Archer nerfed or not?
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I dont play an archer.
there was nothing wrong with arrow barrage.
and there certainly was nothing wrong with any of the other skills.
give a warrior SOWG/rage and some decent dc kit and see how much damage they do.
give a sin 43 blades and all their skills and some decent kit and see how much they do. they would also kill any other class before they knew what hit them.... we're just all fortunate that the sin with the 43 blades at the moment is euro... and hes totally useless even with swiftfeet. infact most sins with swiftfeet ive noticed are totally useless, its a total waste on them.
anyway... you get the picture. if you compare the other classes with similar items/books of the same tier as tash then they would also cain people in a few hits.
curse isnt in game yet. that would counter archers pretty nicely as they would be sitting ducks and would be dead in seconds.
FF still not ingame and wizzies other skills need a buff.
the issue isnt the archers damage (tash shouldnt be the one youre comparing damage to... all the other archers in game and ive not seen them 1 shot me on my sin... there is a massive CD on AB and its countered with tigerneckies.
the nerf that it has been given shouldnt have been so drastic, it now does less damage than fireshot did. (which is now also screwed due to complete incompetance)
unfortunately, it seems everytime something new has been implemented to the server that there has been a major screw up.(6 dark armours in a week) (vipers: Evil hogs dropping 40 weapons and and dropping rares with every kill...then totally going the other way when nerfed and now evil hogs only drop pots... with the odd AC gem)
now archers have been made redundant.
we've got new content added which is totally retarded as that is broken aswell.
before you sort your old problems out youre creating yourself some new problems.
Fix wizards and fix archers. just put them back to how they were if you want.. i wasnt complaining and i dont even have an archer. youre going to kill your server, which is a shame because youve done a good job with the anti cheats etc.
if you havent noticed, the people moaning about archers before were still playing the game... now youve just destroyed the class, how many people who actually played archers do you think are going to quit? i already know a few who have gone and its a shame when i personally saw nothing wrong with them.
just put archers back to how they were and focus on sorting wizards
then tweak sins so that flashdash isnt totally pointless. there are a few options which could fix it.....
1: make it so it doesnt interrupt doubleslash so much
2:make it do damage. it should really do 100+ damage in 30 weapon/powerrings/knightbracers/bead ...
3:make it proc more often(last resort)
- flashdash should not lower your overall dc by so much, it takes too long to cast, does no damage and sometimes wont proc before you kill a mob(and i mean like a PB mob)
there was nothing wrong with arrow barrage.
and there certainly was nothing wrong with any of the other skills.
give a warrior SOWG/rage and some decent dc kit and see how much damage they do.
give a sin 43 blades and all their skills and some decent kit and see how much they do. they would also kill any other class before they knew what hit them.... we're just all fortunate that the sin with the 43 blades at the moment is euro... and hes totally useless even with swiftfeet. infact most sins with swiftfeet ive noticed are totally useless, its a total waste on them.
anyway... you get the picture. if you compare the other classes with similar items/books of the same tier as tash then they would also cain people in a few hits.
curse isnt in game yet. that would counter archers pretty nicely as they would be sitting ducks and would be dead in seconds.
FF still not ingame and wizzies other skills need a buff.
the issue isnt the archers damage (tash shouldnt be the one youre comparing damage to... all the other archers in game and ive not seen them 1 shot me on my sin... there is a massive CD on AB and its countered with tigerneckies.
the nerf that it has been given shouldnt have been so drastic, it now does less damage than fireshot did. (which is now also screwed due to complete incompetance)
unfortunately, it seems everytime something new has been implemented to the server that there has been a major screw up.(6 dark armours in a week) (vipers: Evil hogs dropping 40 weapons and and dropping rares with every kill...then totally going the other way when nerfed and now evil hogs only drop pots... with the odd AC gem)
now archers have been made redundant.
we've got new content added which is totally retarded as that is broken aswell.
before you sort your old problems out youre creating yourself some new problems.
Fix wizards and fix archers. just put them back to how they were if you want.. i wasnt complaining and i dont even have an archer. youre going to kill your server, which is a shame because youve done a good job with the anti cheats etc.
if you havent noticed, the people moaning about archers before were still playing the game... now youve just destroyed the class, how many people who actually played archers do you think are going to quit? i already know a few who have gone and its a shame when i personally saw nothing wrong with them.
just put archers back to how they were and focus on sorting wizards
then tweak sins so that flashdash isnt totally pointless. there are a few options which could fix it.....
1: make it so it doesnt interrupt doubleslash so much
2:make it do damage. it should really do 100+ damage in 30 weapon/powerrings/knightbracers/bead ...
3:make it proc more often(last resort)
- flashdash should not lower your overall dc by so much, it takes too long to cast, does no damage and sometimes wont proc before you kill a mob(and i mean like a PB mob)
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Promise rewinds if the testers leak info or take your time picking the testers (or pick people from the smaller guilds who don't do a lot of bosses and are unlikely to leak to those who can do OKS/Warlord/etc.).
There has to be a way because let's be honest, there's no way for you two to test even the changes for this patch fully, let alone a more massive one like 2.0.
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Why not pick a tester from every guild that way no one guild gets the advantage and helps prevent the majority of this from happening again
Yehh when babyhack asked me to test fireshot i had +2 curse and i hit good.. it was obviously lucky hits because after 1hour of hitting mobs it sucks still in orcs i was hitting an average of 150-200 now im struggling to hit over 100 now with a few lucky hits of 120-150, im really am baffled to what you've done to the spells
Nothing has been changed since then, so this is very very odd.
Might be something to do with the defense on Orc monsters
BH
- Dec 2, 2005
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cba to even come ingame to try this, so annoyed about it to be fair. I cba to play until its reverted or sins are upped, if not i spose i wont play.
oh and btw babyhack he has level 40 bow and great kit.
Ok thank you for info, I will get onto it
I have his kit on my GM
I have been spending most of the evening fixing this.
Thanks to the help of some players.
BH
- Dec 2, 2005
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i completley appreciate this, everything has been nerfed on a archer, not just AB, how do u expect us to be helpful, its just an annoying joke. Whole class completley nerfed. ofc were gunna be pissed. I dont understand why your fixing these spells one by one? if it was a bug, why not remove the bug and then everythings back to normal (apart from AB ofc)?.
Only AB was adjusted and this caused a bug across some of the others spells, this is what I am trying to fix.
The way Archer spells work was tweaked and I am just trying to balance them out.
Its a bug but not a bug if that makes sense
BH
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this patch is the greatest patch ever! ive totaly changed my mind about it!!
tears of archers are so sweet! leave archers as they are!
wizzies have done like 3 months of crying with no decent changes! let archers wait a few months :P
if anything gets reverted i think its fair wizzies get revert back to the AceM2 standards! aswell
/Pandoria
tears of archers are so sweet! leave archers as they are!
wizzies have done like 3 months of crying with no decent changes! let archers wait a few months :P
if anything gets reverted i think its fair wizzies get revert back to the AceM2 standards! aswell
/Pandoria
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