Archer nerfed or not?

[Xena25]

I'm level 28 and have around 16-50 dc, yesterday i was leveling solo in PT lobby and was hitting roughly around 90+ damage now today after the reboot im hitting low 30-50 damage, not sure if your intetions were to nerf archer altogether or just AB? seems im not the only archer ingame that has noticed this.

If this was done intentionally then there was nothing said in the patch notes hence why people get annoyed as you've done it and not said anything.

anyway if it stays same will go back to playing warrior, as archer seemed good fun untill now.

thanks.

 

[Carribean]

yeh its ****ed

 

[Babyhack]

-ArrowBarrage adjusted and made more random (like fs) Only thing changed with Archers, but as with all reports we will look into it BH

 

[Xena25]

Thank you, wasnt sure if it was intentional or not just thought i'd let you know archers damage is alot weaker than before reboot, thanks for quick reply

 

[Xx69xX]

please actually look into it. Don't need another broken flipping class. If your unable to sort out AB properly, then leave it alone until the class is sorted, last thing the server needs is for Archerss and wizzes to be ****. How do you expect us to kill the hardcore stuff if your only ranged classes are pants!?

Forget sorting AB theres nothing at all wrong with it before reboot. You have responded to Crys because TASH only can 2 hit sins. He has the best weapon possible why shouldn't he?

You really think when a warrior gets a SOWG he wont be able to FS a sin dead?

so unfair as per usual.

Like I have said previously: get on the test server, Get a warrior with good gear and SOWG vs a sin with average gear. Youll see what I mean. If you lower AB, for EVERYONE but tash, its gunna be ****. All you have now done, is piss of 99.9% of archers, as he is the only one with stupidly high DC and he will still hurt (but he wont hurt enough to merit how good his kit is).

 

[Babyhack]

please actually look into it. Don't need another broken flipping class. If your unable to sort out AB properly, then leave it alone until the class is sorted, last thing the server needs is for Archerss and wizzes to be ****. How do you expect us to kill the hardcore stuff if your only ranged classes are pants!?

Forget sorting AB theres nothing at all wrong with it before reboot. You have responded to Crys because TASH only can 2 hit sins. He has the best weapon possible why shouldn't he?

You really think when a warrior gets a SOWG he wont be able to FS a sin dead?

so unfair as per usual.

Like I have said previously: get on the test server, Get a warrior with good gear and SOWG vs a sin with average gear. Youll see what I mean. If you lower AB, for EVERYONE but tash, its gunna be ****. All you have now done, is piss of 99.9% of archers, as he is the only one with stupidly high DC.

The thing with Archers is we have no test bed for them and nothing to compare them too (we are the first server afaik to run live with them)
It is a new class that we need to find a balance for without the help of official servers to match up too, so this is what makes it hard to do.

Mature feedback from players helps us to do this. AB needed to be adjusted as no ranged class should be able to 1 or 2 hit other classes.

As has been said AB is now like flaming sword, it scales with skill level (level 1 FS is rubbish, level 3 is not) AB is now the same as this.

We are still looking into it as some players seem to be not happy with the changes, it is just a case og trying to find a middle ground.

BH

 

[rayray]

The thing with Archers is we have no test bed for them and nothing to compare them too (we are the first server afaik to run live with them)
It is a new class that we need to find a balance for without the help of official servers to match up too, so this is what makes it hard to do.

Mature feedback from players helps us to do this. AB needed to be adjusted as no ranged class should be able to 1 or 2 hit other classes.

As has been said AB is now like flaming sword, it scales with skill level (level 1 FS is rubbish, level 3 is not) AB is now the same as this.

We are still looking into it as some players seem to be not happy with the changes, it is just a case og trying to find a middle ground.

BH

good job team.

AB was seriously overpowered. and any1 that has the cheek to say it does **** damage now is just trololin

i mean is there even any1 ingame with lvl 3 arrow barrage ?

and yes fair enough tash has got 43 weapon.. (well done £ clap clap £ ) but look at the rest of his kit... there **** all special about it..

so i dno why this guy above thinks his damage should be so insane but he's wrong.

if he has epic kit all dc+3 then yes .. that mother f*cker should hurt. but he doesnt have that kit.

( on a side note, archer's do you understand that arrow barrage is your *nuke* spell, when you beat your opponent down to like 1/3 hp, you unleash your arrow barrage to either kill him or leave him 1 fireshot away from death.)

its not ment to be a spell that hits for 60-85% hp depends on your stat's. if it was then to win the game all u need is a grp of 4-5 archers with AB...they will 1 hit any1 easily and then 1 hit the next person after 15 sec cooldown lol

 

[LordOfWar1]

Problem is AB was slightly op but you could survive it with a tiger...best thing to do is to not allow AB to crit in pvp as without crit it cant 1 hit anyone untill a archer gets it lvl 3...i would say the next step for balance is to nerf warriors or buff sins and wizards

 

[Xx69xX]

The thing with Archers is we have no test bed for them and nothing to compare them too (we are the first server afaik to run live with them)
It is a new class that we need to find a balance for without the help of official servers to match up too, so this is what makes it hard to do.

Mature feedback from players helps us to do this. AB needed to be adjusted as no ranged class should be able to 1 or 2 hit other classes.

As has been said AB is now like flaming sword, it scales with skill level (level 1 FS is rubbish, level 3 is not) AB is now the same as this.

We are still looking into it as some players seem to be not happy with the changes, it is just a case og trying to find a middle ground.

BH

Whats wrong with having nothing to compare it with??? Make it your own class... no 1 wants you to 'compare' with anything. Just want you to make it a class worth playing.

I also have another point/question. Why is it ok for a Melee class to be able to 1 hit people but a ranged not? (even though ONLY Tash can 1 hit Low geard Sins/Wizz with shield down) A Warrior with a SOWG will one hit loads of people.

Also my Feedback is totally Mature and acceptable comments. I play 3 classes, When sins got nerfed, I BARELY said anything, as I can solo bosses just cant pk warriors at all. So theres still positivity. An Archer with Amazing gear cant solo decent bosses, now they wont be able to pk much either.

Lets put it another way. On this server, Its easy to make gold, which makes life easy to have full bags of pots etc. Meaning that when I run into an archer on my Sin (with crappy health pool) I know im gunna survive, because im gunna be able to pot through it. Lowering AB only strengthens that comment.

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good job team.

AB was seriously overpowered. and any1 that has the cheek to say it does **** damage now is just trololin

i mean is there even any1 ingame with lvl 3 arrow barrage ?

and yes fair enough tash has got 43 weapon.. (well done £ clap clap £ ) but look at the rest of his kit... there **** all special about it..

so i dno why this guy above thinks his damage should be so insane but he's wrong.

if he has epic kit all dc+3 then yes .. that mother f*cker should hurt. but he doesnt have that kit.

( on a side note, archer's do you understand that arrow barrage is your *nuke* spell, when you beat your opponent down to like 1/3 hp, you unleash your arrow barrage to either kill him or leave him 1 fireshot away from death.)

its not ment to be a spell that hits for 60-85% hp depends on your stat's. if it was then to win the game all u need is a grp of 4-5 archers with AB...they will 1 hit any1 easily and then 1 hit the next person after 15 sec cooldown lol

Oh my Days,

BABY I really hope its not Retards like this your listening too, I mean read his last part, (4/5 Archers with AB ballcrap hes talking about) If 5 archers run in Fire shooting any one, they are going to get u in 1 hit, But you obviously are just too stupid to understand this.

 

[rayray]

Whats wrong with having nothing to compare it with??? Make it your own class... no 1 wants you to 'compare' with anything. Just want you to make it a class worth playing.

I also have another point/question. Why is it ok for a Melee class to be able to 1 hit people but a ranged not? (even though ONLY Tash can 1 hit Low geard Sins/Wizz with shield down) A Warrior with a SOWG will one hit loads of people.

Also my Feedback is totally Mature and acceptable comments. I play 3 classes, When sins got nerfed, I BARELY said anything, as I can solo bosses just cant pk warriors at all. So theres still positivity. An Archer with Amazing gear cant solo decent bosses, now they wont be able to pk much either.

Lets put it another way. On this server, Its easy to make gold, which makes life easy to have full bags of pots etc. Meaning that when I run into an archer on my Sin (with crappy health pool) I know im gunna survive, because im gunna be able to pot through it. Lowering AB only strengthens that comment.

i doubt that war's will be 1 hitting often tbh but yeh its possable, but they first have to catch who they want to hit and if that person know's that war is gona 1 hit them, wel then he isnt gona stop until the war is a reasonable distance away, and if he does stop then he deserve's whats comin to him lol.

difference is an archer can walk onto the screen and 1 bang ppl with ease due to ranged ability. ranged characters have never had the ability too 1 bang any class.

 

[noisound]

Trying to get archers boosted? :P haha, if anyone's complaining about AB being "nerfed" be quiet its far too OP. even archers are agreeing ingame lol

 

[rayray]

Oh my Days,

BABY I really hope its not Retards like this your listening too, I mean read his last part, (4/5 Archers with AB ballcrap hes talking about) If 5 archers run in Fire shooting any one, they are going to get u in 1 hit, But you obviously are just too stupid to understand this.

shut ur face dickhead. you want a ranged character to do more dps than a sin and warrior that has to catch the opponents b4 they can even attack them

grease ur ass up and slide on rat.

 

[Xx69xX]

Trying to get archers boosted? :P haha, if anyone's complaining about AB being "nerfed" be quiet its far too OP. even archers are agreeing ingame lol

5/6 Archers ingame I know of with AB, Im pretty sure its none of these that agree, its the crys of archers without AB.

Now they are gunna have to pay 20-30m for a spells that aint worth it lol.

 

[reecew]

that's the thing i don't understand at all tiger neckys made it easy to avoid archer damage and you go and completely **** archers up.. what will they do now vs someone with a tiger neck on? hit 90 with arrow barrage? or completely miss what kind of nuke spell hits 90's? makes 0 sense at all you nerf a class and tiger is left the same.

all the people moaning were clearly the people who dont use/own a tiger neck... and again GM's give in to a few threads... like always.
( I DON'T PLAY ARCHER ) you just made them totally redundant class.

 

[Xx69xX]

Oh my Days,

BABY I really hope its not Retards like this your listening too, I mean read his last part, (4/5 Archers with AB ballcrap hes talking about) If 5 archers run in Fire shooting any one, they are going to get u in 1 hit, But you obviously are just too stupid to understand this.

shut ur face dickhead. you want a ranged character to do more dps than a sin and warrior that has to catch the opponents b4 they can even attack them

grease ur ass up and slide on rat.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a child on our hands, Quick some 1 get the nappies, ill grab the dummies, and can we please, please have a cleaner here as his toys have been thrown EVERYWHERE.

Side note: Once again, If Its This plum you've listen too, Just read a few of his Immature responses. Hope its not from people like this you take advice on your server.

 

[LordOfWar1]

its true if anyone should be able to 1 hit a character in pvp...it should be somebody who cant do it 15 steps away...it should be somebody who needs to be next to you, so you cant easily do it

maybe make AB scale to how far away they are from you? the closer they are the more dmg and the further away the less dmg (much less)

 

[daneo1989]

Either way you can never win.. People will always moan regarding how OP certain spells are.. My advice would be grow up its a game... If you don't like it... Don't play it...

 

[Exwizz]

good job team.

AB was seriously overpowered. and any1 that has the cheek to say it does **** damage now is just trololin

i mean is there even any1 ingame with lvl 3 arrow barrage ?

and yes fair enough tash has got 43 weapon.. (well done £ clap clap £ ) but look at the rest of his kit... there **** all special about it..

so i dno why this guy above thinks his damage should be so insane but he's wrong.

if he has epic kit all dc+3 then yes .. that mother f*cker should hurt. but he doesnt have that kit.

( on a side note, archer's do you understand that arrow barrage is your *nuke* spell, when you beat your opponent down to like 1/3 hp, you unleash your arrow barrage to either kill him or leave him 1 fireshot away from death.)

Its tits like this what ruin servers.

Lets straighten a few things out because you're a clueless moron (as i stated ingame).

Potato farmer seems think because he has luck 7 he can go around smashing the server up because he has luck 7, when matter of fact hes slow and just a overall terrible sin.. who runs into fights 5v1 dies and says "archers op", this guy is a joke and if the gms are listening to people like this then this isnt the server for me.

AB needed tweaking but not to be made completely usless IE. one fireshot does more damage than AB, you say that AB is our nuke spell and we should be using it when players are 1/3 of hp.. well you're wrong because there is also another aspect of the game which totally ****s archers along with the disgusting nerf they just got which is called a tiger necky.. Im lucky if i can hit 1/4 ABs and 1 in 3 fireshots when some1 is wearing a tiger necky.

its not ment to be a spell that hits for 60-85% hp depends on your stat's. if it was then to win the game all u need is a grp of 4-5 archers with AB...they will 1 hit any1 easily and then 1 hit the next person after 15 sec cooldown lol

How can this only apply for archers? if 4-5 warriors went up and flaming sworded one person they would drop like a fly also?

Your argument is flawed and your a retard so **** off?

 

[noisound]

5/6 Archers ingame I know of with AB, Im pretty sure its none of these that agree, its the crys of archers without AB.

Now they are gunna have to pay 20-30m for a spells that aint worth it lol.

The cry's are obviously going to happen if AB is hitting over 600-700+ on wars.... trying to tell me that's not OP lol.

 

[Xx69xX]

Either way you can never win.. People will always moan regarding how OP certain spells are.. My advice would be grow up its a game... If you don't like it... Don't play it...

I agree with this comment, apart from the last little bit, You cant just have it so people don't wanna play, if the people don't ply, then there's nothing to play. Server owners have to try their best to make people want to play to make it successful.
Im replying now more than ever, because both main classes I play have been fked. But this for an archer is HUGE as they cant solo bosses, and now, since reboot have little chance pvp vs any one with speed/Decent gear, Damage is awful now and The main spell has been completely destroyed.