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I guess my argument to that is we would need real data in order to truely balance the new classes...

As always we are a development server, even when the server goes up things are subject to change, its the only way we can truely find a balance amongst the classes... Besides its not really the classes that have been proven to be unbalanced in the passed but rather the skills they have.

Am I promoting a completely bug free, 100% balanced server? No (that would be a ridiculous statement), I am promoting a server with 5 classes and the knowledge and commitment of a team to ensure that if/when bugs and balance issues are found, they are fixed as quickly and effectively as possible.

Sam

Then why not release a beta test with the knowledge of wiping? Would certainly speed things up.

But I dunno about others, but if you released and said "There MAY be a wipe" then I won't be playing till it's fully ready
 

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Then why not release a beta test with the knowledge of wiping? Would certainly speed things up.

But I dunno about others, but if you released and said "There MAY be a wipe" then I won't be playing till it's fully ready

I am not sure where this rumor of a wipe has sprung from, but I would like to stop it there... As a Rumor, in no way are there any plans to wipe at any point...

Sam
 

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I am not sure where this rumor of a wipe has sprung from, but I would like to stop it there... As a Rumor, in no way are there any plans to wipe at any point...

Sam

Stick up a beta, let us test for afew weeks to test the classes, then wipe and release!
 

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I am not sure where this rumor of a wipe has sprung from, but I would like to stop it there... As a Rumor, in no way are there any plans to wipe at any point...

Sam

Lol I never said anyone mentioned a wipe...but last time I played a server when nothing was properly tested ended up wiping as the imbalance caused a massive disadvantage...don't exactly want the same happening, but i'd prefer you test things properly so it doesn't happen to you
 

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Preusming the archer is a wizard with different animations?, it basicly does Long Range AOE/Single target damage yeh?


Personaly i think mir is "3 heroes" and any new Korean class is destined to be a total flop and ruin the game....


The only server with an assassin that ever worked was on one where it was totally re-programmed and built, and it wasnt anything like the korean/gamepot version. Everyone seems to be obsessed with copying the koreans, but imo the koreans get everything wrong...
 

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Preusming the archer is a wizard with different animations?, it basicly does Long Range AOE/Single target damage yeh?

Off a little tangent but linked similar to this: I'm interested, as in maps there are two attribute colours, red & yellow. Yellow allows SFB, FB, GFB, FC etc, spells to pass through the walls to mobs - eg Taos can SFB kill WT on corner in KR. Red does not allow this, eg Taos cannot SFB kill mobs in BDD.

I am interested to see whether archers have the ability to 'shoot through walls' or whether they suffer the same fate as taos with SFB.

I do feel a few maps will need amending to allow archers to work 'true' with line of sight. Otherwise they will be massivly OP's or useless in 'closed in' maps. - I dont feel arrows should pass through walls but with detailed closed in maps (BDD) some skulls * ground detail has red attributes.


Stick up a beta, let us test for afew weeks to test the classes, then wipe and release!


Please just go to the pub and stop saying this (something along these lines) on every thread.
 

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Well I agree with most of why archer should be put in from the beginning but I haven't play assassin properly so I can make do with that. Also most of the new content is always aimed at level 40+ so the argument for having to play the same old boring content again to level up archer is just going to happen anyway.

I am looking forward to trying this new class. As long as it's different from the others I can see it being a success.
 

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I guess my argument to that is we would need real data in order to truely balance the new classes...

As always we are a development server, even when the server goes up things are subject to change, its the only way we can truely find a balance amongst the classes... Besides its not really the classes that have been proven to be unbalanced in the passed but rather the skills they have.

Am I promoting a completely bug free, 100% balanced server? No (that would be a ridiculous statement), I am promoting a server with 5 classes and the knowledge and commitment of a team to ensure that if/when bugs and balance issues are found, they are fixed as quickly and effectively as possible.

Sam

Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !
 

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Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !

Ohhhh some still angry about inamra or is it just about archers and sins
 

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Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !

Things will always be subject to change... "Getting it right" is a matter of opinion.

Sam
 

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Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !

You've destroyed the english language, reading that was painful.

Are you paying to play this game? Your lucky that the team even speaks to you let alone entertain your ridiculous posts, unlike Gamepot or Euro where if you complained you'd just get banned or ignored.

I've already decided not to play based on the fact that it's full of worms like you.
 

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Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !

Seriously? Stop being a self-entitled muppet.

Why would we not want to play a server with a new class? I'm tired of playing the same class 100 times over. The assassin has so far been a flop except for on 4heroes, so I and many others are just hoping that we get a fun class that provides something unique to a game that has pretty much been unchanged in over 12 years until now....

Stop hassling and let them get on with it tbh.
 
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Why don't you just get the server up without god damn archer? you can work out archer later and add it as a patch?

I dont really care about Sin / Archer...maybe there more like me, imo these new shity class just ruined mir.... they not even look like from this game + they unbalanced the game in many different ways even in official usa mir.

we could enjoy the game while u workout sin/archer =P

I hope you get stuff right this time and wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure like used to be on acem2.

Good luck !

its a valid point, im sure theres lots agree and dont give a monkeys about the new classes.

I wont be playing either of em, but its gonna help shake mir up along with the rest of the new stuff (Too Numerous to mention!) so on the whole its somthing i welcome.
As for patches and updates, name a game that doesnt have em these days! and name one where some peeps aint complained its fk stuff up.

im hoping launch will be when most people are off for Xmas, and not the week there all heading back, if this can be achieved sam, im sure we'd all forgive lots of patching and updates :D
 

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You've destroyed the english language, reading that was painful.

Are you paying to play this game? Your lucky that the team even speaks to you let alone entertain your ridiculous posts, unlike Gamepot or Euro where if you complained you'd just get banned or ignored.

I've already decided not to play based on the fact that it's full of worms like you.

With that kind of attitude you are expecting to lecture other people. Good luck !

On topic, archer at game launch is a big surprise for me. It was the only game feature that attracted me to play my first private server (feature never implemented).

Can't wait to see the server opened !
 
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With that kind of attitude you are expecting to lecture other people. Good luck !

On topic, archer at game launch is a big surprise for me. It was the only game feature that attracted me to play my first private server (feature never implemented).

Can't wait to see the server opened !

I'm sorry you've lost me, my attitude here was nothing but defensive for the creators of this game and the english language. If you can't string a full sentence together then don't bother ranting and raving about potential inconveniences from a game that is free, its really that simple.

What did you mean anyways?
"With that kind of attitude you are expecting to lecture other people" - I'm sorry but that does not make sense

Are you saying my attitude is wrong therefore i should not lecture people? www.confused.com
 

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I'm sorry you've lost me, my attitude here was nothing but defensive for the creators of this game and the english language. If you can't string a full sentence together then don't bother ranting and raving about potential inconveniences from a game that is free, its really that simple.

What did you mean anyways?
"With that kind of attitude you are expecting to lecture other people" - I'm sorry but that does not make sense

Are you saying my attitude is wrong therefore i should not lecture people? www.confused.com

1. Don't lecture people in English if you can't even use interpunction properly.
2.I recon he/she ment that, you can't lecture people with the attitude you're using towards them.
3.Stop going off-topic(same for me :))
 

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Since there will be an item mall for this game it's wrong to say
Are you paying to play this game?
...if you know Son0ftheDog then you'll remember if he pays for the game or not.

About grammar, this is a mir forum and not everyone here is English native.

My last off-topic comment. Sorry.
 

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You've destroyed the english language, reading that was painful.

Are you paying to play this game? Your lucky that the team even speaks to you let alone entertain your ridiculous posts, unlike Gamepot or Euro where if you complained you'd just get banned or ignored.

I've already decided not to play based on the fact that it's full of worms like you.

worms like me? who's me? dude you have no idea what you talking, but nvm i got better stuff to do then to explain you ****.

Im lucky the team even speak to me? wow this funny... what im lucky about is that not everyone is as you.


I'm sorry you've lost me, my attitude here was nothing but defensive for the creators of this game and the english language. If you can't string a full sentence together then don't bother ranting and raving about potential inconveniences from a game that is free, its really that simple.

lol @ defensive ... whos attacking??? lmao

this game isn't about english and anyway you was able to read it so stfu lil moaning baby, i only want the game open with or without archer so i can kick noobs like you =)
 
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I don't play mir and you was clearly having a bitch up.

wont change **** every reboot up to any idiot pleasure

correct me if i am wrong, sorry about the de-railing on this topic but this guy is a tool.
 

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this class gunna be like a wiz without the low hp? ****in gay if they got decent hp!