Check list for nxt Patch

[Jicaa]

Based on what? accessories? Maybe, But then they've always been closer, if you look at totals, and weapons.
DSlayer = 40DC
DStaff = 10MC
SoWG = 50DC
BoS = 13MC
That's way less than half.

But sure as a total I'd go with about half of what DC is for a warr. Though that is only talking about top end.



ProField is % based yes but I'm sure rage is a fixed amount.

Your basing your stats on just weapons, what about rings/necks where the stat is only 1 less than the dc equivalent.

Lets say a basic level 40 kit including 40 weapons and no base stats.

DSS, P.Rings, K.Bracers, G.Bead - DC 11-61

DS, V.Rings, D.Bracers, D.Bells - MC 2-33

The majority of people don't care for Low end stats, luck seems easier to come by on here. From this it would look like we are both wrong. 8-8 against 21-21 is too low, 12-12 against 21-21 is too high. How does 8-12 sound to you? :P

Edit: Only just noticed you said about accessories, sorry >.<

 

[Razarus]

The issue is that MB was released on a server that had higher level chars, so "official" does work if everyone is level 60.
Rage giving a %based increase gains in power as you level and get higher level items, MB is static.
Problem being this is a mid rate server so people will not reach level 60 the same time that MB is on everyother wiz.
MB should have been a level 50/55/60 spell as the numbers it gives are much much higher than level 48 stats for equivalent players.

My opinion anyway. Plus the fact that aoe is unsvoidable, if MR worked you COULD kit against this OP stat (for its level) currently you cannot.
Yes wiz are questionable pre 48 but at 48+ they should not jump from questionable to incredibly OP.
Its a very poor design and unfortunately i feel its too late to fix without upsetting too many people.
Increasing the potency of AMC is an easy option that would fix this.
Currently you need so very very much amc to notice any drop in damage recieved that your killing power takes a huge nerf, so much so that you end up tsking twice as long to kill thus taking twice the damage thus negating amc altogether.

Double all amc (stats, runes,gems) and this becomes an indirect nerf to wiz. They maintain pve damage while not being OP to pvp.

 

[Mystickiller]

Been playing a wiz that has about 22-100mc with mb, sin with 100dc. More people run from the sin than the wiz. Once mb drops your semi useless same with sin having swift feet in a big fight. Its fine as is, wars get a 15% buff, most of these skills were based off official witch the avg lvl is 80-90 so these aren't so game breaking. At avg lvl 60 no one will notice mb

 

[Razarus]

Agreed, but without content avg level wont reach 60.
Its all good saying content is coming but MB has been OP and noticable for 4months, how many more months and potential players leaving will it take.

 

[Kalamonde]

i saw magic booster being OP on the last server and that was well over a year ago... just saying!

its never too late to change anything, just needs the dev team to have some balls! longer it get ignored worse it gets, happened with the first TU nerf, the fastest leveling class moaning about having to level slower but still being the fast class to level.... they got over it

also would have helped if the team didnt take a "well do something when people moan" stance when it comes to changing somthing

long as changes come after monk patch i aint too fussed, doubt anything would happen anyway.... peeps are still playing and server population is stable so why listen to us?

would say this is a nice "what would you want on the next patch" list though

/pan

 

[Muh]

They are changing mp consumption, it's been stated, why are people still pushing :l

 

[Kalamonde]

if thats true id suggest delaying that addittion and give actual thought on the matter, upping the MP usage on a skill will not do anything to the overpowered numbers it gives.... make me wonder why the devs would think that will do anything to stop somthing being over powered?

a pathetic thoughtless idea whoever came up with that! making a skill use more mp dont balance it, just makes people use more pots

people are still pointing out the flaw in magic booster but still no evidence to show its not over powered by those saying its not :P

/Pan

 

[Muh]

if thats true id suggest delaying that addittion and give actual thought on the matter, upping the MP usage on a skill will not do anything to the overpowered numbers it gives.... make me wonder why the devs would think that will do anything to stop somthing being over powered?

a pathetic thoughtless idea whoever came up with that! making a skill use more mp dont balance it, just makes people use more pots

people are still pointing out the flaw in magic booster but still no evidence to show its not over powered by those saying its not :P

/Pan

Out of interest what level are you?

 

[ILovePie:D]

My wiz has MB and I still say its OP.

 

[Slipmatt]

The amount of wizzies here trying to dispute that MB is not OP is hilarious! **** quick to defend your class, its blatantly obvious how stupidly strong this spell is, take FF for example we all know its strong but why on earth should a wiz with MB be able to hit 300+ with it, this is what i was hit with the other day. So essentially wizzies can spam Met and Blizz one afafter another then jump straight to FF and pretty much down anyone. With mirroring out its almost an impossibility for a warr to even get close before theyre one shotted by Meteor, or close to. But this isnt just about warrs either, same goes to tao, sin and archer, instant one hits on the lot of them!

 

[Razarus]

Amen and ali ali ahhhcchhhhmhed n all that shlt.

 

[NorthStar]

Lol @ pan and crew trying to say wiz op cos they cba to put in the effort to lvl there chars/get some skills.

A wiz without mb could not kill any1
.. fact.

Wars of same kit/lvl hit up to 400+ in one hit?! 48 wiz has 256 hp. Why is it a wars god given right to walk up to a wiz and one hit them...?

 

[Rollcage]

The amount of wizzies here trying to dispute that MB is not OP is hilarious! **** quick to defend your class, its blatantly obvious how stupidly strong this spell is, take FF for example we all know its strong but why on earth should a wiz with MB be able to hit 300+ with it, this is what i was hit with the other day. So essentially wizzies can spam Met and Blizz one afafter another then jump straight to FF and pretty much down anyone. With mirroring out its almost an impossibility for a warr to even get close before theyre one shotted by Meteor, or close to. But this isnt just about warrs either, same goes to tao, sin and archer, instant one hits on the lot of them!

really? its ok for warrs to hit for 300+ damage with thier staple skill using rage (through magic shield, so even harder on other ppl), thats not op..
its ok for sins to take 500 hp in 1 swing, teleport anywhere on screen and run without flinch affecting them nearly as much, thats not OP
its ok for archers to be able to shoot fast enough to stun lock mobs solo and do 250 damage per arrow and 600-700 with ab (admittedly it has a cooldown), thats not op
god damn, u gave a wiz an m buff that makes them useful in sitations now? **** me thats OP

Pan, MB wasnt on ace.
your asking for reasons why MB isnt op, but no ones giving u a reply so u must be right? this argument has been goin on for months, no ones answering u cos its all been said. as for u being "unbiased" and "the best player ever" dont be an ass..ur 100% biased, u have no spells on ur wiz at all to even make these kind of comments, but its ok to ignore the glaring OPness of ur own chosen class this time round (warrior).

In short, shut up pan.

 

[ILovePie:D]

Put Benes in so that they show up in the group "pick up" file.

 

[NorthStar]

yer i notice the wizzies calling the peeps idiots for asking nerf, i said it on the test server acem2 it was OP

self buffing skill should not give that much increase with spells that hurt hard enough without magic booster giving them a boost, none give reasons to explain why its not over powered and ive pointed out a number of flaws in the numbers it gives along with other peeps, the "its ass offical" excuse with wearing thin when there is other skills that were made unlike official.

i said 8-8 should be the max because its a good increase and seems about right.... not to OP and not too rubbish, you can still get 24 extra mc with a tao buff and a magic drug maybe? :P

i also think TU needs looking at if people are using it to level, did the nerf to that spell not come from acem2?

i think after the monk patch there needs to be abit of a focus on balancing some skills

maybe a beta test for a new balance patch! im happy to come help and cry and moan! and give decent suggestions that will make the power blind cry

and muh.... if 8-8 is so bad please give reasons to defend the 24-24 not mocking with no reasons....or be honest and you have no clue

/Pan

No1 cares what you say. You and nynx are account scammers and theifs and need to go back to ur hole.

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Turn undead has been nerfed compared to euro, when you were +10 lvl on a mob it would tu near every hit. That's not the case here...

 

[Razarus]

Lol @ pan and crew trying to say wiz op cos they cba to put in the effort to lvl there chars/get some skills.

A wiz without mb could not kill any1
.. fact.

Wars of same kit/lvl hit up to 400+ in one hit?! 48 wiz has 256 hp. Why is it a wars god given right to walk up to a wiz and one hit them...?

This is not about war vs wiz....

Tao, Archer, Sin cant walk up to a wiz(with shield up) and 1 hit them, in fact they probably get killed for getting too close... to a ranged class.....

 

[Rollcage]

Archers absolutely can walk up to a wiz and 1 hit them even through shield
Sins absolutely can walk up to a wiz and 1 hit them without shield or 2 hit them with shield

 

[reecew]

no they can not stop talking wet...

i had 130+ dc on Reno level 2 AB couldn't 1 hit wizz with bubble.

KingTony had 130+ dc level 3 AB couldn't 1 hit wizz with bubble

also i bet any other archer could post on here telling you the same... infact it wouldn't even need to be a archer to tell you this.

only good spell archer have vs wiz is PS level 42 or 43 spell not sure on the level.


also for a assassin to be aloud to walk up to a Wiz with no shield the wiz has to be something along the lines of winters.
if this has happened to you i suggest you reroll to one of the classes your crying about and see how valid your points actually are.

they couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Rollcage]

...ive been 1 hit by acher through shield u mug, shut up.

 

[reecew]

suggest you keep your hp full and stop crying about other classes when wiz are completely broken...

countless threads to confirm....

also another point is (if archer are so OP and other things why are the Mods/Gms shown archers some love? and making them better?)

your just moaning cause you died... for someone who plays a wiz you sure as hell cry.

0 skill playing a class who can walk round spamming FF and 1 hitting anything in there way.



out of interest whats you wizards name?