Does EXP need to change

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Does experience need to change


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ziiid

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Hey all.

Wanted to get some other players thoughts on the experience rates here. This is not a thread attempting to get OMG 10X RATES! But rather have some reasoned thoughts on if it should change.

Some of you may not know that the exp needed to level doubles at level 44, this in conjunction with the fact that the rates are set somewhere around 1.5X official rates leads to the conclusion that the server is in fact an even lower rate server than euro. If you played ace then the comparison would be that ace was 6.7X the rate that it is here after 44 and most people will still no where close to 56.

Given that the CURRENT content goes to level 56 or 57 (highest level items and level 3 of some spells) I did the math somewhere else and it looked something like this. " To give you a really general ideal you need something like 5-6 billion exp for level 56. If we give someone a generous average of 2 million exp per hour. You end up with 4000 hours worth of leveling. If you take a player who does nothing but level 2 hours per day it will take them 2000 days to level (5.5 years or leveling every single day) if its someone who levels 40 hours a week as a full time job? It will still take them 1.9 years of level as a full time job. Now sure there are exceptions, get really good gear maybe you can level 4 times as fast....The casual player will max out the CURRENT content (not added content, but the content that is already in the game) in 500 days of straight leveling. "

Two things, firstly Sam today mentioned that some of the classes are "balanced" based on skills that are not maxed until level 56, this would then indicate that the classes will forever be unbalanced as no one, and especially not anyone close to the average, will reach this level.

Secondly I truly appreciate the work Sam and the others have put into this server, it seems a shame that at the current rate no one will be able to enjoy it. This goes especially true for the content being added in 2.0, hopping that people will actually get to enjoy playing it.

PS for those that think "but look there is already a level 46." Keep in mind that they have publicly announced that they have a problem and addiction that lead them to playing way to much resulting in the sale of there character and quitting. (level 46 is no where even close to 56 for those who don't know how exp goes up per level in mir)
 

Samuel

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Some of you may not know that the exp needed to level doubles at level 44, this in conjunction with the fact that the rates are set somewhere around 1.5X official rates leads to the conclusion that the server is in fact an even lower rate server than euro.

What? :S... The Rate is x2... At 44+ it becomes euro.

In addition, we are 2.5 months into the life of the server and we have a handful of level 45+...

Sam
 

davey_boyy

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Some of you may not know that the exp needed to level doubles at level 44.

Well your even wrong with that as exp at 44 more than Triples from 50mll to 160mill over 3X as much not double.
 

ziiid

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What? :S... The Rate is x2... At 44+ it becomes euro.

In addition, we are 2.5 months into the life of the server and we have a handful of level 45+...

Sam

Thanks for the response. Everything isn't at X2 official currently, this could be a bug though?
Additionally even if it was at euro official you know that no one got to 56 in what 3 years? and that level 45 is insanely far away from 56 (you prove what I am saying it would take the hardcore levelers 2 years to get to the end of the current content).

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level 44 is 80 on official, 160 on here, so double.
 

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Two things, firstly Sam today mentioned that some of the classes are "balanced" based on skills that are not maxed until level 56, this would then indicate that the classes will forever be unbalanced as no one, and especially not anyone close to the average, will reach this level.

Of course people will reach this level, what a stupid statement to make.

No one hit level 56 on euro within the first few months - yet there's still this sweeping judgement that just because it's a private server that max level should be gained in a few weeks.

Do you go on every game with level progression and go "levelling is too slow, no ones ever going to hit max level"
 

Adv

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Thats why there are updates.....

New caves, higher exp, faster leveling....

Your theory goes on zero updates, ever.

Exp is fine.

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JordanF

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Should have stayed at a x2 server, going to take years before people can fully enjoy this server with euro exp rates
 

ziiid

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Of course people will reach this level, what a stupid statement to make.

No one hit level 56 on euro within the first few months - yet there's still this sweeping judgement that just because it's a private server that max level should be gained in a few weeks.

Do you go on every game with level progression and go "levelling is too slow, no ones ever going to hit max level"

no one hit level 56 on euro in 3 years, lol read the whole thread.

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Thats why there are updates.....

New caves, higher exp, faster leveling....

Your theory goes on zero updates, ever.

Exp is fine.

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Your saying the same thing....."if he adds new content with higher exp rates it will be fine" your assuming he will add this and therefore exp is fine.
 

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no one hit level 56 on euro in 3 years, lol read the whole thread.

Yeah, I read it. Twice. And your comments were as idiotic the second time around as they were the first.

The exp rate is clearly higher on Chronicles than on Euro - and people some how managed to reach level cap there. So how come it becomes such an impossible task when it is in fact easier to reach cap?
 

Samuel

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Thanks for the response. Everything isn't at X2 official currently, this could be a bug though?
Additionally even if it was at euro official you know that no one got to 56 in what 3 years? and that level 45 is insanely far away from 56 (you prove what I am saying it would take the hardcore levelers 2 years to get to the end of the current content).

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level 44 is 80 on official, 160 on here, so double.

Should be x2, if not feel free to highlight what is not.

We have a never ending amount of content, we have access to 100's of unique Mir caves/mobs and endless amounts of contents (because we support any and all versions of Mir)... So the game doesn't end at 56, however if your argument seems to be with how long its going to take to get to 56 (not sure where this number has come from either?).

My statement is, Chronicles isn't going anywhere, if it is going to take that long to get to level 56 then Chronicles will still be here for it, how we make it more enjoyable (staggered content/incentive to level) will be a challenge, but then that is part of the fun for us.

Sam
 

Jamie

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Should have stayed at a x2 server, going to take years before people can fully enjoy this server with euro exp rates

I some what agree with this, The amount of time it is going to take to get the higher level items (GreatFox/50 Weaps/Spells) I seriously cannot see them ever used ingame... That is a shame, Since I hit level 44 The server has no longer a 2x rate but 1x rate.
 

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Should be x2, if not feel free to highlight what is not.

We have a never ending amount of content, we have access to 100's of unique Mir caves/mobs and endless amounts of contents (because we support any and all versions of Mir)... So the game doesn't end at 56, however if your argument seems to be with how long its going to take to get to 56 (not sure where this number has come from either?).

My statement is, Chronicles isn't going anywhere, if it is going to take that long to get to level 56 then Chronicles will still be here for it, how we make it more enjoyable (staggered content/incentive to level) will be a challenge, but then that is part of the fun for us.

Sam

+1 to this!
i just hope the team don't get fed up of never ending complaining threads and keep the ideal they planned of a long term server and don't just get fed up and think sod it close server, people forget this isn't a service we are owed
 

ziiid

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The 56 came as a number based on your current content. level 3 of certain spells and the level requirements on certain items. Again I agree with your point, if you have access to unlimited content then the game doesnt need to end at 56, so having the experience set up so people can make it to 56(and then still have more content that you can add) makes good sense. As Jamie said few if anyone will get to 50 let alone 56 to enjoy the content that you have made.
 

davey_boyy

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Yeah, I read it. Twice. And your comments were as idiotic the second time around as they were the first.

The exp rate is clearly higher on Chronicles than on Euro - and people some how managed to reach level cap there. So how come it becomes such an impossible task when it is in fact easier to reach cap?

Lol ppl reached lvl cap on euro??? no they didn't think highest was lvl 52 when it ended and it was capped at 60 im sure.

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If anything we need to lower the exp rate. Troll on.

What lvl are? you wudnt be saying that if you were 44/45 that's where the fun begins up till 44 its piss easy lvling.

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Tbh x2 is too much... extra 15 or 20% from euro would have been better
 

Jamie

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Exp is fine what a pointless thread

So you happy with the idea that It would take 1 Year of constant leveling for anyone to be high enough to learn MeteorStike (If it drops). And then another 18 Months of constant leveling to get it level 2?
 

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Exp is not fine although the secret reason behind it makes sense lol. Sam wants people to take ages getting past the content he puts in so he has time to sort the next bit of content and bugs out.

I do hate this exp lol. I wish it was 10-40% better. There are always people that level past others. It's their fault if the content is not their for them to enjoy. If you race to a high level you have no right to complain about out levelling content.
 

Samuel

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Exp is not fine although the secret reason behind it makes sense lol. Sam wants people to take ages getting past the content he puts in so he has time to sort the next bit of content and bugs out.

I do hate this exp lol. I wish it was 10-40% better. There are always people that level past others. It's their fault if the content is not their for them to enjoy. If you race to a high level you have no right to complain about out levelling content.

I am but a lonely samurai...

Sam