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Kaden

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isnt a rage jus wondering instead of makin stupid changes when u gonna take time 2 balance out the chars? becomin a joke now begining to think u ent got a clue -.-
 

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Only thing that needs changing is

-sins flash dash(needs a buff)
-warriors need a harder time to get high AS
-archers need a little buff
-maybe wiz need adjusting but a lot like the new ninja buff but it seems too much for a mass killing class
 

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Warriors have it hard enough already on getting Aspeed they have to sacrifice minimum 5-10dc to get the decent aspeed you want considering making Gem's fail and quite often might i add, the windmarbles are expensive and hard to get a hold off then one you make the gem, Storm/Freezing 70% of the time DO NOT WORK. So it's a massive waste of time and money but the outcome if it works is rewarded with a nice attack speed. Wizzies on the other hand do a lot of damage now.
 

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if thats the only things that u think need changin no wonder we get bullshit changes with idiots like u on forums.
 

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Warriors have it hard enough already on getting Aspeed they have to sacrifice minimum 5-10dc to get the decent aspeed you want considering making Gem's fail and quite often might i add, the windmarbles are expensive and hard to get a hold off then one you make the gem, Storm/Freezing 70% of the time DO NOT WORK. So it's a massive waste of time and money but the outcome if it works is rewarded with a nice attack speed. Wizzies on the other hand do a lot of damage now.


Im sorry like but a warrior with a DSS and **** kit can 2 hit me, near enough 1 hit me.. warriors have got it way to easy on here.
 

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isnt a rage jus wondering instead of makin stupid changes when u gonna take time 2 balance out the chars? becomin a joke now begining to think u ent got a clue -.-

Fantastically helpful post

Thanks for all the great input, I will use this to balance everything perfect in the next few minutes.

May instead of just moaning, post something that may help

BH
 

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given stacks of info to sam via skype jus reluctant to listen, saying it till im blue in the face
 

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One thing I would have changed for wizards was made the pet tamed times a global change not a change from gameshop
 

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given stacks of info to sam via skype jus reluctant to listen, saying it till im blue in the face

Not sure if you have noticed this but I am not Sam.

Also we both get so much **** on Skype (I do not even use it now) and other chats that we tend to ignore it.

I chat to real life people on chats.
I comunacate with you lot here and on Facebook.

BH
 

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isnt a rage

Proceeds to rage...

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Requires a reboot, which has not happened yet.

BH


Why does this need to happen, fix the bug with FW and wizzys will be perfect.

i know your looking into archers but any chance of this being sorted today, i feel like im playing a gimped class and it sucks.
 

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Why does this need to happen, fix the bug with FW and wizzys will be perfect.

i know your looking into archers but any chance of this being sorted today, i feel like im playing a gimped class and it sucks.

I said it needed a reboot, I never said it was happening.

My test archer, level 40, average kit, level 36 weapon, hits over 100 with 70% of it's attacks and my AB hits 180 on average.

Remember I said some monster are weak to some skills.

What's the problem?

BH
 

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I said it needed a reboot, I never said it was happening.

My test archer, level 40, average kit, level 36 weapon, hits over 100 with 70% of it's attacks and my AB hits 180 on average.

Remember I said some monster are weak to some skills.

What's the problem?

BH

he wants to 1 hit people still
 

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Im sorry like but a warrior with a DSS and **** kit can 2 hit me, near enough 1 hit me.. warriors have got it way to easy on here.

That's why sunnies are in shops and your not gonna stand still while any class beats you down tho are ya lol but alas, when luke logs on let me test my damage on you and i'll judge it from there.
 

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I said it needed a reboot, I never said it was happening.

My test archer, level 40, average kit, level 36 weapon, hits over 100 with 70% of it's attacks and my AB hits 180 on average.

Remember I said some monster are weak to some skills.


What's the problem?

BH

The problem is your testing our MAIN pvp spell on a monster thats weak to fireshot, AB is lucky to hit over 100 on any player and its just not right.

Ok just tested 4 hits on ozzie with AB and average hit was 80-110 (all 3 shots)

Sethus hits me with level 2 flame disruptor and hit 104 without red poison.. im not saying wizzys are op but when my level 40 spell which is level2 ( requires 44 or 43 ) is doing less damage than a wizzys single target spell baring in mind archers are supposed to be the highest dps ingame (so you advertised anyways) its just not right or balanced.
 
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jus done one quick test, BA ok has a few extra hit spaces than HeavenlySword but Dmg shudnt differ TOO much imo specially as sins eventually get CrescentSlash and this why im pointing out HeavenlySwords Dmg

BA level 3 - DC19-65 luck 1 - 10 Hits Avgs 50 dmg with a MAX hit of 67

HS Level 3 DC 18-34 ( lol ) Luck 3 - 10 Hits Avgs 76 Dmg with a MAX hit of 97.


Why can a sin with hardly any kit on deal this much dmg with a skill which gets taken over by CS, IMHO one skill needs buffin or the other nerfing,


no BIASED comments here either cause i love sins always have been a sin they just too broken on here to play even with luck 7 being OP just isnt enjoyable.

Let me no thoughts BH
 

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err i got dc 16-72 luck+7 and my hs barely hits over 160 to targets with no ac. BA is a flinching and luring skill not a dmg skill. Cry more about sins plz makes me laugh.
 

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From what i have seen ingame, wiz are now almost equal to archers in single target damage. This was tested in PB, my archer has 36 wep, the wiz had 30 wep but rest of the gear was equal quality, we both hit around 130 max with red poison on mobs. My archer struggled to hit the 130s without the crit buff active, i didnt use plat arrows as it costs aprox 130/150 gold per arrow which isn't viable for hunting. I can still beat a wiz dps wise if im using rapid fire and standing still but this isnt always viable and cant be kept up 100% of the time.

If boosting archers single target is not an option, then you will need to look at other ways to boost the class. PVE wise we are really bad apart form a few select boss's.
 
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jus done one quick test, BA ok has a few extra hit spaces than HeavenlySword but Dmg shudnt differ TOO much imo specially as sins eventually get CrescentSlash and this why im pointing out HeavenlySwords Dmg

BA level 3 - DC19-65 luck 1 - 10 Hits Avgs 50 dmg with a MAX hit of 67

HS Level 3 DC 18-34 ( lol ) Luck 3 - 10 Hits Avgs 76 Dmg with a MAX hit of 97.


Why can a sin with hardly any kit on deal this much dmg with a skill which gets taken over by CS, IMHO one skill needs buffin or the other nerfing,


no BIASED comments here either cause i love sins always have been a sin they just too broken on here to play even with luck 7 being OP just isnt enjoyable.

Let me no thoughts BH

CS isnt a replacement for HS... CS is more like BA but with (atm) an absurdley huge range