- Apr 22, 2003
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Sin Doubleslash/TDB issues
- Thread starter Nizzles
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yeah well with increased attack speed the warriors one weapon swing/tdb hit casts much faster .. with each attack speed+ the actual swing speed graphic increases.
with double slash.. if you swing without the buff then swing with the +8 buff it is pretty much, if not exactly the same speed graphic. which is wrong. and which is actually making a speed +8 more like a speed+6(not calculated just a guess) due to the graphic delaying each swing/cast of double slash. hence why the change is going to be implemented.
2 swings each at the 8x speed would just mean your alternating attacks at 8x the speed which would mean double slash really isn't doing anything. By reading between the lines there is really only 2 options in Mir. 1. it hits 2 swings in one motion (like tdb) or 2. it doesn't hit "twice in one motion" in other words it acts like a normal swings but is merely alternating hands. The only alternative is if you some how think it means "you swing twice, slightly faster than normal attacks but not doubling your attacks"
Is this an actual bug with the graphic?
It just seems to me that we're over complicating an easy resolution...
- Allow sins to have max 12 speed and keep warriors at 8.
- Make warriors slaying a mandatory spell so as to interrupt the constant TDB's
It just seems to me that we're over complicating an easy resolution...
- Allow sins to have max 12 speed and keep warriors at 8.
- Make warriors slaying a mandatory spell so as to interrupt the constant TDB's
so you not only want half again adding to your max a speed but a huge nerf on arguably the only skill worth using on a war..?
SEEMS FAIR -.-
tdb cooldown was there on euro granted but tdb was also a shed load more useful/powerful on euro ... with a cool down or not being able to repeat on here it will make warriors ****, especially if they was to implement your other idea and add 50% again on top of a sins a speed.
To attain +8 on a warrior you need to sacrifice an absolute shed load of dc and money, enough money that most wars wont be able to afford it anyways ....
I'm glad sins dont just constantly moan and want their class buffing .... wizards have had it alot rougher and they arn't whining on the forum every 5 minutes !!!
peace
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This wouldnt help, as far as i can tell the doubleslash graphic is already performing as fast as it can, could be speed +100 but wouldnt actualy swing any faster.
Bhavesh- it doesnt say that tdb ignores armour and pierces magic shields either...
- May 2, 2003
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i didnt think it ignored armour... or magic shield ( dont have a wizzie to test and dont go round randomly hitting wizzies...)
remember this is a game about killing monsters not around killing players... hence the penalty for PK
people seem to expect the game be balanced around both pvp and pve which is never going to happen...
thinking players need to choose which one they want so staff can concentrate on balancing 1 aspect...
no this is a game about killing monsters and players... hence why you can kill players. hence why players drop items when you kill them. hence why there are constant fights between guilds for bosses/items.
if it was a game based around just killing monsters then it would be a fecking shite game.
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exactly what he said...
again in yet another thread we are getting feedback from people who havent even realised what the actual issue at hand is... the doubleslash graphic should speed up x8 when you apply the attack speed buff. which at the moment it doesnt. causing sins to actually not be attack speed+8
- Feb 8, 2014
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exactly.
All aspeed is doing is reducing the time between "casts" of double slashes - that can only be reduced so far (to zero)..
It reaches zero at around aspeed 6 from my testing(not perfect) so anything above that from a sins doubleslash point of view doesnt actualy speed anything up.
with TDB the graphic is so fast that the time between "casts" can reduce by more than a sin.
heres an example
Sin aspeed 8
1sec - Swing DoubleSlash
2sec - still swinging double slash (as graphic is longer and does not speed up with aspeed)
3sec - finished swinging double slash (no pause betwen next "cast" as aspeed 8)
4sec - swing double slash. (repeat..)
Warrior
1sec - swing tdb
2sec finish swingin tdb (no pause between next case as aspeed6)
3sec swing tdb
4sec finish swinging tdb
hope that clears things up for the people that have not quite grasped what this post is suggesting.
of course none of the above is gospel Sam and BH are looking into it to see if that is the case..
this would explain why when i was making my attack speed 13 percent quicker it actually wouldn't make my double slash quicker so i stopped using it
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