Check what this guy did.

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You had to break out the sarcastic smilie...

Opeth said:
Oh, and i think genmay, a forum mainly full of hardware wizards from the legendary [H] forums

Now it's time for me to give you some links.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=legendary

How in the hell is HardOCP legendary? XS is legenadary, HardOCP is just another review site with slightly skewed articles and a forum full of egotistical mods worse than me.

Biohazard said:
If you didn't already know, PC stands for PERSONAL Computer. So it is for PERSONAL USE. Pwnt.

I always take advantage of a chance to noobify you, which takes up a lot of my day...

PowerPC is cpu architecture.

Opeth said:
duuuurrrrrr :tard:
Your agreeing with his statement only show's your total lack of knowledge.
 

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I can't be bothered reading whole thread but for you idiots who said OMG how can it be faster then 3ghz omg omg omg.. well think about it for a second.. 3ghz has to run the whole computer.. when his is just doing 1 task.. 1 simple task. Ta da. If I remember correctly the fastest was like 4+ and it had to be cooled by special machines when ran because it would get so hot.
 

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NickAKAVexus said:
I can't be bothered reading whole thread but for you idiots who said OMG how can it be faster then 3ghz omg omg omg.. well think about it for a second.. 3ghz has to run the whole computer.. when his is just doing 1 task.. 1 simple task. Ta da. If I remember correctly the fastest was like 4+ and it had to be cooled by special machines when ran because it would get so hot.


He said hit was 5X as powerful as a 3GHZ p4. And don't get urbanfox started about overclocking and special cooling. His stupid phase change unit cools his PC to a negative tempation, but it's louder then ***.
 

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Biohazard said:
negative tempation


temptation?

NickAKAVexus said:
I can't be bothered reading whole thread but for you idiots who said OMG how can it be faster then 3ghz omg omg omg.. well think about it for a second.. 3ghz has to run the whole computer.. when his is just doing 1 task.. 1 simple task. Ta da. If I remember correctly the fastest was like 4+ and it had to be cooled by special machines when ran because it would get so hot.
What do you mean 3GHZ has to run the whole computer? You mean different parts of an operating system? It wouldn't make that much of a difference.

Also, when he says 5x, he doesn't specify. We have no idea what it's strongpoint is or what it's meant to do.

As for fasted, for Intel P4 I believe it's 7.3GHZ, 4.3-4GHZ for P-M, and 4GHZ for AMD64.
 
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urbanfox said:
You had to break out the sarcastic smilie...



Now it's time for me to give you some links.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=legendary

How in the hell is HardOCP legendary? XS is legenadary, HardOCP is just another review site with slightly skewed articles and a forum full of egotistical mods worse than me.



I always take advantage of a chance to noobify you, which takes up a lot of my day...

PowerPC is cpu architecture.


Your agreeing with his statement only show's your total lack of knowledge.

i asnt a agreeing, i was doing an impression of the drivvel he was spouting
 

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btw urban seems to be the only one who understands that the thing was made to do ONE GODDAMN JOB. that is why it can be so powerful.
 

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No. I was saying that Bio seems to think that power=watts. Which, as you have said, my fair lady, is incorrect.

Apart from YOU, no one on this thread has ever said "Power = Watts".

Bio and everyone else has said "Watts = Power" which is correct.

You are arguing for something that no one is defending, your fighting a one way battle because you can't be bothered to read what people are saying.

Got it yet?

:doggy!:
 
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I didn't read the whole thread, so this rant is probably out of place.

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Wow. Some of you prooved the literacy REALLY IS at an all-time low.

That motherboard is a PROTOTYPE. As in, LIMITED RUN. NOT YET RELEASED.

Why black out the company name? Industrial espionage ring a bell? Oh, i know, let's tell the world what Company X's next product is, so everyone else can pre-empt it. Might get myself out of a job, too.

As for the performance, that's VERY MUCH A REALITY. Tried encoding media with your Pentium 4 recently? Not exactly light-speed. This guy is in effect building a CELL with only 1 SPE.

Need I remind you of the real-time HD-Videos demos using the CELL? I thought not.

Aight. I'mma stop now. Might laugh off the chair again.....
 
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urbanfox said:
What do you mean 3GHZ has to run the whole computer? You mean different parts of an operating system? It wouldn't make that much of a difference.

Just for some technical knowledge, to clear up Nick's statement.

The P4 you find in a home PC will always have a long instruction queue. OS Calls, IO calls, AV, Firewall, your stupidity causing errors, etc.

Add this to the Pentium 4's long pipeline and instruction replay, and you find that the Pentium 4 is put at a great disadvantage, compared to these highly-specialised chips.

More information on the Prescott 'Replay' system.

So, the Pentium 4 winds up with instruction latency in the tens of clocks, as opposed to the logical 9, (2 for level 1 cache calls, 7 for level 2 cache calls).

So, the Pentium 4 requires a much higher clock to compensate for this latency. (Think of the AMD64 3200's clock, compared to the P4 3.2GHZ's).

The PPC chip here will be in effect a lot like an AMD64. Except, instead of having a LONG instruction queue to deal with. It'll have a VERY small one. End result? More groups of instructions can be completed faster, and the important instructions have less time to wait.

And then, you have the DSP. Highly specialised, designed purely for it's job. 720mhz should be insanely fast, given what it needs to do. This DSP is constantly being fed data, and operating on it faster than it needs to.

End result? You have a highly specialised pair of chips, which don't suffer the architectural problems of the P4, and won't be bogged down with stupid instructions.

That, ladies and gents, is why for this system's operation, this system could be up to 5x as effective as a 3GHZ Pentium 4, which in exreme cases, could have effective speeds of 750mhz. (Assuming the worst-case efficiency matches xbitlab's estimate of 25%).
 

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Love said:
Apart from YOU, no one on this thread has ever said "Power = Watts".

Bio and everyone else has said "Watts = Power" which is correct.

You are arguing for something that no one is defending, your fighting a one way battle because you can't be bothered to read what people are saying.

Got it yet?

:doggy!:

its certainly was what he was suggesting.

and oh look, my dear friends urban and auron have come along and ever so graciously proved you all wrong.
 

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¤]´)÷¤--§îr Äürøñ--¤÷(`[¤ said:
Just for some technical knowledge, to clear up Nick's statement.

The P4 you find in a home PC will always have a long instruction queue. OS Calls, IO calls, AV, Firewall, your stupidity causing errors, etc.

Add this to the Pentium 4's long pipeline and instruction replay, and you find that the Pentium 4 is put at a great disadvantage, compared to these highly-specialised chips.

More information on the Prescott 'Replay' system.

So, the Pentium 4 winds up with instruction latency in the tens of clocks, as opposed to the logical 9, (2 for level 1 cache calls, 7 for level 2 cache calls).

So, the Pentium 4 requires a much higher clock to compensate for this latency. (Think of the AMD64 3200's clock, compared to the P4 3.2GHZ's).

The PPC chip here will be in effect a lot like an AMD64. Except, instead of having a LONG instruction queue to deal with. It'll have a VERY small one. End result? More groups of instructions can be completed faster, and the important instructions have less time to wait.

And then, you have the DSP. Highly specialised, designed purely for it's job. 720mhz should be insanely fast, given what it needs to do. This DSP is constantly being fed data, and operating on it faster than it needs to.

End result? You have a highly specialised pair of chips, which don't suffer the architectural problems of the P4, and won't be bogged down with stupid instructions.

That, ladies and gents, is why for this system's operation, this system could be up to 5x as effective as a 3GHZ Pentium 4, which in exreme cases, could have effective speeds of 750mhz. (Assuming the worst-case efficiency matches xbitlab's estimate of 25%).


Yes I know, but do you think that's what nick meant?

Hence why Netburst is now all the sudden out of focus.
 

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Opeth said:
its certainly was what he was suggesting.

and oh look, my dear friends urban and auron have come along and ever so graciously proved you all wrong.

1) I don't think Auron and Urban believe that Gee made that motherbord.

2) I don't think you have any friends, dumbass.
 

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Biohazard said:
1) I don't think Auron and Urban believe that Gee made that motherbord.

2) I don't think you have any friends, dumbass.

IRRELEVENT. the performance was proved possible, and thus you were proved wrong. whether or not he made it (which is ver likely seeing as it is known that he works as a hardware technician) is a question of trust.
 
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Biohazard said:
1) I don't think Auron and Urban believe that Gee made that motherbord.

2) I don't think you have any friends, dumbass.

Actually, the only one i agree with here is Urban :P

Gee didn't make that motherboard. IF you read the thread, he helped design it. The completed unit appears to be used as a set-top box of some sort, given the design & components he's using.

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Urban, you hit the nail on the head :P

But that still doesn't invalidate his point of the 3GHZ P4, which would have been Netburst-based (Unless he bought the dodgy dual-core pre-production one :P)
 

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¤]´)÷¤--§îr Äürøñ--¤÷(`[¤ said:
Actually, the only one i agree with here is Urban :P

Gee didn't make that motherboard. IF you read the thread, he helped design it. The completed unit appears to be used as a set-top box of some sort, given the design & components he's using.

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Urban, you hit the nail on the head :P

But that still doesn't invalidate his point of the 3GHZ P4, which would have been Netburst-based (Unless he bought the dodgy dual-core pre-production one :P)

does this mean i was right the whole time that:

-the board was made for a single perpose
-gee helped design it
-its very possible to have that performence
-the blacked out parts of the board are gees company?

if so, then sorry bio and kud, but youre jsut gonna have to admit you were wrong :(.