Class Balance
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I haven't 1 hit any1 similar level to me.... Tori black jus ss's away (gd sin) any warr can dash thru blizz while not taking any damage, I've had archers making me look like a knob by decoying around me and smashing me with ab...... There's loads of ways to fight a high wizz
ovs it's not easy and requires gd timing n that but that's jus part of the fun....
I don't stand and toe to toe any warr because it's jus a silly idea, 2 nice tdb's and I'm alrdy using suns
all the people moaning are what lvl 45ish? How about going and fighting a 45wizz?? Pretty sure u wouldn't cry op then....
ovs it's not easy and requires gd timing n that but that's jus part of the fun....
I don't stand and toe to toe any warr because it's jus a silly idea, 2 nice tdb's and I'm alrdy using suns
all the people moaning are what lvl 45ish? How about going and fighting a 45wizz?? Pretty sure u wouldn't cry op then....
If every class was given a skill like FF for leveling then I would agree they spent the time leveling, but to have a spell that helps you level 2x faster than everyone else I can not agree with. Not to mention the fact that they can also 1 shot archers in BDD, no other class can 1 shot for that much exp.
Wizard are OP, regardless of what many people think, they are in fact OP. My main reasoning for starting this post is to point out that a Wizards AoE is hitting for more then an Archers ST when attacking only 1 monster. An AoE spell shouldn't be hitting more than ST in any cases, why would it when it is meant for AoE....
If Flamefield is allowed to hit for 300(based on good kit) on a ST then could you please buff FireShot to hit for atleast 500, TDB to hit for 2 x 200 and SFB to hit for at least 200(I left this lower cause everyone says Taoist is a "Support" class)(all based on good kit), only makes sense that a ST spell hits for more on 1 target than an AoE :RpS_rolleyes:
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Yeah I've said a few times that an AOE doing more singe target damage than a singe target spell/skill is stupid.
The more I think about my idea of reducing AOE damages if its cast on less targets the more its sounds in-genius.
FF 1 target your only doing 20% damage mate because your trying to use AOE for single target damage.
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FF requires you to be beside your targets, meaning you can be killed easier.
Blizz / Met are from ranged.
Blizz / Met are from ranged.
Lol I've seen tdb hit near 200.... And I can almost be 1 shoted by ab without shield........ And that's with some hp on
end game warr and Tao can lvl faster than a wizz in hell cave
Luck7 sin can lvl as fast if not faster.....
fastest lvling for a wizz is to hunt with a Tao.....
end game warr and Tao can lvl faster than a wizz in hell cave
Luck7 sin can lvl as fast if not faster.....
fastest lvling for a wizz is to hunt with a Tao.....
get a clue. when SB is ingame ull be cryin about warrs being OP too, then that new tao spell for lvl 50? and so on.
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Consider it in terms od damage per second, high lvl warriors/sins with the kind of kit ur talkin about can output more than that in the time it takes to cast 1 ff, the only advantage is that its an AOE which is what makes a wiz a wiz
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This.
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Im not sure what kind of warriors you're coming across, but it would have the be a d ring/martial sword warr for me to be able to tank it at lvl 49
Warriors with 80ish dc take more than half of my hp in 1 tdb, and at endgame they all have over 100, so while im losing 250 of my 280 hp in 1 hit ur here saying wiz tank too much? dont be daft.
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Wiz cant tank, stop saying stupid ****, wiz are not an AOE lvling class they are a DAMAGE class.
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Warrs and sins can lvl at almost the same speed as wiz... and taos? they can just tag along with either melee and they golden, so shut up about that already.
FF is the spell that MAKES the wzard class in mir, what ur saying is like saying, half tdb damage, or double slash
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not near 200 mate, over 200 and there a handful of warr ingame that can do this, not just depress
is 3x3 aoe instant cast really being "beside your target" though?
Tbh I don't care if wizzies do insane damage with any spell. They should not be able to guzzle sun pots and tank as much damage as they can, due to shield.
Perhaps sunpots are the real problem here? Personally I think MagicBooster shouldn't be giving base MC as that's what people are moaning about mostly. MB's base MC boost makes fighting an FF wizz a suicidal task.
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Exactly, so if one of these warrs get a lucky tdb, I'll be on the floor even with shield up..... As expected from end game warrs.... Lol
Remind me again what is required to reach an End-Game warrior kit?
DC/Speed/Acc/Slow ideally, is what I'd say is end-game warrior. 4 different types of gems on all of your gear all over. Speed needs to be 5+ DC overall 12+ acc overall 4+ slow overall 4+
Then, yes. That warrior, or No4 (mr money bags) in this instance, will likely 1hit you (did I mention he has luck7?)
What do wizzies need to get?
MC Gems.
They also level 2x faster than any other class, how bout that!
The point I'm trying to make is that you're comparing end-game to end-game when one requires insane amounts of gold and sacrifices of kit to obtain, whilst the other requires little to no effort to obtain.
And the means of outputting that damage?
One requires you to be standing next to the opponent.
The other requires you to be anywhere in a 3x3 radius of another person.
Can't really explain it any simpler. It's not that wizzies are OP. It's that wizzie's require so little effort to be OP and output that damage on a 3x3 scale that's unblockable.
Don't even get me started on PurifiedWaters that give wizzies 30% extra HP (100), last an hour long and are currently 90k a pop!
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I have a clue thank you very much.
Why would I suggest balancing something that is not in the game yet?
Because you cant see if its balanced or not. If SB comes into game and end up being overpowered I will also suggest that gets fixed.
My concern is with the CURRENT balance, giving that the current situation is the only scenario that was have stats and experience from.
Please if you're going to post, at least make it relevant.
"yeah but a level 5000 warrior will 1 shot everyone"
That's what you sound like... shocking.
Love how no one seems to mention how Archer's who were meant to be the biggest single target hitters(I mean 1 hit doing the highest damage) are currently hitting for less than an AoE spell. I am not counting in AB as that has a cool down, but FireShot should be hitting for more than FF. Oh they should also have a shield type effect, not as strong as Wizards, maybe 20-30% reduction.
This is also why ages ago I said make all spells available to everyone, this way it could of been seen earlier that certain spells are way to over tuned.
This is also why ages ago I said make all spells available to everyone, this way it could of been seen earlier that certain spells are way to over tuned.
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Sunpots are the issue. Remove OW from gryong. Reduce sunpot(m) drop rate. I'd even go as far to say remove (m)'s from the game.
As for magic booster adjust/remove the base mc effect and/or increase cooldown / mp consumption of skills.
Well said. Catching and hitting someone for high DPS is very different from 1 hitting with large aoe skills that require no aiming and can't miss or be avoided.
Agreed, also agree with the fact sunpots are too readily available beside the fact you got bots botting OW's in castle GI and selling suns to the shop
HMM FlameField selling a whole page of sun buns in tm, just saying...
If you don't want to take out sun(M) make them not sellable on tm.
IS there a way to make them tradeable only between guildies?
Maybe a guild store account linked to leader name could be implemented. Would be very useful. Most guilds have a noob account for this anyway.
IS there a way to make them tradeable only between guildies?
Maybe a guild store account linked to leader name could be implemented. Would be very useful. Most guilds have a noob account for this anyway.
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Funny how over has around a full page of sun potion budles the evidence is overwhelming do something about it please.