Why are Archers so tanky?

[OoOoOo24]

Just some thoughts ( I havent played archer, but going to make one soon )

To mee it seems like they are way to tanky for what they are, my understanding would be that they would be like a DC version of wizard since they're ranged which would make perfect sense. But they have a **** load of AC/AMC on their armours, and because they're DC based this allows them to wear warrior defensive items such as Black Iron Helm. Is it just me who doesn't see the logic? I've fought archers who have tanked so much damage from me, and at the same time they dish out some sweet ass damage... pretty much the same as warriors damage ecept from like a million miles away. They also had a HP buff while wizards get left in the lurch with like 2HP. Does anyone else feel like this? Maybe i'm missing something, and again I can't speak for their weaknesses since I haven't played them. Thoughts?:S

p.s I'm not gonna say what class I play to reduce such flaming as 'well your a bla bla you can do this that blah blah.

 

[HarryH]

I know others have spoken out about their bag weight and defensive stats, saying it should be lower considering they don't have an apparent weakness at the minute.

I think it's another case of them being compared to an underpowered class, once wizards have their AoE dropping and single target spells buffed up (potentially) then they wont seem as good.

 

[jaffar91]

queue 10 page rant by people. lol

 

[Tai]

I know others have spoken out about their bag weight and defensive stats, saying it should be lower considering they don't have an apparent weakness at the minute.

I think it's another case of them being compared to an underpowered class, once wizards have their AoE dropping and single target spells buffed up (potentially) then they wont seem as good.

He's not just comparing them to wizards though. (rightly so)

 

[Babyhack]

The problem we have with Archers is afaik we are the first server to have them live and playable.

This brings a large set of problems as we have very little to base the class on and finding a balance is not easy in this case.

Normally when wemade or shanda add as new class they have a large team working on it, this is not the case here (this is also not a excess)

We understand that there are problems between the classes and we are working all the time to try and address these issues.

Anyway keep this mature and post what you think maybe a way to address to issues of the class.

BH

 

[Porkpie]

why do people all ways say w8 till (wizz get this and that) then it will be balanced the sud be balanced all the way not when some1 gets a skill that we all know is not droping 4 a long time and not many will drop all people ever says w8 till end game bah bah who the *** wonts 2 w8 till end when ur bord.

 

[HarryH]

He's not just comparing them to wizards though. (rightly so)

Okay yes I was a little shortsighted there, I've never tried an archer just my personal experience of them. I'd say from looking in town and hunting that they are less common than the other classes, could be wrong.

Pork, Wizard skills will start dropping and when they do then it'll help fix the class.

 

[Carribean]

archers are not that tanky in all honesty, currently at 44 i have 353hp compared to a warriors 800+hp. maybe the ones you have seen have invested in some hp kit ?

 

[deano13]

Their body weight is way OP to, at 42 Sin I have basic **** and my body weight is 49/52

I see archers running about in BIHs P Rings Weight 3-8 bracers and a torch with no problems at all... But unfair they do stupid damage and tank..

 

[Carribean]

They do not tank, you play a sin so how can u even comment on the matter

 

[Jacko]

Already before i said that archers should get less tanky stats on items and more damage ie take tankiness offa their armors and add some dc or acc

 

[OoOoOo24]

Yeah I agree, I'd say that their Armours stats should be pretty much the same as wizard, and the same goes for body weight - as that is obviously meant to be a warrior item. As for their HP - You shouldn't really be comparing it to a warriors HP as they are totally different haha. I think the HP should be more like a wizards also, as they are similar types (ranged)

 

[Tai]

Their body weight is way OP to, at 42 Sin I have basic **** and my body weight is 49/52

I see archers running about in BIHs P Rings Weight 3-8 bracers and a torch with no problems at all... But unfair they do stupid damage and tank..

I have to agree, archers should be a lightweight class, agile and dexterous. Heavy items like a BIH contradicts this.

 

[Xx69xX]

They are far from tanks

Killed 2 today both 35+ in like 3-4 hits on my sin. But their Carry weight is OP... Bag weight is fine.. i think all classes should be able to carry **** they want to within reason

 

[thedeath]

think part of why archers feel tanky in pvp, is cause they have to be able to take a hit in 'group' boss fights.
since they dont have magicshield like wiz's do,they cant rely on a skill to take those 'rare' huge dmg hits, so they have to have enough defense to survive them

 

[kickey]

With 60+ dc on a sin, archers aren't so tanky xD

 

[evilwomann]

Wizz with shield up is a tank ye, but shield only last 2-3 hits lol

 

[Koriban]

I wouldn't say they're tanky at all, to be honest. They're the easiest class to drop next to assassin. Wizzies are harder due to shield.

However, perhaps they should be adjusted so they can't be allowed to wear BIH's etc.

 

[d1craig]

Should reduce their wear weight aswell so they can't wear the likes of BIH and GH at same level as warrior. Maybe 5 levels later would be enough.

 

[OoOoOo24]

I wouldn't say they're tanky at all, to be honest. They're the easiest class to drop next to assassin. Wizzies are harder due to shield.

However, perhaps they should be adjusted so they can't be allowed to wear BIH's etc.

Yeah, I think just this would make them more balanced. Didn't take magic shield into consideration haha. Fair point about having to tank a bit for bosses