You cant let people power level with the spell to 44 the nerf the spell and let everyone else try and catch with with a nerfed spell, im not even a archer and think this is wrong and have ruined it for so many people
So now static shot is useless are you....
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You cant let people power level with the spell to 44 the nerf the spell and let everyone else try and catch with with a nerfed spell, im not even a archer and think this is wrong and have ruined it for so many people
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Are you sure about this Sam? I've only been able to stunlock the same mobs that TStorm can stun. That change you made to Elec Minos last week also meant we couldn't stun them without the yellow poison proc.
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thats a fair point but also i realised i was talking pvp and not pve. Game should be bassed around pve not pvp as people moan about ( i only used my point because iv never used an archer or hunted with one). If you can sort out the pve concept and inform dev team how its weak / to strong pve then pvp will balance out
Just drop the new classes they bring too much problems , go play a warr tao or wizz.
let people who want to live in uncertainity be i won't be touching those classes again
Freestyler
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Well that really isn't the issue, those who are 44 are that because they put the time in, same with every other person in the idnividual classes. SS wasn't the reason for this fast leveling.
However that being said it was the best leveling an archer would do without going TS'ing, I don't see what's so wrong with being able to kite and kill mobs wizzy fw+lightning style. Archer's aren't overleveled nor are there that many in the high levels. We need to be able to destroy mobs 1 at a time or mass kill, either way we're gonna be QQ'd at cus it will be compared to another class.
One thing I've noticed on this server is that there are a lot of small group hunts, comprised of all the classes, so again, the change is kinda irrelevant to PvE, the moans were about PvP where I can see the reasoning behind the nerf but nothing was done to make up for it.
At the end of the day people are just crying because they don't have there main spells, and archers just so happen to get theirs 1st.
Take a look at how op poison cloud is.
http://www.twitch.tv/sterush/c/3536058
Take a look at how op poison cloud is.
http://www.twitch.tv/sterush/c/3536058
Better idea.
Switch skills. trade in the lightning skills from wizz style skill archer would get at higher level for staticshot make it a rare high end lategameskill like ff this would make the things that it brings fair and doesn't require a nerf.
this change won't drop archer their possibility to level probably even increase it and brings a healtier game to here.
if people this shouldn't be like that please tell em why
One does not just nerf a spell after it has been used by many archers already to gain an advantage in levels. A nerf like this can actually be considered unfair and game breaking.
Unfortunately I have to agree with the previous complaints. I'm nrly L32 archer and my current single target DPS is not high enough to meet the hype, in that warriors and assassins can both kill quicker than me, assassins I'd expect as they are so easily killed but warriors obviously being the tank, I wouldn't expect such a quick dispatch speed.
The changes made to SS genuinely shocked me in their severity and the fact multiple negative changes were made at once to a skill I was looking forward to as the "salvation of the class".
I've been considering changing class since mid 20s when everything slowed down much more than expected, but was looking forward to SS bringing us back in the game. Now I'm not sure what to do :-/ If the stun affected is permanently removed as well as the speed being reduced, surely this needs a massive DPS boost, even then it's not the same spell but at least it's not redundant? Probably wont be enough but don't know what else to suggest if the rest is non negotiable.
The changes made to SS genuinely shocked me in their severity and the fact multiple negative changes were made at once to a skill I was looking forward to as the "salvation of the class".
I've been considering changing class since mid 20s when everything slowed down much more than expected, but was looking forward to SS bringing us back in the game. Now I'm not sure what to do :-/ If the stun affected is permanently removed as well as the speed being reduced, surely this needs a massive DPS boost, even then it's not the same spell but at least it's not redundant? Probably wont be enough but don't know what else to suggest if the rest is non negotiable.
Revert the skill to how its was, just increase the cooldown time...... very simple fix to be honest.
Theres absolutly nothing wrong with archers having a powerful skill, gives them a reason to be played.
People just dont like change. all there is to it.
Theres absolutly nothing wrong with archers having a powerful skill, gives them a reason to be played.
People just dont like change. all there is to it.
If any nerf should happen it should be a Tao nerf.
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That's ridiculous nerf the Tao class it's quite literally the only class that needs nerfing with the poison cloud, plague, poison and 10 thousand skeles.
I agree, if there is a slight cooldown on this it will stop this problem Samuel has suggested of Archers being a 1-man tstorm equivalent. It will also mean 2 archers can achieve the same thing just like 2 wizards, and 1 archer can at least have a useful skill even if with a small cooldown.
I think there should be some realistic alternatives proposed and Samuel comments on which he is prepared to try. I just don't feel such a powerful skill can be completely removed after all this time (what was the point of the beta if not to make MAJOR changes to classes?). It's like removing TStorm, TDB or FD, obviously there will be a super whingefest, not because people are greedy but because you've taken away what they thought they had for so long. I do think huge class changes should come with an opportunity of class changes etc, but I know that's never going to happen.
Just makes you feel ****ed over, yes the server is free and really advanced, but should massive changes like this be made over and over without player input beforehand? It just feels like an infinite beta but you expect consistency at this stage!
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Seeing as half of the people that have replied since this have completely disregarded it and want it back mostly exactly how it was, how about giving a reply based off of Sam's with some actual constructive requests?
Because the change completely changes the way the spell works and we don't want the new useless version. A 100%+ increase in damage to the point the total damage across all arrows is at least 60-75% of our current best single target spell. Or, just ignore it and focus on our single target spells but they would need buffing too.
Basically, Archers (like myself) want a way of being able to keep up with the other classes at higher levels and even with the strong single target attack we can't do this. If our class will always be single target based, we can't afford to kill slower than all the other classes using this? I suppose this spell basically undid the "single target" principle which just doesn't really work at the current DPS?
Unsure if that makes sense?
Basically, Archers (like myself) want a way of being able to keep up with the other classes at higher levels and even with the strong single target attack we can't do this. If our class will always be single target based, we can't afford to kill slower than all the other classes using this? I suppose this spell basically undid the "single target" principle which just doesn't really work at the current DPS?
Unsure if that makes sense?
Freestyler
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Just going to ignore this lol.
Made a few suggestions about the changes that can be made to this skill and we have received a response from Sam so let's wait and see. But also, what a lot of people have been hinting at but not saying is that it wasn't just 1 change. The spell wasn't game breaking and yet received 2 major changes and 1 minor change. How about just as a general server development rule: Unless the thing is breaking the game, make small adjustments and then let it get tested by the players without completely stopping the experience. Much easier to get a nice balance that way rather than just guessing, which, sorry for the offence, seems to have been the approach on this issue.
I mean, I've been available to level all day, as have others, and we either cba or just feel a good thing has been taken away that it's barely worth leveling at the 5% p/h pace again, not to mention boring, I rushed to 34 asap over the weekend just gone to get it and have a change of play style.
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