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Xx69xX

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Hey guys,

Really excited for this xmas event, made my travels back to mir especially for this!

I just wanted to share my opinion on items in the event!

I know during the easter event items were put in and there was LOADS of moaning, I didn't mind too much but I could understand peoples frustration, there were no items and the top items all of a sudden were appearing, but now, there are LOADS AND LOADS of items in game and I really think adding items to this event will not hurt the server one bit, In fact I think it would encourage players to return and encourage playing players to get even richer and happier!

Im not saying add loads of items, make them as rare as u see fit, but give people incentive. I mean this mainly for the solo players, I understand there will be a boss of some sort, that your big rich guilds will take and give returning/new players or even the casual player no chance.

This kind of event could really get players interested again, I speak for myself and friends iv been talking to when I say this.


I get the hesitation, but It never hurt even euro mir to add items at a fair rate, im not saying add heaven armours or mir items, but Boundless rings/ Smash kits etc, things that are worth enough to get you started, and why not the odd 40/43 wep? there are hundreds of these floating around now, I cant see in what way it could hurt? instead give every 1 more competition.

Im not presuming this is not what you have planned, I just wanted to share a point of view before its added tomorrow.

I hope this kind of event is put in place, the usercount would go nuts, and mir would be so exciting for this xmas period!
 

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At this stage the event is planned, coded and done really.

It's less then 24 hours before the event starts, we really can not go about changing it now.

Items are in the event but not what you have listed, as said its way to late at thus stage to go changing the whole thing

BH
 

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The presents will give things like bene's, impact drugs and gems I assume?
 

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You will have to wait and see 

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I already know they will be rubbish drops - Also I know i've been spamming BW shout and forum for PoisonCloud the past few days but don't be a troll and give it to me in my present, i already got one now :P xD
 

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Then in all honesty you need to think of a way to cater to the new person, its no good saying "do what every 1 else did" as what every 1 used to do cant be done no more as all the big bosses are completely camped, and we cant pk any 1 as there gear is crazy compared to the new starter.... events are the normal way for new players to catch up.. Sometimes there's a difference between keeping a server "professional" and realising its a game you want to keep alive. Don't attract new players and get old players to return and the game will slowly die.

Despite saying its too late, that's not true... Ill show you...

Adding items and testing drop rates would take 20-30 mins max. Heres my go, and ill put how long it took me.

1/6000 SmashRing
1/6000 SmashWheel
1/6000 SmashPendulum

1/6000 HwanDevilRing
1/6000 HwanDevilBracelet
1/6000 HwanDevilNeck

1/6000 PurityRing
1/6000 PurityBracelet
1/6000 PurityNecklace

1/9000 BoundlesRing
1/9000 ThunderRing
1/9000 TaeGukRing

1/9000 HangMaWheel
1/9000 BokMaWheel
1/9000 BaekTaGlove

1/7000 OmaSpiritRing
1/7000 NobelRing
1/7000 SoulRing

1/10000 DragonSlayer
1/10000 SoulSabre
1/10000 DragonStaff

1/15000 SwordOfWarGod
1/15000HeavenSword
1/15000BladeOfSorcery

1/3000 TitanRing
1/3000 VioletRing
1/3000 PowerRing

1/2000 KnightBracelet
1/2000 SouldSpringBracelet
1/2000 DragonBracelet

1/3900 StoneBambooFan
1/3900 WarSpiritBlade
1/3900 MagicScythe

1/5000 HeroNecklace
1/5000 AdamantineNecklace
1/5000 RequiemNecklace

Then go online
Spawn 100 Xmas Mob or w.e kill and see drops. You want something like 2-3 items from 500-600 mobs. which probly will occur more as theres a lot of items. So adjust each up another thousand and repeat. That's your testing done.

It took me 3-4 minutes to compose the list, I imagine 2-3 minutes to load the M2 server Up. and 3 minutes each test phase. Refresing the drop files takes 5 seconds on an empty test server. and adapting the numbers to test would take 2-3 mins, so Yes would take 20-30 mins but not enough time to say impossible to change.

Im not demanding anything, but saying its to late to add a little something isn't impossible, id rather you just say we don't want to add items.

Its just a simple fact, adding items to events gets people interested. If you leave the event like the easter one. People wont care about Temp kit. Unless it has aspeed+2 on rings neckys and weapons. Just an honest opinon.
 

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Gief christmas present with FlameField inside for my wizard ty
 

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Then in all honesty you need to think of a way to cater to the new person, its no good saying "do what every 1 else did" as what every 1 used to do cant be done no more as all the big bosses are completely camped, and we cant pk any 1 as there gear is crazy compared to the new starter.... events are the normal way for new players to catch up.. Sometimes there's a difference between keeping a server "professional" and realising its a game you want to keep alive. Don't attract new players and get old players to return and the game will slowly die.

Despite saying its too late, that's not true... Ill show you...

Adding items and testing drop rates would take 20-30 mins max. Heres my go, and ill put how long it took me.

1/6000 SmashRing
1/6000 SmashWheel
1/6000 SmashPendulum

1/6000 HwanDevilRing
1/6000 HwanDevilBracelet
1/6000 HwanDevilNeck

1/6000 PurityRing
1/6000 PurityBracelet
1/6000 PurityNecklace

1/9000 BoundlesRing
1/9000 ThunderRing
1/9000 TaeGukRing

1/9000 HangMaWheel
1/9000 BokMaWheel
1/9000 BaekTaGlove

1/7000 OmaSpiritRing
1/7000 NobelRing
1/7000 SoulRing

1/10000 DragonSlayer
1/10000 SoulSabre
1/10000 DragonStaff

1/15000 SwordOfWarGod
1/15000HeavenSword
1/15000BladeOfSorcery

1/3000 TitanRing
1/3000 VioletRing
1/3000 PowerRing

1/2000 KnightBracelet
1/2000 SouldSpringBracelet
1/2000 DragonBracelet

1/3900 StoneBambooFan
1/3900 WarSpiritBlade
1/3900 MagicScythe

1/5000 HeroNecklace
1/5000 AdamantineNecklace
1/5000 RequiemNecklace

Then go online
Spawn 100 Xmas Mob or w.e kill and see drops. You want something like 2-3 items from 500-600 mobs. which probly will occur more as theres a lot of items. So adjust each up another thousand and repeat. That's your testing done.

It took me 3-4 minutes to compose the list, I imagine 2-3 minutes to load the M2 server Up. and 3 minutes each test phase. Refresing the drop files takes 5 seconds on an empty test server. and adapting the numbers to test would take 2-3 mins, so Yes would take 20-30 mins but not enough time to say impossible to change.

Im not demanding anything, but saying its to late to add a little something isn't impossible, id rather you just say we don't want to add items.

Its just a simple fact, adding items to events gets people interested. If you leave the event like the easter one. People wont care about Temp kit. Unless it has aspeed+2 on rings neckys and weapons. Just an honest opinon.

As good as you idea is, it's now close to 1am, the event starts in less tgen 24 hours, I have to sleep and also work tomorrow.

There are other plans for the server, plans for new content and stuff for new players, less then 24 hours before an event is due to start is not enough time to go about changing things.

I fully understand where you are coming from but I nor any other member of the team are machines, we all work and we all need sleep.

There are already some nice items in the event

BH
 
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Xx69xX

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That's fair enough.

But I just wanted to highlight the point that as much as I want to play this game, I feel I am completely restricted. I suppose my point has been put across and as you have said you are addressing it, so that enough for me to feel like I have been heard.

Thanks
 

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There are plenty of ways to make money and earn kit ingame already, especially with the amount of hours you put in (if you play like you used to)

Just because you cant farm the 1drop bosses anymore as you are overpowered/outnumbered doesn't mean items should be handed out willy nilly.
Do it like other people had to do it when you and your crew camped the one droppers. IWT, ikh, izt, dd, wt, ec, kh, zt, bl. Are all bosses that are rarely camped all day, even then its usually a team of 1-2 players that would be contestable.

I think your problem is that you wanted to come back and kill colo, frozen and fox for fast guaranteed kit but you are no longer in that tier of players. You have to earn your way to the top and currently you are at the bottom.
Thats not intended as an insult more of an awakening shout.
 

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There are plenty of ways to make money and earn kit ingame already, especially with the amount of hours you put in (if you play like you used to)
.

I can see where you're coming from but these guys started farming the big bosses in power rings and level 30 weapons. I checked lastnight and most of them have 43 or just as good weapons plus decent accessories.

the problem for me with the server was mainly accessories, they are the thing to be gemmed but their drop rate is just skewed in regards to weapons etc. (From my personal experience). Id see 3 or 4 level 43 weapons drop in guild every single day but only 1 accessory that I could roll on, and obviously it gets smashed instantly.
 

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Then in all honesty you need to think of a way to cater to the new person, its no good saying "do what every 1 else did" as what every 1 used to do cant be done no more as all the big bosses are completely camped, and we cant pk any 1 as there gear is crazy compared to the new starter.... events are the normal way for new players to catch up.. Sometimes there's a difference between keeping a server "professional" and realising its a game you want to keep alive. Don't attract new players and get old players to return and the game will slowly die.

Despite saying its too late, that's not true... Ill show you...

Adding items and testing drop rates would take 20-30 mins max. Heres my go, and ill put how long it took me.

1/6000 SmashRing
1/6000 SmashWheel
1/6000 SmashPendulum

1/6000 HwanDevilRing
1/6000 HwanDevilBracelet
1/6000 HwanDevilNeck

1/6000 PurityRing
1/6000 PurityBracelet
1/6000 PurityNecklace

1/9000 BoundlesRing
1/9000 ThunderRing
1/9000 TaeGukRing

1/9000 HangMaWheel
1/9000 BokMaWheel
1/9000 BaekTaGlove

1/7000 OmaSpiritRing
1/7000 NobelRing
1/7000 SoulRing

1/10000 DragonSlayer
1/10000 SoulSabre
1/10000 DragonStaff

1/15000 SwordOfWarGod
1/15000HeavenSword
1/15000BladeOfSorcery

1/3000 TitanRing
1/3000 VioletRing
1/3000 PowerRing

1/2000 KnightBracelet
1/2000 SouldSpringBracelet
1/2000 DragonBracelet

1/3900 StoneBambooFan
1/3900 WarSpiritBlade
1/3900 MagicScythe

1/5000 HeroNecklace
1/5000 AdamantineNecklace
1/5000 RequiemNecklace

Then go online
Spawn 100 Xmas Mob or w.e kill and see drops. You want something like 2-3 items from 500-600 mobs. which probly will occur more as theres a lot of items. So adjust each up another thousand and repeat. That's your testing done.

It took me 3-4 minutes to compose the list, I imagine 2-3 minutes to load the M2 server Up. and 3 minutes each test phase. Refresing the drop files takes 5 seconds on an empty test server. and adapting the numbers to test would take 2-3 mins, so Yes would take 20-30 mins but not enough time to say impossible to change.

Im not demanding anything, but saying its to late to add a little something isn't impossible, id rather you just say we don't want to add items.

Its just a simple fact, adding items to events gets people interested. If you leave the event like the easter one. People wont care about Temp kit. Unless it has aspeed+2 on rings neckys and weapons. Just an honest opinon.

Testing drops is the most time consuming aspect of anything we do on Mir unfortunately... If it was 20-30mins max then me and BH would be much happier people.

Lets take a quick example from your list above

1/10000 DragonSlayer

Now assuming you were intending this as a rare chance from a normal Christmas mob, lets say 100 Christmas mobs get killed across 5 maps in an hour (history has taught us it will in fact be much higher than this, easter event was in the 800-1000)... That is 500 mobs an hour, and lets say people hunt these continuously for 10 hours, totaling in 5000 mobs. In a nut shell the above script could introduce 1x Dragon Slayer, 1x DragonStaff, 1x SoulSabre per day for 14 days, totaling in 42 40+ items (depending on spawns etc of course), if, we had similar spawns and turn out to the easter event you would have introduced double (84) the amount.

Drops are not something we would want to rush.

But I am looking forward to the event :D

Sam
 

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Samuel, my old friend.

When is even starting? I'm bored at work and wanted to play.
 

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Samuel, my old friend.

When is even starting? I'm bored at work and wanted to play.

I am at work at the moment, I plan on finishing up early so I can come home and get the event ready for you my lovely man.

EDIT: After posting I realized I didn't answer your question in the slightest lol... I am planning on taking the server down at either 5pm or 6pm GMT, and bringing it back up at 8pm... There is a lot to do, hence the added down time.

Sam
 

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I am at work at the moment, I plan on finishing up early so I can come home and get the event ready for you my lovely man.

EDIT: After posting I realized I didn't answer your question in the slightest lol... I am planning on taking the server down at either 5pm or 6pm GMT, and bringing it back up at 8pm... There is a lot to do, hence the added down time.

Sam
I see..! I'll be able to play at work tomorrow at least!
 

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Testing drops is the most time consuming aspect of anything we do on Mir unfortunately... If it was 20-30mins max then me and BH would be much happier people.

Lets take a quick example from your list above



Now assuming you were intending this as a rare chance from a normal Christmas mob, lets say 100 Christmas mobs get killed across 5 maps in an hour (history has taught us it will in fact be much higher than this, easter event was in the 800-1000)... That is 500 mobs an hour, and lets say people hunt these continuously for 10 hours, totaling in 5000 mobs. In a nut shell the above script could introduce 1x Dragon Slayer, 1x DragonStaff, 1x SoulSabre per day for 14 days, totaling in 42 40+ items (depending on spawns etc of course), if, we had similar spawns and turn out to the easter event you would have introduced double (84) the amount.

Drops are not something we would want to rush.

But I am looking forward to the event :D

Sam

I get it, I was just hoping items would be involved other than just for the big guilds getting the boss during this event, but what do I know, we will see tonight I spose :D
 

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I get it, I was just hoping items would be involved other than just for the big guilds getting the boss during this event, but what do I know, we will see tonight I spose :D

Items are involved for the smaller guilds and casual players
There is a main Boss for the bigger guilds and a sub boss for casuals

The event is a mix of temp items, presents (with items) permanent items, a present for all players on Christmas day and just a bit of fun

BH
 
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I am at work at the moment, I plan on finishing up early so I can come home and get the event ready for you my lovely man.

EDIT: After posting I realized I didn't answer your question in the slightest lol... I am planning on taking the server down at either 5pm or 6pm GMT, and bringing it back up at 8pm... There is a lot to do, hence the added down time.

Sam

That means I can wrap present between 5 and 8pm!
 

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Sweet, Thanks for the info!

I can only hope for the best now!