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SmavidDavid

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Worthing is depressing.
I completely agree personally, but I wrote this on behalf of some guild members who feel injustice.

Nice to see somebody here who actually has a brain regarding this whole situation. I would say the people who did abuse it deserve harsher responses than those with intent, at the same time everybody knows exploiting can backfire and for those unfortunate couple who were only on the hunt for boss'ing should maybe direct anger towards the guild and not the server team.
 

CrazyBear...

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Nice to see somebody here who actually has a brain regarding this whole situation. I would say the people who did abuse it deserve harsher responses than those with intent, at the same time everybody knows exploiting can backfire and for those unfortunate couple who were only on the hunt for boss'ing should maybe direct anger towards the guild and not the server team.

The players with intent got punished more severe than the players who were involved. Atleast the players involved gained some exp while doing it.
 

Silencer

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My only issue is, I rarely get a chance to play, I level incredibly slowly, about 6 weeks to do what was taken off me, for something I didn't do?

That feels a tad extreme to receive that level of punishment for not commiting a crime, or even wanting to.

I wasn't even online when the exploit was done -_-

On the 2nd night, I specifically stayed ungrouped during GK and subs, so as to not receive any exp....
 

bayya

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you really want to punish people for intent?
that cannot be right which ever way you look at it.
you get punished for what it can be proved that you have done.
Especially given the other anomalies around here. Gold selling is bannable Gold buying isnt.
The exploit was fixed it seems before the second night.
There fore only the people who were there the first night managed to exploit the bug.
Crystal clear
 

Loosecannon

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It looks like your appealing to the severity of this *quick*slap...on review , try this....intent =1 de lvl ..exploit = ban
I'd say as it stands as a guild you ve got off lightly ..let it go

As for kori that's where the real issue is I'm afraid...All those I'm mightier than thou statements to be caught red handed .He definitely got off light .He will get that lvl back in 1 day

Waiting with interest to see what happens with the scripting issue.....DDs botters were banned outright

auto sunspot scripting is the same and users should be dealt with as DDs scripters

and before anyone says they made £££ botting
dropping items to an auto sunpotter is no different
got off lightly??? losing a full lvl is getting off lightly when you didnt make a single exp of anything. to be fair though if i dont get my lvl handed back to me they mayaswell of banned my account coz ill be leaving anyway so will many others that are not guilty,who are you gonna hate ingame then? enjoy killing youre bosses with no competition that will be fun><.

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Nice to see somebody here who actually has a brain regarding this whole situation. I would say the people who did abuse it deserve harsher responses than those with intent, at the same time everybody knows exploiting can backfire and for those unfortunate couple who were only on the hunt for boss'ing should maybe direct anger towards the guild and not the server team.
if the server team cant check logs then my anger is still pointed towards them.if they new i was in that cave on the second night then surely they will know what exp i received.or cant they be arsed or is it that im being made an example if im being made an example off then they can politly piss off.
 
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bayya

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It looks like your appealing to the severity of this *quick*slap...on review , try this....intent =1 de lvl ..exploit = ban
I'd say as it stands as a guild you ve got off lightly ..let it go👍

As for kori that's where the real issue is I'm afraid..
Waiting with interest to see what happens with the scripting issue.
Obsessive or what?
May I ask how you found out about the script?
Seems someone posted something asking whether it was a cheat or not on this forum a while back. Surely many experimented with it themselves after they saw that clue.
So did someone in your guild discover it?
May I ask why you posted it publicly instead of doing it privately to one of the devs? You have been asked to do this many times.
Looks very like you are on a emotional mission to stir up trouble not help the game to be run well.
 

Shane/Banshee

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Motive and intent.

Just because you were unable to commit the crime doesn't negate the fact you still intended to.

To summarise: UNLUCKY BRUH

i actually logged when they started, its clear by the logs if they can check
 

SmavidDavid

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Worthing is depressing.
got off lightly??? losing a full lvl is getting off lightly when you didnt make a single exp of anything. to be fair though if i dont get my lvl handed back to me they mayaswell of banned my account coz ill be leaving anyway so will many others that are not guilty,who are you gonna hate ingame then? enjoy killing youre bosses with no competition that will be fun><.

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if the server team cant check logs then my anger is still pointed towards them.

They should do if they can prove who had and hadn't gained EXP from this, but it would be very hard for them to prove who was in it for the exploit and who was there just for a hunt. Sadly, you are caught in a ring where there's only one exit and that unfortunately what you guys have to take. Hopefully as a guild though they can help regain that exp.

Again, it is not pretty but its a sure load better than getting banned as some people wanted.
 

Loosecannon

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They should do if they can prove who had and hadn't gained EXP from this, but it would be very hard for them to prove who was in it for the exploit and who was there just for a hunt. Sadly, you are caught in a ring where there's only one exit and that unfortunately what you guys have to take. Hopefully as a guild though they can help regain that exp.

Again, it is not pretty but its a sure load better than getting banned as some people wanted.
if a gm would say that then ill take it and be on my merry way,its all i want to hear from 1 of them,and i dont want to hear about weve been at work bs they earn enough of ppl like me so i demand a response.
 

Jamie

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Banshee/Loosecannon/Sylphrena - that I know of so far, lost a full level and didn't exploit.

Well I've made an attempt to contact the GM's on behalf of banshee, hopefully they will revise this.

He lost a whole level and is now 1 level behind my character (Firephoenix), When we both stopped playing many months ago we were very similar in percent (same level). That alone should be evident enough that he didn't participate in any exploit.
 

Silencer

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Well I've made an attempt to contact the GM's on behalf of banshee, hopefully they will revise this.

He lost a whole level and is now 1 level behind my character (Firephoenix), When we both stopped playing many months ago we were very similar in percent (same level). That alone should be evident enough that he didn't participate in any exploit.

Yeah I was 47 and 20 before the exploit, I was 47 and 22 last night - which is weeks later.... and today 46 and 27, hardly seems justified.
 

bumonyourlips

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There was only one group there on the first night. Punishing people for intent on the second night, even if you could prove intent, is a overly harsh in a game where most people would exploit if given the opportunity. (Don't reply saying you wouldn't you spotty virgins)

The amount of exp gained being thrown about is being massively exaggerated. Everyone there used exp pots - we were in there for a little over 3 hours, I did about 30% at level 46 - I will post screen shots when I get home. Which I recon saved us about 3-4 hours.


As bad as the exploit seems to you all who wern't there, sitting on your high horses, the exploit saved 11 of us about 4 hours worth of leveling, we didn't **** the economy, we didn't crash the server, ****, we had to battle gate keeper to get through and the spawns weren't exactly regular. Only one of the group could activate the bug so the rest of us had to stand around in awkward silence on TS, it was like being at a mir meet with girls, now I think about it it was a ball ache.


The fact people like loose have been punished by this makes a mockery of the server team, who until this point I believe were very professional in the way they handled things. I've taken my punishment, I think it's harsh but fair and just about the level to make me still log on at weekends. But to take away levels from people like loose and the other people who wern't there makes me lose all trust in buying more GG, which I use for exp pots and HTs. I mean why spend money if it can be taken away with no good reason? If you argue that intent is good enough reason, you are a dlckhead.


/bumbum
 

+ULFBERH+T

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you all got off lightly, if you put the same effort into legit leveling that you do into crying, you'll soon gain it back.
 

Loosecannon

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you all got off lightly, if you put the same effort into legit leveling that you do into crying, you'll soon gain it back.
i and many others that have been delvled exp is all legit so once again shut up you little cretin and stop winding crap up.
 
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