- Jul 21, 2004
- 1,806
- 18
- 265
Yeah, you usualy get a decent benefit when playing games with a better graphics card.
Besides, the AMD 6000+ is a fantastic CPU.
/Ash
After new pc
- Thread starter Skyline
- Start date
Yeah, you usualy get a decent benefit when playing games with a better graphics card.
Besides, the AMD 6000+ is a fantastic CPU.
/Ash
Really thats the only thing you are lacking.. that CPU + GFX Card will make all the difference, and since your using Vista(i take it since you got 4Gb ram), you will be able to take advantage of DX10 whenever thats available. My current setup runs WOW max setting @ over 100fps in most places ( took 60fps limit off), so that would be the way i would go about it.
- Mar 5, 2005
- 1,085
- 2
- 125
Might i just add the 7750 is faster than the 6000+ @ 2.7Ghz while the 6000+ is at 3.0/3.1 Ghz, its based on the Phenom archi, it is better than the E5200 at stock and outperforms in a lot of benches. If Skyline is willing to get an AMD, i really wouldn't recommend getting a Windsor/Brisbane right now as there better for near enough the same price.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-athlon-x2-7750-be-review/
EDIT: Is your Motherboard AM2+? link isn't working.
Last edited:
- Jul 21, 2004
- 1,806
- 18
- 265
Well, take this advice then Skyline, if your okay waiting.
I do realise that Clock speed isn't everything though.
/Ash
Btw Skyline, XP doesnt support 4GB of ram, you would have to move to Vista
XP = Supports 3.5GB ram
Btw i would go with the X2 7750, i never hunted about on price but you can pick one up for the same price as the X2 6000+.
CPU - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=933803&source=froogle
GFX - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=933803&source=froogle
Within your price range, and would turn out a nice pc.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/22/athlon-x2-7750-vs-intel-e5200-oc-review/4
As you can see here, you will get a little bump on the gaming performance over the 6000+, alough they are still very close.
XP = Supports 3.5GB ram
Btw i would go with the X2 7750, i never hunted about on price but you can pick one up for the same price as the X2 6000+.
CPU - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=933803&source=froogle
GFX - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=933803&source=froogle
Within your price range, and would turn out a nice pc.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/22/athlon-x2-7750-vs-intel-e5200-oc-review/4
As you can see here, you will get a little bump on the gaming performance over the 6000+, alough they are still very close.
Last edited:
- Jul 21, 2004
- 1,806
- 18
- 265
i know Xp doesnt mate, but as I said was jsut as cheap to buy it as a double of 2gig than buy single
If you do get these upgrades, get using Vista.
It seems alot more responsive and generaly nicer to use. Despite the mound of problems with drivers at release.
/Ash
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512M...-Mem-993MHz-GDDR3-GPU-625MHz-2x-DL-DVI-I-HDTV
Sorry m8 didnt check it,
Sorry m8 didnt check it,
- Mar 5, 2005
- 1,085
- 2
- 125
Looks like I cantuse the CPU with my mobo?
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1585&maincat_no=1#menu
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1585&maincat_no=1#menu
XP HOME on 32bit doesn't support 4GB, but windows XP PRO CORP does support upto 6gb.
Oh and you can get around this and increase it to support upto 1GB more.
Ahh i see where you are coming from its a socket AM2+ CPU.. and your mobo only has support for Socket AM2. Right what i would do here then is go for the
AMD 6000+ - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-6000plus-AM2-Dual-Core-31GHz-1MB-Cache-89W-Retail
AMD 6400+ - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-...Windsor-Core-Dual-Core-32GHz-1MB-Cache-Retail
Really depends on what you want to spend, as i posted before the results in the 6000+ benchmarks v 7750 really arent big at all..so you arent exactly loosing out, and the CPU is a nice one will do everything you need of it matched with that GFX card. For WOW its perfect.
Hope you get it setup soon.
Last edited:
- Mar 5, 2005
- 1,085
- 2
- 125
If you mean whats the difference in the Black Edition and normal edition. Its basically only the Black Edition's have unlocked multipliers for overclocking.
side question...
what's the difference (for example on a Q9550 it's locked to 6.0-8.5)
8.5*400 = 3400
6.0*566 = 3400
is there a power/temperature difference? (assuming they are all stable)
I use 400 because it's 1:1 with my DDR2-800.
Yes it equals the same speed, but with the
8.5*400 = 3.4GHz / DDR800 (Are you sure your ram is still running @ DDR 800?)
6.0*566 = 3.4GHz / DDR1132
I notice you are already running a 600ish MHz overclock on it just now yes? Did you just dive straight in a up the FSB?
Usually 8.5*333 = 2.83 GHz / DDR800
You cant just throw settings about like that.. you would need to start from scratch, loosen all your ram timing to the highest you can.. drop the multi to the lowest you can (6 i take it), and find the max FSB of your motherboard(As it may not run at 450 even). When you find that... pick an even devide (e.g say it reaches 500, drop it to 480, if it boots fine on this, then start to up the multi till it doesnt post, then you need to start upping voltages touch by touch till it posts and is stable @ 480 on say *8 multi.)
8.0* 480 = 3.84 GHz / DDR960 and with this always try and keep your ram 1:1, if it wont post with a 1:1 you do loose a lot of performance through lowering it.. (More than likely no chance you will reach this.. but it could be close depending on your motherboard/ram quality)
Basically when you find your mobo's max FSB.. its a balancing act from there, to get the tightest timings on your ram and keeping it stable within a decent temp on your mobo/cpu.
But ive never overclocked a Intel chip/motherboard/DDR2 ram or anything thats been released lately. Last thing i overclocked was the system im using atm in my Sig.. which im not best pleased about.. my RAM is revision 2.1, and doesnt overclock as well as the revision 1.2 sticks(Which go 500MHz+) so they are holding me back from a better overclock on this. But im holding out for my next overclock project
IntelCore2 Duo E8400 or a E8600.. havent decided yet.. i know i will be able to get the E8400 to around 4.3GHz.. but the E8600 will push past 4.5GHz on the water cooling im planning on getting ( As it will do 4.5 on air no problem. )
But if your ram can handle it.. always better going with the lower multi/higher FSB on a 1:1 with the tightest timings you can get. But you will see that while you are in the middle of it with the benchmarks you will have to do to test performance. And dont forget to always keep notes of previous settings and always keep an eye on your temps, also always stress test it for 24hrs using Prime95 torture test to make sure its stable before you go any further. Hope this helps you a little and good luck with your overclock.. hope nothing goes bang
Last edited: