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This is a problem.

I applaud the idea, the execution is also almost perfect,

There seems to be a small problem though, sometimes after being in SZ for a while when u return you get asked a question. If you step one spot, this could be out of SZ and get owned. Iv seen ithappen in MW 3-4 times today. 1 Yellow drop. No idea wht it was.

I get that you can say to people dont walk out etc etc... but thats not at all fair... this is yet to happen to me, but if it did and i dropped my items, you sure would lose more than just the botters...

Just a heads up, maybe this could be stealth changed somehow.

Thanks
 

Babyhack

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Thanks for the report,

The question will only appear on entering or exiting safe zone.

We will prob remove the safe zone question but leave the shops one and the low level ones.

Also the time between questions will be adjusted.

This is the first release of the system and it will be adjusted more and more in order to have the minimal impact on players but the max effect on bots.

BH
 

ChaseyLane

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Good to hear and +1 for post was just about to make one saying the same lol :P
 

mooncloud

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any chance on lowering the level of maths :P i dont ave gcse in maths lol
 

Jacko

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I really hope this is a joke post.

The safe zone and shop questions are stuff like, 45+25 and the leveling ones are single digit questions 4+2

BH

If I'd ask you you should add / X and - so these people won't be to retarded to figure out how much their groceries will cost


By the way from experience should a pixel bot be able to answer those questions they just need some time to write it in the bot.
 

Chaiyns

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Every so many authenticates, we should get a valueless (but very bright) mathematics candle, that shines our arithmetic expertise.
 

owen252

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Can I suggest a permanent guard by Numa tele stone? There are often mobs there and any lower level wizzies are going to get decked before they can solve the question if they're not fast.
 

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any chance on lowering the level of maths :P i dont ave gcse in maths lol

Maybe its not a joke post, there are people out there who are actually struggling.
Plenty of people out there do suffer from learning difficulties, and as a bot cant read the time given to answer question could be extended to help these people.

cheers
 

neptuneshaun

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With this new system, if you place in the wrong code to begin with does the answer then change?? I also feel this needs more than just numbers. The the pop up to say something like "please type in dog".
 

Kazababy

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What about the ability to click to move on the minimap, can you have a rethink about allowing us to run again when this is clicked?
 

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What about the ability to click to move on the minimap, can you have a rethink about allowing us to run again when this is clicked?

This has already been reported, posted about in the bug section and fixed in our test client , it will be released to players in the next few days.
Also it has nothing to do with this thread or topic .

BH
 

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With this new system, if you place in the wrong code to begin with does the answer then change?? I also feel this needs more than just numbers. The the pop up to say something like "please type in dog".

Do you feel like it needs more than numbers because botters will think up something to calculate the answer and type it automatically? I'm not sure if this is possible re botters , anyone know? If you add the "please type something" i'm sure they could just write something that enables them to copy the last word typed into the submit box...

If botters are able to get around it (i'm sure time will tell when people suggest they are 100% seeing botters about), if not, i guess nothing needs to change bar making it a bit more user friendly for those that aren't botting :)
 

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Im not a fan of this system at all if im honest, for me, anti bot/cheat systems like this shouldn't be impacting on the general player base. And I cant really see it being a massive obstacle for them, abit more work perhaps but eventually they will find a way around it, and then its just the players left being annoyed by it.

Also, if it is to stay, which I really hope it doesn't, (even one day of it and its annoying enough I didn't bother logging back in last night) but it definitely needs fine-tuning quickly.

People above have posted about possibly being killed exiting sz's, but one of our guildies had the auth pop up mid way through running ZT 7th yesterday, how exactly those 3 maps count as low lvl bot potential maps I don't have a clue, but it instantly doomed him, luckily he didn't drop anything. Another guildie had it in BDD
 

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Im not a fan of this system at all if im honest, for me, anti bot/cheat systems like this shouldn't be impacting on the general player base. And I cant really see it being a massive obstacle for them, abit more work perhaps but eventually they will find a way around it, and then its just the players left being annoyed by it.

Also, if it is to stay, which I really hope it doesn't, (even one day of it and its annoying enough I didn't bother logging back in last night) but it definitely needs fine-tuning quickly.

People above have posted about possibly being killed exiting sz's, but one of our guildies had the auth pop up mid way through running ZT 7th yesterday, how exactly those 3 maps count as low lvl bot potential maps I don't have a clue, but it instantly doomed him, luckily he didn't drop anything. Another guildie had it in BDD

The questions should not be popping up on these maps and for the 2+ hours I was in game last night I had 2 questions

As has been said, it is the first release of the system, if bots manage to get around it then the system can and will be adjusted. The system went live on Sunday, it is now Wednesday and there have been no reported bots so something is working.
The system will be adjusted to make it less of on impact on players, we have always said this.

There are a number of adjustments that can be made it to
Remove safezone questions
Reduce maps that it appears on
No questions if over level 35
adjust the time from 30-45 mins to 1h-1.5h
etc
etc

BH
 

CraiG^

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Maybe its not a joke post, there are people out there who are actually struggling.
Plenty of people out there do suffer from learning difficulties, and as a bot cant read the time given to answer question could be extended to help these people.

cheers

+1 this.

I don't suffer from any learning difficulties but this is a great point.
 

Babyhack

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+1 this.

I don't suffer from any learning difficulties but this is a great point.

As I have already said we will keep improving the system in order to minimize the effect on players

Babyhack said:
The questions should not be popping up on these maps and for the 2+ hours I was in game last night I had 2 questions

As has been said, it is the first release of the system, if bots manage to get around it then the system can and will be adjusted. The system went live on Sunday, it is now Wednesday and there have been no reported bots so something is working.
The system will be adjusted to make it less of on impact on players, we have always said this.

There are a number of adjustments that can be made it to
Remove safezone questions
Reduce maps that it appears on
No questions if over level 35
adjust the time from 30-45 mins to 1h-1.5h
etc
etc

BH