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Kamikaze

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Ye the delayed shout could work to give people a fair chance, also turn PK drops back on!
 

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Ye the delayed shout could work to give people a fair chance, also turn PK drops back on!

Agree on delayed shout would give everyone a fair chance
As for pk drops i'm not sure about this could have a reverse affect and alot would leave.
 

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No, there will be no fair chance in a delayed shout. This will benefit the big guilds who can have someone camp the KR and those who play 24/7. Stop looking for ways around a perfectly healthy system as it will only make it worse.

Instanced boss is the only idea I can come up that gives a chance to smaller guild while maintaining the PvP aspect (yes, you will have to PvP to get to the KR)
 
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By what metric is it a healthy system atm.

I’d bet vast majority of server not in thc or sd haven’t even seen a real boss yet. The complete opposite of a healthy system.

Or alternatively link bosses so 2-3 spawn at once rather than spread out so people can’t get all the bosses
 

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By what metric is it a healthy system atm.

I’d bet vast majority of server not in thc or sd haven’t even seen a real boss yet. The complete opposite of a healthy system.

Or alternatively link bosses so 2-3 spawn at once rather than spread out so people can’t get all the bosses

By what metric? the fairest principle ever, the strong players who have dedicated enough time and resources in a game deserve to have higher chances than those who haven't worked as hard and if you think this is wrong then you shouldn't be playing online games.

The current situation stems from the near-zero gearing progression. High lvl players are annhilating every boss they can because the drop rate from normal mobs is so low that they're not looking to get lucky but to kill enough mobs to get the guaranteed drop as such smaller guilds do not stand a chance. Tbh I don't understand why you would want to kill bosses at such low lvls when you get stronger by lvling but oh well... This is the reason I suggest instanced low lvl boss.
 

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So people who have played longer should get every single boss due to a shout system alerting it to when it spawns ?.

Not played a single mir server before with this system for every boss before and there’s a reason for that.

Breeds the same problem people in smaller guilds don’t get any bosses so strongest members join the top guilds leading to 2 dominate server getting stronger and stronger while rest drop off and quit .

Yes top end players should get Top end bosses, they shouldn’t get every single boss current system is a joke no tangible reason for it. Top 5 bosses absolutely, rest random spawn em
 

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Well you high levels enjoy playing a server that’s empty because people are bored of leveling and can’t get a **** at a boss, as soon as one spawns PokerFace shouts to get Chinese/SD together to go kill it in seconds. The solo/small guilds don’t stand a chance.
 

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That is exactly why I'm suggesting the instanced boss system, stop being so dense to the point of being moronic! Also, Poker's global are only for FD/Queen and Tiger, those are high lvl bosses which is something smaller guilds should forget about for the time being.


Also, it's not the Chinese and SD, it's DareDevils and SD and we do not make groups for low lvl bosses, the only ones farming those is Ace/Kylin and SD has nothing to do with them.
 
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That is exactly why I'm suggesting the instanced boss system, stop being so dense to the point of being moronic! Also, Poker's global are only for FD/Queen and Tiger, those are high lvl bosses which is something smaller guilds should forget about for the time being.

^ stupid alert

Instances will ruin the server.
 

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Instances is stupid as it removes all pvp, means a lot more bosses spawn too so more items flooded into the server also. Also all the bosses you consider to be high level were being killed by guilds of players level 45-55 on GSP/USA
 

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Instances is stupid as it removes all pvp, means a lot more bosses spawn too so more items flooded into the server also. Also all the bosses you consider to be high level were being killed by guilds of players level 45-55 on GSP/USA


Instanced KR is stupid? did you really think you will reach the KR without being stopped by other guilds? yea right, keep dreaming.
 

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Instances is stupid as it removes all pvp, means a lot more bosses spawn too so more items flooded into the server also. Also all the bosses you consider to be high level were being killed by guilds of players level 45-55 on GSP/USA

The only reason instances are being introduced is to attempt to tackle issues regarding with guilds being too large; thus gaining unfair advantage; unfortunately instances do not tackle the core problem at all. All it does is cause other problems instead.

I welcome the fact they’re looking into bosses and trying to make it more fair but quick decisions like this are what is causing 90% of the problems in the first place. What do I mean exactly? For example they will see a thread which has reasonable points and do dramastic changes which affects everyone ie hermit update/experiment change. Both were clearly not thought out properly, for instance after experience changes took place a lot of people were hit soft cap which meant leveling is out of the question. Thus, the only thing they can do is either boss hunt which is overcomed by the numbers of one side.

After a couple of days people will get bored of this routine and will require something else which GMs failed to predict, which leads people rightly to complain about lack of content. I’m not attacking some of their ideas, in fact I liked experience change but this should of been done after the release of a new content. Although, this decision might benefit me I’m afraid instances shall have significant effect in PvP (if it exists at this point) and make this server a truly carebear server where no body/bug items drop, alternative bosses etc. What’s next? multiple hunting grounds as well.
 
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Kamikaze

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Who’s going to camp the KR off a shitty low level instances boss?
 

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Literally just levelling atm bored shitless. Just remove all shouts it’s stupid
 

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Instanced KR is stupid? did you really think you will reach the KR without being stopped by other guilds? yea right, keep dreaming.

Why would any guild waste time, pots and res pills to defend an instanced king room?

You do win though, if you're going to go retard go full retard or go home.

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Kamikaze

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The old system worked and has worked on Mir for nearly 20 years, why change it?
 

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Instanced KR is stupid? did you really think you will reach the KR without being stopped by other guilds? yea right, keep dreaming.

Are you a special kind of stupid... I almost was going to leave it at that, but I’ll expand on this:

Guild 1 and guild 2 have conflict with one another, guild 1 decide they want to stop guild 2 getting boss x, so the next time the global shout goes out they make way to the KR door.... guild 2 don’t show up, but now guild 1 are stuck there camping the KR door just in case they have to stop guild 2 from getting this boss.... because guild 2 know there boss is guaranteed to be there they can just wait and kill it now or 3-4 hours from now, *** it will still be there for the next fortnight if they want to wait that long..... it would just mean every guild get every boss, so the only way to balance that would be to dramatically reduce the boss drop rates so we don’t end up with a gimped economy from an influx and continuous supply of rare items....

Simply, instanced KR’s are silly... I hope that this isn’t the direction the server goes as it would totally suck...

Simple Solution:

KR that require opening - Dungeon shout on opening followed by global shout 1 hour later if boss not killed.
KR that don’t require opening - Dungeon shout after 30 mins of boss spawn, global shout 1 hour after if boss not killed.
World/upper tier Bosses - Global Shout at Spawn (Tiger, Queen & Lair)

This means the top three bosses can still give the PvP to the higher levels that want it, the lower levels have a chance to stumble upon a boss while checking a KR and guilds that have spent an evening opening a KR get chance to do a boss before the rest of the server know it’s up.
 

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I think 10 minute head start to people hunting in dungeon before world shout would be more than sufficient, gives people a little head start!