BUG? Or Bored Gm?

[stephens_l]

What possible reasons are there for a pet just mysteriously dying while in safe zone..

So.. i finish my t storming hunt with a friend and tt back to town. Some player starts asking me about spider so i run back, answer his questions... then 2 mins later my spider mysteriously dies..

- It had been retamed 25 mins earlier so thats not the reason.
- Was in safe zone, no mobs or guards around so that cant be why.

Only thing i can think of is the @kill command?

I wasnt that arsed about the spider really as i was t storming but i dont like the idea that a Gm could be messing with players for their own amusement.

That said, i could be completely wrong and if i am i apologize.

As far as im aware though, the only way a pet can die in a safe zone is if youve just retamed it or the @kill command.

Maybe a GM could shed some light?

Ta

 

[demonical]

Pet chose to commit suicide rather then be ur pet ^^

seriosluy tho i doubt gm would do that, more then likely just a bug.

 

[WildGirl]

How many times did you retame it Ring ? Also how many hours passed since the first time you tamed ?

I believe its about how many hour passed since you 1st tamed it. Might be wrong tho.

 

[stephens_l]

Haha, probably..! Wouldnt blame it after the amount of mobs i was throwing at it ;-)

Well i dont know the GMs personally so i just assumed the worst, i retamed it about 5 times perhaps? But i had it from the previous day so that may well be it.

Sorry Gms if thats the case! Been on the receiving end of some bad Gms before though so just assumed someone was f**ing with me, lol :-P

 

[terriblen]

I am sorry you had a bad experience and your beloved pet died. Personally I would take pets off wizards after level 45 or reduce the number.
So it was a great idea to say on this forum that you thought one of the gms was like that? Weren't you the one with a FT and other pets at the same time? Had that on any other mir ever? Did you mention that you thought it might be wrong compared with all these other mirs with naughty gms?
If you did report it then I apologise for thinking you might be exploiting something in this mir.

 

[WildGirl]

Haha, probably..! Wouldnt blame it after the amount of mobs i was throwing at it ;-)

Well i dont know the GMs personally so i just assumed the worst, i retamed it about 5 times perhaps? But i had it from the previous day so that may well be it.

Sorry Gms if thats the case! Been on the receiving end of some bad Gms before though so just assumed someone was f**ing with me, lol :-P

If my memory ain't failing it was used to be 10-12 hours since the initial tame until it would die when being tame or try to re-tame on euro official server. Since this is a private server, you wouldn't know what exactly to expect.

 

[Babyhack]

Its a time thing and it has always been this way, they used to die after 3 hours but that was changed
The @kill command cant kill a random pet, how the hell could it (@kill Ring PetSpiderNumber4) this would just kill the char Ring
It was very nice of you the blame the GM team without even looking into it, there where no GMs on at the time and what interest would a GM have in killing a random pet spider

IMO taming needs to and should be changed
It should be a case of you have 1 CS or 1 FT or 5 random pets not 1 sub boss and 4 lvl 40+ pets
This post has just highlighted again that I need to talk to Milo and the team about that

BH

 

[Reverance]

Its a time thing and it has always been this way, they used to die after 3 hours but that was changed
The @kill command cant kill a random pet, how the hell could it (@kill Ring PetSpiderNumber4) this would just kill the char Ring
It was very nice of you the blame the GM team without even looking into it, there where no GMs on at the time and what interest would a GM have in killing a random pet spider

IMO taming needs to and should be changed
It should be a case of you have 1 CS or 1 FT or 5 random pets not 1 sub boss and 4 lvl 40+ pets
This post has just highlighted again that I need to talk to Milo and the team about that

BH

I brought it up with Milo and they are aware of it.

 

[stephens_l]

Im not exploiting anything, its been mentioned many times on forum that you can have one major pet and 4 minor. Thats what the Gms decided and tbh i agree. As they would be pretty useless as just one pet without support of others to take hits etc, also no one said anything about the pet being beloved....

I did say in the original post i could be wrong but i wanted to ask the question regardless as i wasn't aware there was any other way a pet could die then the ways i mentioned above.

I have also thanked the Gms numerous times for the free server they provide.

As for you not agreeing us wizards should have pets.. thats a debate im not even going to get into. Its a skill available to us for a reason, as TDB, FS, Curse, Deva etc is available to other classes.

As i said previously, i apologize Gms as it seems i was in the wrong. I dont think i was wrong in asking the question though and i thank you for youre interest in me and my gameplay, lol.

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Change the taming system however you guys want thats not an issue with me. T storming and Ffing is the fastest way to level anyway.

I didnt blame anyone i asked a question, as for the @kill command all you have to do is stand in front of a player or mob and type @kill, i know that from experience.

I dont know the GMs personally so i asked the question. From the reply posts it seems thats not something they would do so I was in the wrong. If a gm thinks i was in the wrong and the fact i stated i very well could be on my original post isnt good enough then by all means give me a ban and remove me from the server.

I have had mixed experiences in the past with Gms, some good some bad. I have apologized, dont regret asking the question though.

 

[Reverance]

Im not exploiting anything, its been mentioned many times on forum that you can have one major pet and 4 minor. Thats what the Gms decided and tbh i agree. As they would be pretty useless as just one pet without support of others to take hits etc, also no one said anything about the pet being beloved....

I did say in the original post i could be wrong but i wanted to ask the question regardless as i wasn't aware there was any other way a pet could die then the ways i mentioned above.

I have also thanked the Gms numerous times for the free server they provide.

As for you not agreeing us wizards should have pets.. thats a debate im not even going to get into. Its a skill available to us for a reason, as TDB, FS, Curse, Deva etc is available to other classes.

As i said previously, i apologize Gms as it seems i was in the wrong. I dont think i was wrong in asking the question though and i thank you for youre interest in me and my gameplay, lol.

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Change the taming system however you guys want thats not an issue with me. T storming and Ffing is the fastest way to level anyway.

I didnt blame anyone i asked a question, as for the @kill command all you have to do is stand in front of a player or mob and type @kill, i know that from experience.

I dont know the GMs personally so i asked the question. From the reply posts it seems thats not something they would do so I was in the wrong. If a gm thinks i was in the wrong and the fact i stated i very well could be on my original post isnt good enough then by all means give me a ban and remove me from the server.

I have had mixed experiences in the past with Gms, some good some bad. I have apologized, dont regret asking the question though.

Sounds like a difference in GM Opinions as Milo has mentioned that it isn't intentional and they just haven't got around to fixing it.

 

[MiloFoxburr]

You're not gonna be banned don't worry, and questions are always welcomed. From my understanding on Official if you have a CS or FT that was the only pet you could have. While we haven't gotten around to it that is our aim.

Also yeah Pets will eventually die, like was said above it used to be fairly short. Not sure what it's set to now but it's clearly a long time if you lasted 5 retames with them

 

[stephens_l]

You're not gonna be banned don't worry, and questions are always welcomed. From my understanding on Official if you have a CS or FT that was the only pet you could have. While we haven't gotten around to it that is our aim.

Also yeah Pets will eventually die, like was said above it used to be fairly short. Not sure what it's set to now but it's clearly a long time if you lasted 5 retames with them

Cheers, sorry for thinking you might harass youre players. Lol :-P

One note on the pet thing though, if you do make the sub boss one pet with no others then i dont think anyone will tame them any more.

Even now its more of a novelty thing, the other wizards above 48 dont seem to bother now they have had them a few times. Thats cos its far faster to t storm and they are not that great.

Khazards pull feature is good for pvp but would be easily singled out and killed if you got in a fight. Its too weak to use with just khazard and you hunting as well. (Without a tao to heal it, also making its poison feature redundant as youve had to take the tao in the first place)

Crystal spider is ok, its best feature is the 3 space attack it does which means it might be of some help in solo t storming situations, that said if you cant have any other pets to take hits like brown frogs its hp will go down pretty quick. Both are pains in the ass to find, spend 10-25 mins searching for one only for it to die then have to rinse and repeat. Lol.

I am the only wiz above 48 that tames them regularly (as far as i know) many people tell me i have a pet fetish. Lol. If you make it so you can only have one i doubt anyone will tame at all. Except for the novelty when you first hit 48.

Anyway its youre server so whatever you do is up to you, thats just my opinion.

 

[Nemo]

You're not gonna be banned don't worry, and questions are always welcomed. From my understanding on Official if you have a CS or FT that was the only pet you could have. While we haven't gotten around to it that is our aim.

Also yeah Pets will eventually die, like was said above it used to be fairly short. Not sure what it's set to now but it's clearly a long time if you lasted 5 retames with them

Dont forget khazard! Unless you've now took that out of being able to be tamed seen as its ridiculously overpowered as a pet?

I assume its after x amount of total hours of being tamed? Not just counting x hours from the first point it got tamed. Because I let mine untame overnight n grab them back the next day.

 

[grimlife]

Mirroring/clone, sub boss + 4 random mobs = no chance for any1 in a 1v1 pvp match.

It should be how it was, either 1 sub boss or 5 random mobs.

 

[stephens_l]

Mirroring/clone, sub boss + 4 random mobs = no chance for any1 in a 1v1 pvp match.

It should be how it was, either 1 sub boss or 5 random mobs.

Hear what you are saying but imagine this. I spend 30 mins finding and taming a crystal spider, 20 mins getting four browns. Maybe 20 mins lvling them in zt.
I go to iwt and start killing bosses, you (lets say you are a level 45 war) come in and want to fight..

One lure of wgs ghouls and iwts and I can guarantee within 5 mins all my pets are dead. I could try t storm and clear mobs but their hp is not finite and I would also have to deal with you attacking me while I do so.

As someone who plays a level 48 wiz on this server I can tell you from experience its not as clear cut as you make it sound.

That said, if the scenario you mentioned were to happen in a province with weak mobs arround I totally agree that you would get owned. Lets be serious tho, its not very often that it would. Lol

 

[WildGirl]

Mirroring/clone, sub boss + 4 random mobs = no chance for any1 in a 1v1 pvp match.

It should be how it was, either 1 sub boss or 5 random mobs.

You can't have Mirroring and 5 pets all together at the same time. As for them in pvp it really depends on where u pvp. If you pvp them close to town, guards will do the honors for you. If you pvp in a cave like OmaCave is a bad idea, any other cave with decent mobs in it will cut wiz the pet/fw privileges.

 

[deano13]

Hear what you are saying but imagine this. I spend 30 mins finding and taming a crystal spider, 20 mins getting four browns. Maybe 20 mins lvling them in zt.
I go to iwt and start killing bosses, you (lets say you are a level 45 war) come in and want to fight..

One lure of wgs ghouls and iwts and I can guarantee within 5 mins all my pets are dead. I could try t storm and clear mobs but their hp is not finite and I would also have to deal with you attacking me while I do so.

As someone who plays a level 48 wiz on this server I can tell you from experience its not as clear cut as you make it sound.

That said, if the scenario you mentioned were to happen in a province with weak mobs arround I totally agree that you would get owned. Lets be serious tho, its not very often that it would. Lol

See from a warriors point of view, you turn up with 5 über pets and lock on skills.... Lil bit unfair dnt you think?

 

[Skepta]

Deano have you noticed if you try to run pvp and just try tap shift when your close to them it can only hit in one direct if your face to face with them, i want 2.3 pvp style where you can constantly have ur hand on the mouse and run around tap shift and hit them from any direction aslong as they are next to you...... Is it only me who wants this?

 

[stephens_l]

Cheers eg, and that's coming from a Tao too :P lol

Don't know about the lock on skills tho m8 as I don't know how to do it. Lol. I do agree there should be no magic lock on tho..

As for a wiz turning up and owning you, i think what i said earlier still stands? A good 50 mins of effort is required before those pets are as you described, i can tell you from experience too the success rate off finding and taming the mini bosses isn't great. You do have to search and them competing with others who want them for drops. (im sure anyone will tell you how difficult it is to beat the hordes that go for khazard) lol. Many times ur not successful and its a good hour or so wasted each attempt which can be sometimes quote frustrating, especially with 1/2 attempts to get such a pet.

Combine that with the fact that (as WG said) if you fight with them in any decent cave you're advantage is pretty much cut short and ur risk of loosing them (and the effort involved in taming them) is quite high.

I guess with anything its something that requires balance. I'm sure the gms will sort it.

 

[deano13]

Deano have you noticed if you try to run pvp and just try tap shift when your close to them it can only hit in one direct if your face to face with them, i want 2.3 pvp style where you can constantly have ur hand on the mouse and run around tap shift and hit them from any direction aslong as they are next to you...... Is it only me who wants this?

I just carnt stand the fact I dnt really have no control over the char whilst pvpin, sometimes yer I can work around it, but sometimes my char will just run in a direction I dnt want it to due the other person being more then 2steps away, and step pvp we'll that's out the door altogether...