ArrowBarrage is very weak
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i dont mean to start a flame war or anything but this should be the case... flamingsword comes in under a normal attack or TDB every now and then.
AB needs an effect like meteorstrike/blizzard when cast (on the caster ie. they freeze on the spot for 1-2seconds). then the stupid damage they had would be a bit more bareable.
AB needs an effect like meteorstrike/blizzard when cast (on the caster ie. they freeze on the spot for 1-2seconds). then the stupid damage they had would be a bit more bareable.
It is a 40+ skill it should hit hard as ****, since the nerfs we only use our archers to clear frozen temple we feel they are that useless lol
AB was never really a problem as such. easy to dodge it/tigerneckies get rid of damage and when u see the animation you can smash a sunpot or 2 as the arrows hit you and youre okay. the damage may have needed a SLIGHT nerf. just not as mental as the nerf actually was.
half the people who were moaning about it have probly left the server now anyway. put it back up. was interesting.
half the people who were moaning about it have probly left the server now anyway. put it back up. was interesting.
Way I see it is this was nerfed on the basis that one player was doing insane damage, Why? Because he had the best kit by far ingame and best wep. Crit was bugged but complete nerf was absolutely unnecessary. I wouldn't personally pay over 1m for the book atm. Piercing shot does more dmg at lv2 -.- fireshot does more at lv2 with buffs up.
There was no math to be done.
I responded to the thread "AB does less damage than fireshot "sometimes"", same as flamingsword. No numbers where mentioned.
I stand and by my idea. Add a movement impairing effect upon casting like blizzard/meteorstrike. And up the damage a little. Slow down the attack aswell. Make it hit 0.5-2 seconds after it is cast.
You could already outsun AB when it was casted unless you were below half. Thats how the spell was supposed to have been used as its a finisher, not a 1hitter. Atm with 94dc im lucky to hit over 200 with it. Fireshots crit for 240. Tash's i've seen do above 300 at times.
imo AB should hit double fireshot,main hit = same as fireshot +2x 50% hits (at lvl 3)
it has a huge cooldown compared to fireshots zero cooler so u can easy fire 3 fireshots off with rapidfire in the time it takes for AB to cooldown,it just means if u get that 1 shot to finish ur opponent youve earnt it by waiting for ur cooldown
i suggest testing this on a lvl 50 archer with a lvl 50 bow etc,and then look into the dc of the lvl 43 bow to see if the overpoweredness lies within the weapons not the spell itself
it has a huge cooldown compared to fireshots zero cooler so u can easy fire 3 fireshots off with rapidfire in the time it takes for AB to cooldown,it just means if u get that 1 shot to finish ur opponent youve earnt it by waiting for ur cooldown
i suggest testing this on a lvl 50 archer with a lvl 50 bow etc,and then look into the dc of the lvl 43 bow to see if the overpoweredness lies within the weapons not the spell itself
quite funny that you just heard about it. I think the communication between you and BH needs some tweeking as well =p
We've been telling BH from the 1st day of the nerf that AB is pretty much useless now. I know Archers who don t even use it anymore. And while you at it, have a look at Decoy as well plz, it seem to fail a lot since the nerf...
Myself and Sam talk daily, this thread was made as this is the next bug that the team has gotten to on the list and info was needed about it
It is not a simply case of changing the database numbers it needs a code fix
As for Decoy, you might be using it wrong, it will not work if you have not selected a target (ie have you mouse pointer over a monster or player)
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the problem with decoy as i see it is the charge time between cast and transfer. atm its Cast-Charge-Transfer-Charge, it should be Cast-Transfer-Charge,the amount of time it takes to charge ur transfer gets u killed if ur stuck making it pointless to try using,but this is the AB thread so il leave it there 4 now :RpS_tongue:
Can you look into the bug that effected all archer skills when AB was nerfed, my damage still seems weaker across the board compared to what it used to be.
Also i think the main issue with AB damage was the crit damage from a high level bow and crafted arrows stacking too well with this skill. Without the crits the damage for AB wasn't too bad before, just the crits made it scale well beyond the skills of other class's.
Also i think the main issue with AB damage was the crit damage from a high level bow and crafted arrows stacking too well with this skill. Without the crits the damage for AB wasn't too bad before, just the crits made it scale well beyond the skills of other class's.
arrow barrage at level 3 should do at least x2 FireShot lvl 3, the critical variable is essential to make it lethal, and not always, but just when it hits the critic. I think Sam had this in mind as he conceived the skill.
before the changes made to Arrow Barrage, the damage was too high.
AB lvl 2 before the change
DMG1 = FireShotDmg (critical chance)
ABdmg = DMG1 +80(or 70 can not remember)% DMG1 +80(or 70 can not remember)% DMG1
ideal ab lvl 3:
DMG1 = FireShotDmg (critical chance)
ABdmg= DMG1 +50%DMG1 + 50% DMG1
before the changes made to Arrow Barrage, the damage was too high.
AB lvl 2 before the change
DMG1 = FireShotDmg (critical chance)
ABdmg = DMG1 +80(or 70 can not remember)% DMG1 +80(or 70 can not remember)% DMG1
ideal ab lvl 3:
DMG1 = FireShotDmg (critical chance)
ABdmg= DMG1 +50%DMG1 + 50% DMG1
No I'm not using it wrong, since the nerf I get every 3-4 times "failed to swap with decoy", it wasn't like this be4
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these threads from Sam were created after he logged ingame and asked people to PM him any issues.
He then said "ill post very brief threads on the forum to ensure i dont forget anything you have said and start working on them asap"
it doesnt indicate that communication is low. its just Sam confiriming that he has heard the people ingame.
maybe posted in a strange way but ah well.
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