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Rollcage

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I do want this server to succeed and I do want the server files to be the best available for both functionality and game play...

With that being said please vote, we have always listened to our players and will continue to do so.

Sam

its nice to see that you listen to the players, just be careful with that, most ppl are idiots n dont know whats best for them.

FIX FIREWALL
 

Reverance

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Tested speed on my tao and i can't see why people are moaning tbh, it's feels exactly how it was on euro, it was far too easy for those 2 classes on this server for too long, it's time they realised it.

For a lot ofus that's why we are playing.
Tsos actually felt fun to play on this server, now they feel like yet crap

You mention we wanted 'euro' - We asked for changes regarding flame field cast speed as it was clearly causing the skill to be far more overpowered than before. Instaff we received a global cast speed change that changes the entire gameplay for two class.

This were com to play solo despite still being slow, now it's back to full slow levelling that feels incredibly boring
 

Prince

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the thing is i can see wht u guys r tryin to see but why do it all at once why cant u change certain skills or fix certain bugs and see how that balances the server out b4 doin something like this.

revert bk and take time in balancing the server out
 

Shrimp2390

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Any1 tell me wht the votes are at plz? Am on mobile n it dusnt show.
And i vote change bk to much change and agree with those tht votes change bk
 

Robtock

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revert backs winning 36 to 16 currently

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revert backs winning 36 to 16 currently
 

deano13

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revert backs winning 36 to 16 currently

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revert backs winning 36 to 16 currently


We'll it will win lol, the hole population is mostly wiz becoz every1 rolled a wiz coz they were so OP lol
 

Robtock

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seems to be the answer to everything doesn't it lol, OP!

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seems to be the answer to everything doesn't it lol, OP!
 

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We'll it will win lol, the hole population is mostly wiz becoz every1 rolled a wiz coz they were so OP lol

Everyone seems to completely forget about Taos in regards to this thread, Yes it will affect Wizards and PvP but they will still be able to level.

Taos on the other hand have been shafted beyond belief.

Far too much balancing being done based purely on PvP.
 

Kamikaze

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good luck guys im out, absolute joke to even pvp a warrior now, have to either choose to shield or attack and get smashed. Was good while it lasted
 

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I must have missed this whole "tanking wars" nonsense, that's an issue with TDB not working and sun pots being autopot enabled not Wizards being OP.

Also the large number of Fivestring and Dark armour helps boost a Wizards HP.

For both Wizards and Taos the changes added in send Wizard and Taos back to Euro style play (Dull as ****)
 

FUTURA

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BTW this poll is completely biased...the majority of players are taos and wizzes so naturally "the community" is going to want to return it. But the fact is PVPing them with a warrior before was basically pointless. They didnt need to run.

Surely theres a middle ground? Somewhere not so lightning fast in terms of casting speed, but not as slow as people claim?

Either way, this poll is bullshit.....if you had made a poll last week about improving warrs TDB then the vote would have been no...again because there is a majority of wizzes and taos...the logic is fundamentally flawed.
 

Neecha

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This poll is a bit unfair as some of us cant vote at all, i get *You may not vote on this poll*
 

ViperNight

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You really didn't even have to make this pole; you and your server team were probably aware of the outcome of this poll anyway. Do the math and ratios wizards:taos:warriors. There are more wizards on this server like most servers so the answer to your poll is pretty much obvious.

My point is if warriors for QQing about something and you made a poll it is obvious the decision in favor of the warrior would have the less votes due to the class ratio.

To keep majority happy you will need to find a middle ground on casting which will be difficult as so many are used to pre-update casting speeds which means even I could play a wizard and be medi-ocre as it does not require much skill at all.

Anyway great server; people should be greatful as your are a VERY active server team. Non profit from what I can see because of no in game purchases like potcash etc...yet you still give us a good server; 2 new maps last update. I am sure you will sort this out and all will be well.
 

stephens_l

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This game makes me laugh lol, since when is one hitting a char acceptable. Especially one much higher than you.. Where is the skill in that. Its just so you can say things like... "sit down" or "you got owned"... lol. And as for damage hitting 300 with fs on one mob and constant 150-200 ish? with tdb ................................. you name one wizard spell that can dish out or deal that amount of damage constantly ... Oh yeah.. FF but o no wait... you cried constantly until its speed was nerfed so we have a big cooldown... but you dont on youre tdb and fs..? that do the same if not more than ff damage..? when you are supposed to be the TANK class and wizards the DAMAGE DEALERS.. lool so funny.

Anyway, im sure FD does a steady 60-100... depending on MC.. woop! I guess we shut be quiet and be happy with that before they cry and get that nerfed too.

Im pretty sure warriors in most other games are TANKS, i.e they have lots of hp so they are used as front line defence while the damage dealers.. WIZARDS are at the back.... lol.

Oh no not in mir tho, the warriors in mir want massive HP/DEF and OFFENSIVE DAMAGE! If not they cry blue murder that they are UP and everyone else OP.

So while youve been on youre crusade to have wizards (the supposed damage dealers) damage nerfed youve managed to have youre damage output increased making you the toughest TANKS ive ever seen in a game.

40+ wars will have over 1k HP and there is no way a wizard can do that amount of damage to kill them in a pvp (not to mention when you add a mob filled environment that the wizard has to watch their hp with as their defence is so **** and clone will be agro'd anyway), with clone as it is now and with the current damage of spells wars can just outpot and come in for the 1kill.

You just go on and on.... on here saying a wizard shud run , fw , run ice, hit... blah blah... you are takin the p*ss man... have you seen the damage these spells do...... even with good mc there is no way and equivalent level war will die in a pvp... they will just keep attacking, r/ting waiting for that elusive "one hit" then say.... "OWNED / SIT / GF M8".... and act like they are masters of pvp... lol. If they cant catch the wizard as they have some form of decent speed (like i do ingame) then you are f*ked. Even before all these changes i pvped captain kirk many times in bdd..

I think he got a total of 10 hits on me in a space of 8 fights, he nearly obliterated my HP each time he would touch me but yet my damage absolutely sucked on him.... and he had very little AMC defence..... granted my kit is a bit better nowadays (mc65) but back then is was 55... and i still had NO way to kill him... my Ice at that time was doing around 30-45 per hit and my fc a little higher... you tell me how a wizard can kill someone with over 1k Hp and the ability to clean youre Hp in around one hit. They cant, its daft and its about time it was changed.

*edit... forgot to mention... i was hitting him with FD once WHILE he was killing an IWT and he was able to just laugh and OUTPOT my damage... with an IWT on him hahaha he finished killing it then came after me again... and my MC was 55 at the time.. which i would say is average for a lvl 42 wiz...... so yeah... you wars.. i totally agree... wizards are OP. loool

Before all these changes warriors ha to WORK to get a kill on a high level wiz... Now its just dodge dodge, r,t dodge up close BOOM one hit. Fight over.
You wars are ridiculous with youre complaining, keep banging on about how unfair you wars have it and how everyone else needs to be nerfed to feed you're "i pwn" mentality and you will be playing the server by yourselves lol.
 
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BTW this poll is completely biased...the majority of players are taos and wizzes so naturally "the community" is going to want to return it. But the fact is PVPing them with a warrior before was basically pointless. They didnt need to run.

Surely theres a middle ground? Somewhere not so lightning fast in terms of casting speed, but not as slow as people claim?

Either way, this poll is bullshit.....if you had made a poll last week about improving warrs TDB then the vote would have been no...again because there is a majority of wizzes and taos...the logic is fundamentally flawed.

Middle ground would be nice, Certain wiz spells need to have this Slowed cast speed - AoE being the ones that come to mind (IS, Blizz, MS, FF).

Single target spells though really didn't need touched much (Perhaps a slightly slow to those that deal more damage than others in order to balance out the use of each spell), Lightning Bolt and SFB (Tao main levelling spell) didn't need to be so heavily nerfed.

Vampirism I can understand as it was possible just to spam that and outheal most damage.

Currently I believe spells work on some sort of global cast speed?, would it be possible to recode this to have a cast speed/"CD" for each spell allowing more targeted balance as opposed to a direct Nerf on all casting?
 

Kinneas

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Either way, this poll is bullshit.....if you had made a poll last week about improving warrs TDB then the vote would have been no...again because there is a majority of wizzes and taos...the logic is fundamentally flawed.

That's utter rubbish. I don't play a warrior as my main but I was/am quite happy to see TDB get fixed.
 

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That's utter rubbish. I don't play a warrior as my main but I was/am quite happy to see TDB get fixed.

Think I already said something similar (in regards to TDB) - Everyone was aware that TDB was broken and I have no doubt had a poll been made regarding it needing fixed the majority of the population would have agreed.
 

FUTURA

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That's utter rubbish. I don't play a warrior as my main but I was/am quite happy to see TDB get fixed.

It was brought up to the expected standard, and wiz/tao was reduced to the expected standard. If the reduction is too great then level it out a bit but the casting speed pre-update was ridiculous.

And naturally some wiz/tao would vote for TDB being adjusted; it doesnt change the fact that there is simply no way a wiz/tao would vote against on this poll, and they outnumber warriors (a) by definition being 2 classes v 1, and (b) because having been overpowered there is a clear majority.

That point still stands regardless of how anyone "may" have voted on a 'fix TDB or not' poll. Like I said previously, its illogical and fundamentally flawed.