, you think they'd have got as many users as they have now? again.. of course not.

Lets see what was posted:

So the most important bit. We'll be launching a Test Server on Saturday 27th April. The aim of this is to test the stability of the files and of course show off. Provided we don't discover any Show Stopping bugs we'll be releasing the files publicly 2 weeks after on or around May 11th


2 weeks to test stability? its been almost 6 weeks now. Giving that kinda ETA is either very stupid, or good advertising.

People are not pressuring the team to release because they "want them for themselves"... they are merely going by what they were told.



Its quite obvious they never anticipated the kinda user count they have received, and because of that they've thought twice about what their plans are. As mentioned above, if they release their files, the server will lose a lot of users. The server wont be anything special (as its not) as its the files that make it special.


I personally don't care as I haven't been involved in Mir for months now, and even thought about releasing my files and source to the community to keep it going... till I saw these new files. Its never a good idea to have multiple files/sources around, as it divides up the development, but of course I want Mir to keep going, its a great game... so I do hope they release the files, but at the same time i wouldn't blame them. Just don't give false hope to everyone waiting for the files.

 

[Breezer]

I played the sound of an Oma to my 3 week old boy, he shat himself...which was kinda a relief since he has constipation.

Oh, hi bon

 

[Tai]

I personally don't care as I haven't been involved in Mir for months now

Just stirring **** as usual then.

and even thought about releasing my files and source to the community to keep it going... till I saw these new files. Its never a good idea to have multiple files/sources around

We already do, and you're encouraging it, despite saying you're not.

 

[DavidShaw]

in 1 week we will be 2 months overdue.

My estimate is by week 13 they will come clean. Not just that there wont be a release, but the admission that 1month into server they had no intention of ever releasing.

And all the "its their hard work talk" ... We have to be realistic. They did not code this from scratch, countless OTHERS have put in more work than them, these people are not mentioned? Do the right thing. Open THE SOURCE. Shared projects only work if the source is avilable to ALL. This is LOMCN without the CN.

Its like a Theif calling you a beggar.

 

[NightScare]

Its a hastily put together euro clone, with a dozen balancing and Envir folder errors, Give it 3 months and it will die just like EVERY other euro clone ever has.



Just like Bon's Four-Heros which everyone thought would be the new euro (200-300 + Players), until they got bored that is....

So i wouldn't worry too much about "AceM2" stealing all the players.....


Chill, relax wait for them to iron out the bug's and release, generally speaking if Milo says their will be a release he will release, and maybe someone with some vision will create something decent. (Btw that wasnt a dig at Milo, it was just a "Hopefully we wont then be spammed with 2minute AceM2 server ran by 12 year olds" )

Personally i would pin my hopes on Hazuki/Tyraes and Sijo Mir, they seem to have a pretty good idea of what Mir needs to be revived.

 

[Breezer]

Don't release the files, the inpatients of this community is disgusting and i don't feel they deserve it.

End of the day, AppleM2 Source is out there for others to play with...I myself have a much more up to date version of the source but just don't have the time or will power to be assed to translate and code in things they've missed. So "and sorry for my laungauge" **** the other sever owners and just continue doing what your doing

P.S - This is coming from a TGA team member (or an old member atleast) Keep your files, we dont want them :P

EDIT: Sorry but i had to reply this "DavidShaw" post.

Okay, im in a completely different team of developers here and i know for a FACT that coding Applem2 to the state it is today was FAR more work than ANYONES put into mir...I know i know, slating my own. But **** me have these guys dones some work.

The things they've had to overcome from where these files stood is actually impressive and to say they aint started from scratch is bullshit...mearly because they pretty much have... You try and pick up a bodge job piece of **** code made by some crack head chink and get it to a fully working set of english files stable enough to support the likes of you... You couldn't , you'd never ...Yet you have the audacity to complain and rant about what you dont know?

To all them complaining ...shut the **** up and play the game...even more so , don't expect a release because to be fair you don't deserve it (Yes i said it twice).

STFU and Play u prunes.

 

[TravisW]

Don't release the files, the inpatients of this community is disgusting and i don't feel they deserve it.

End of the day, AppleM2 Source is out there for others to play with...I myself have a much more up to date version of the source but just don't have the time or will power to be assed to translate and code in things they've missed. So "and sorry for my laungauge" **** the other sever owners and just continue doing what your doing

P.S - This is coming from a TGA team member (or an old member atleast) Keep your files, we dont want them :P

EDIT: Sorry but i had to reply this "DavidShaw" post.

Okay, im in a completely different team of developers here and i know for a FACT that coding Applem2 to the state it is today was FAR more work than ANYONES put into mir...I know i know, slating my own. But **** me have these guys dones some work.

The things they've had to overcome from where these files stood is actually impressive and to say they aint started from scratch is bullshit...mearly because they pretty much have... You try and pick up a bodge job piece of **** code made by some crack head chink and get it to a fully working set of english files stable enough to support the likes of you... You couldn't , you'd never ...Yet you have the audacity to complain and rant about what you dont know?

To all them complaining ...shut the **** up and play the game...even more so , don't expect a release because to be fair you don't deserve it (Yes i said it twice).

STFU and Play u prunes.

Wow, someone with a brain. In total agreement with the above.
You people are all so worried about a release. You pick up the source and do what this team has done and you ****ing release it then. Didn't think so.

 

[Zordon]

To be honest I've never played Mir2 and I doubt I ever will, but I can understand why they haven't released the files yet. Numerous times people have been told the files aren't stable which to most should be a good enough reason for them not to release yet.

Give the ACEM2 team time to iron out all the current issues, add in the missing content and get a nice stable release set up and I can bet we'd all appreciate it. As a server admin myself for mir 3, I would totally appreciate it if someone was doing this amount of work to make a set of files that are a: easy to set up, b: stable and c: easier to customise. From what I've read that is exactly what they are trying to do for the Mir 2 community, so stop whining, get some respect and above all be grateful that the Mir 2 community has so many people willing to work on this game that is over a decade old now!

 

[Shady]

they shouldn't release them....we have a stable server with a good usercount. more acem2 servers = all low population.

 

[<SOSO>]

they shouldn't release them....we have a stable server with a good usercount. more acem2 servers = all low population.

They are stupid if they release the files.

 

[daneo1989]

they shouldn't release them....we have a stable server with a good usercount. more acem2 servers = all low population.

They are stupid if they release the files.

To both of your post's...

AceM2 has a really good set of file's. Some people would say there still abit buggy to a complete file release.

Shady your argument with more AceM2 based servers will reduce the population this is true. BUT! AceM2 doesn't tick all the boxes which people want from a Private Server. I know there's Sijo but the slow development due to real life circumstances people will give up on it.

8 out of the 10 times a server has been announced on LOMCN never come online.